How close are you to boiling point?

mink_man · 16-07-2009 05:47PM

meh!

karlog · 16-07-2009 05:49PM

Lets all go to Japan:)

DTrotter · 16-07-2009 05:52PM

The top three people in charge got into politics based on their family name, that's where the problem lies in Ireland. People don't vote based on qualification, everthings a big joke.

445279.ie · 16-07-2009 05:55PM

DTrotter wrote: »

The top three people in charge got into politics based on their family name, that's where the problem lies in Ireland. People don't vote based on qualification, everthings a big joke.

True, we're in a country of tribal politics. People vote for parties their parents vote for and when politicians retire/die their children run for election and get in on their name

Dan Dare · 16-07-2009 05:56PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It'll take em a long time to round him and the other two million snipers up.

Especially if they close 400 Garda Stations. They (the Gardai) should get out of their squad cars (in the towns and cities) and back on the beat.

Regarding the OP, yes, I listen to the headlines and turn off, this country is a disaster area, the ideals of 1916 and all that have been utterly betrayed by FF and the gombeens and peasants who have voted for them.

seanwhite20 · 16-07-2009 06:16PM

The problem really is that who can you vote for in this country? the two major political parties i.e Fianna Fail and Fine Gael are right wing conservatives. Labour is not nearly a big enough party to win a majority and even with other smaller left wing parties they still couldn't form a coalition. Which means you either vote for dumb or dumber in the form of Fianna Fail and Fine Gael. Now it may be remarkable to some people that this country has gone down the jax considering we were the wealthiest country per capita in Europe, pre-meltdown, but i think that fianna fail were bound to leave the country in bits, they always do. just look at what Charlie Haughey did! he robbed the country blind when our economy was on its knees and nobody did a thing about it. My generation are now going to do exactly the same thing, we'll put up with the huge tax burden now forced upon us as well as the massive unemployment and let the crooked bankers and corrupt politicians walk free.
We're nowhere near boiling point OP, because Irish people are simply far too tolerant.......

ejmaztec · 16-07-2009 06:19PM

Dan Dare wrote: »

Especially if they close 400 Garda Stations. They (the Gardai) should get out of their squad cars (in the towns and cities) and back on the beat.

Regarding the OP, yes, I listen to the headlines and turn off, this country is a disaster area, the ideals of 1916 and all that have been utterly betrayed by FF and the gombeens and peasants who have voted for them.

Pity to close them down after all of the billions that it cost to re-furbish most of them in recent years. More cash down the crapper. I suppose they could turn them into B&Bs.

Reg'stoy · 16-07-2009 06:26PM

Just reached boiling point, was skimming thru the board snip report on the dept of finance web site and guess what, guards got an extra 9 million euro last year for going on holidays :eek:.
They and I quote got "premium payments (9.07 million euro in 2008) to members who are on leave (holidays) etc (I would imagine been sick is included here) and would be ordinarily be entitled to claim unsocial hours allowance if they were not on leave (holidays, sick etc)"
So they head off to the sun and get extra money on top of their weeks wages.
How can they possibily justify that.

RonMexico · 16-07-2009 06:32PM

There isn't a single goddamn thing about this country that makes me want to stay here.

First chance I get I am out of here for good and I won't be back.

I lived abroad before and I missed nothing.

Weather = crap

Cost of living = crap

Governemnt = crap

Entertainment = crap

Wimminz = crap

engrish? · 16-07-2009 06:33PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I have friends that will turn off the news or bin the paper in disgust at the state of this country, roads and hospitals or talk of bankers and politicians because it just makes them to angry. Everyones pissed, lots of people are out of work thanks to the narrow mindedness of the people in charge of this country and our money. I've heard many people say if this was any other country there'd be riots in the streets and calls for blood but we've stayed the course even though some high ups rub our noses in the dirt by making everyone take pay cuts bar them selfs.

Just how close are you to giving up on this country? What else would it take for the Irish to turn nasty and oust the government? Would it ever happen in this country?

I reckon we'll toe the line indefinitely if the worst does happen most will just abandon this country and move on, it's tradition after all. I've pretty much given up on this current regime I have no faith in the government or the people to be honest.

I'm just pissed off listening to people whinge all the time.

Whosbetter? · 16-07-2009 07:04PM

KerranJast wrote: »

I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are, so I'm grand.

