Should junkies receive Social Welfare

mirwillbeback · 15-07-2009 04:32PM #1

I'm working in City Centre, in a job I hate to pay my way in life.

Today I couldn't get out of Tara St without walking through a crowd of zombies, and their children so decided to take the long way around.

I walked up town on lunch, and there are little packs of them on the Boardwalk, drinking their Bavaria and any other cheap beer topping up their tans.

Each of them would I imagine be getting 204 euro a week for being " available for work " or some medical exemption.

I f8cking hate them, how are their kids not taken into care ? Seen one give a three year old a smack across the hand one day that would have hurt an adult, and I regret ever since not going across and kicking the absolute sh!te outta him.

. :mad:

thelordofcheese · 15-07-2009 04:34PM

"Should junkies receive Social Welfare"

Yes.

next question.

genericguy · 15-07-2009 04:34PM

i think, honestly, that the gardai should take all the heroin and coke they have seized, poison it, and send it back out onto the streets.

junkie problem solved.

jumpguy · 15-07-2009 04:35PM

I think we should have a system where you recieve social welfare for 6 months, then get your case examined. If one is making a decent effort to find a job or get educated, they can hold on for another 3 months and get examined every 3 months. If we had something like that, it'd be impossible for people to claim abroad.

Wurly · 15-07-2009 04:35PM

genericguy wrote: »

i think, honestly, that the gardai should take all the heroin and coke they have seized, poison it, and send it back out onto the streets.

junkie problem solved.

Just - wow!

partyatmygaff · 15-07-2009 04:36PM

A junkie incineration plant should be in order....

If it bothers you so much, give "The_Citizen" a PM, he'll sort them out and send them where they belong.

WindSock · 15-07-2009 04:36PM

genericguy wrote: »

i think, honestly, that the gardai should take all the heroin and coke they have seized, poison it, and send it back out onto the streets.

junkie problem solved.

Oh but not the Coke. Coke is a middle class drug and those who die while taking it are angels up in heaven.

nibtrix · 15-07-2009 04:37PM

No. I think anyone on the dole should be made to work for it; road sweeping, cleaning etc.

I'm on the dole btw, after years of working and paying tax. I'm looking for a job everyday but I still think after a couple of months I should have to do something for my money!

WindSock · 15-07-2009 04:37PM

nibtrix wrote: »

No. I think anyone on the dole should be made to work for it; road sweeping, cleaning etc.

I'm on the dole btw, after years of working and paying tax. I'm looking for a job everyday but I still think after a couple of months I should have to do something for my money!

Then volunteer!

Amberjack · 15-07-2009 04:37PM

When I worked in the City Centre, I used to walk past them day in and day out, openly dealing outside Tara St Station with kids in buggies and no-one ever seemed to do anything about it. You really wonder what sort of a life those children will have if that is the environment they grow up in.

nibtrix · 15-07-2009 04:39PM

WindSock wrote: »

Then volunteer!

Already do! Ta

shenanigans1982 · 15-07-2009 04:40PM

Of course they should, it's not like they are to blame for being junkies...hard knock life and all that.

Armin_Tamzarian · 15-07-2009 04:42PM

The irony is that a junky will get looked after much better than a poor misfortunate who has been working hard and has ended up on the dole.

The junky will get Medical Allowance as opposed to unemployment assistance.
This means that they don't have to go through the hassles of proving they're looking for work etc.

They'll get free travel for themselves and a friend on trains, buses, etc.

They'll also get weekly allowances of free prescription drugs such as valium, etc, which they usually sell on the street to net themselves anything up to €200 extra a week.

They'll also get a host of other benefits that aren't available to the legitimately unemployed.

Not to worry, at least we can rest assured that all the money they receive will be well spent.

Maddison · 15-07-2009 04:45PM

This is a tough one to call, on one hand I dont believe theat they should receive any benefits but on the other hand there are those addicts that have children to feed and also in all fairness I cannot stand junkies but they werent always addicts. I think that they should be sent to rehab which would be paid from their SW. At least this way they are given the help that is needed and Its not at the taxpayers expense.

az2wp0sye65487 · 15-07-2009 04:45PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

"Should junkies receive Social Welfare"

Yes.

next question.

My next question would be: Why?

NilByMouth · 15-07-2009 04:49PM

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

The irnoy is that a junkey will get looked after much better than a poor misfortunate who has been working hard and has ended up on the dole.

The junkey will get Medical Allowance as opposed to unemployment assistance.
This means that they don't have to go through the hassles of proving they're looking for work etc