I'm a normally a sane,calm, responsible sort of bloke.

But the line 'Chillax Dad'. Aaaaargh!!!!!!!!!

Wertz · 16-07-2009 07:20PM

I wander between being mad as all hell, ready to take a barret lite 50 and sit up the top of Kildare st, to just not giving a monkey's, to actually cackling at some of the stuff on the news...but I rarely switch it off, unless it's an actual FF minister being interviewed.
I find a great antidote to our own mess is watching the BBC rollling news and CNN too...those guys are in sh*t too...misery loves company...

DublinWriter · 16-07-2009 07:26PM

Myself and the missus have been seriously reconsidering relocating to Belfast recently.

She recently had to spend time with a relative (my side of the family) in Beaumont hospital A&E, she's English and described scene like something from the third world.

16-07-2009 07:28PM

netwhizkid wrote: »

I have come to the point that I am prepared to join any revolution or war against FF and would glady put my life on the line to remove the cancer than is Fianna Fail from Irish society for once and for all.

With the amount of new threads up in the military section of boards about lads joining the British army maybe a load of us should consider doing a Tom Barry and gettin war experience and then coming back home and giving them hell :pac:

now how do i thank my own post!

dotsman · 16-07-2009 08:40PM

seanwhite20 wrote: »

The problem really is that who can you vote for in this country? the two major political parties i.e Fianna Fail and Fine Gael are right wing conservatives. Labour is not nearly a big enough party to win a majority and even with other smaller left wing parties they still couldn't form a coalition. Which means you either vote for dumb or dumber in the form of Fianna Fail and Fine Gael. Now it may be remarkable to some people that this country has gone down the jax considering we were the wealthiest country per capita in Europe, pre-meltdown, but i think that fianna fail were bound to leave the country in bits, they always do. just look at what Charlie Haughey did! he robbed the country blind when our economy was on its knees and nobody did a thing about it. My generation are now going to do exactly the same thing, we'll put up with the huge tax burden now forced upon us as well as the massive unemployment and let the crooked bankers and corrupt politicians walk free.
We're nowhere near boiling point OP, because Irish people are simply far too tolerant.......

Umm, since when did Fianna fail become a "right-wing" party? It's been all their left-wing bull$hit for the past 12 years that has gotten us to where we are today. And I wouldn't really regard Fine Gael as "right-wing". They're pretty much in the center. There's no political party in this country with the balls to be right-wing.

Redpunto · 16-07-2009 08:41PM

I can't listen to the news anymore - I have to turn it off or I get all stressed out - more than I normally am anyhows

galwayrush · 16-07-2009 08:43PM

I don't care anymore, gone way past boiling point a long time ago.

jumpguy · 16-07-2009 08:46PM

Depends, the more I talk about it the more annoyed I get tbh.

TanG411 · 16-07-2009 08:46PM

i've given up in this country.

It's just a shame I'm 17. it's difficult to move :pac:

Overheal · 16-07-2009 08:50PM

Larkin501 wrote: »

i've given up in this country.

It's just a shame I'm 17. it's difficult to move :pac:

What with the mortage and 3 kids you have :rolleyes:

well, 3 kids, anyway.

DTrotter · 16-07-2009 09:16PM

dotsman wrote: »

Umm, since when did Fianna fail become a "right-wing" party? It's been all their left-wing bull$hit for the past 12 years that has gotten us to where we are today. And I wouldn't really regard Fine Gael as "right-wing". They're pretty much in the center. There's no political party in this country with the balls to be right-wing.

Those bloody socialist property developers.

bonzos · 16-07-2009 10:19PM

People had a chance to sort this out on the 5th of june . anyone who voted FF has no right ot complain on the state of the country,roads,unemployment,health etc..YOU VOTED FOR THIS:mad:these clowns are laughing at you!

dotsman · 16-07-2009 10:32PM

DTrotter wrote: »

Those bloody socialist property developers.

...whose taxes, and the taxes generated from the trade of property fueled the left-wing spending policies of the Fianna Fail government, leaving us with a massively inflated public sector (which despite all the money, is still very under-productive), a ridiculously high minimum wage, a huge welfare class, and the rampant inflation associated with this.

It's not the fact that a house/apartment is not worth as much now as it was a couple of years ago that's causing all this $hit. It's the fact that our entire economy was dependent on the taxes/employment associated with this (now collapsed) sector.

sells · 16-07-2009 10:54PM

go to the RSA ad thread...that pisses me off.......

Biggins · 16-07-2009 10:56PM

Reached boiling point a long time ago. I could rant but I won't.
It would be wasted on the too complacent dumb sheep of this country anyway.

DTrotter · 16-07-2009 10:59PM

dotsman wrote: »

...
It's not the fact that a house/apartment is not worth as much now as it was a couple of years ago that's causing all this $hit. It's the fact that our entire economy was dependent on the taxes/employment associated with this (now collapsed) sector.

Which was never sustainable in the first place.

Acacia · 16-07-2009 11:24PM

I just don't watch the news anymore. It depresses me.

I'm getting my relevant college degrees and fcuking right off out of here, hopefully. Wish I could do it sooner, tbh. I was just looking at all the Spanish students here today and thinking "Why the fcuk are you wasting your youth visiting this sh1tehole?" I know the recession's as bad everywhere else, but at least I won't be in Ireland. Always a plus. And the fcukin' cheek of the government bringing in student loans to be paid back ''when the graduates get jobs''. There's not a job to be had in the country. What a bunch of thicks.

Btw, did anyone else think the name ''An Bord Snip Nua'' was a joke name? Is it actually called that or what?

/rant over.

This is why I don' watch the news- it angries up the blood.

Biggins · 16-07-2009 11:35PM

It all reminds me of a very famous poem by Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not protest;
I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.

When the elderly had to take to the streets, they were on their own ...and the public looked on.
When the parents of children medically affected (Crumlin, etc) by cuts take to the streets, they are generally on their own ...and the public looks on,
When the chemists protest, they are on their own ...and the public looks on.
When the schools are more jammed per room and teachers numbers are cut ...and the public looks on.
When the REAL poorest of the poor gets their basic money cut, they try to protest ...and the public looks on.
When the student raise their voices and cry out at the increased charges for a basic education ...and the public looks on.
(Some quick simple examples about how we are being picked off one by one...)

Well guess what public!
If ye don't get up off your frigging arses, SPEAK UP and very frackin' soon ...YOUR NEXT!!!

DON'T SAY YE WEREN'T WARNED OR THE SIGNS WASN'T THERE.

seanwhite20 · 17-07-2009 12:50AM

dotsman wrote: »

Umm, since when did Fianna fail become a "right-wing" party? It's been all their left-wing bull$hit for the past 12 years that has gotten us to where we are today. And I wouldn't really regard Fine Gael as "right-wing". They're pretty much in the center. There's no political party in this country with the balls to be right-wing.

I suppose it depends on your perception of what a right wing party is dotsman. Im not saying they are far right exrtremists like bnp in England or anything, just conservative and out for the better off in our society. Take the proposed privatisation of hospitals for example or the new blasphemy act, would you consider these to be things a left wing party would do? i think not. And i dont see how FG could be considered a central party they are basically FF's shadow, they have very similar policies (although i know they would go into coalition with LAB, but thats just because they'd do anything for power!). I think to be classed as left is not about throwing money at everything as was done by FF under Bertie for 10 yrs, its about spreading wealth to create equality. I dont think FF or FG could ever claim to have have ever done that! a proposed cut of 5% in social welfare as well as cuts in education, health and closing half our garda stations,um yeah thats real liberal or as you put it so elequently "left wing bull$hit"????

Biggins · 17-07-2009 12:50AM

bonzos wrote: »

People had a chance to sort this out on the 5th of june . anyone who voted FF has no right ot complain on the state of the country,roads,unemployment,health etc..YOU VOTED FOR THIS:mad:these clowns are laughing at you!

No one will be laughing if the following cuts comes in...

H. Primary (health) care €577.0m
I. Acute hospitals, including cancer care €96.0m
J. Disability and mental health €50.0m
K. Care of older people €74.0m

Page 128 - Table 11.3 Health - Total measures identified by Programme

Seriously! Just shoot us all in the head now Cowen and get it over with.

Report in full.
Part 1: http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0716/Volume%201.pdf
Part 2: http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0716/Volume%202%20FINAL.pdf

How close are you to boiling point?

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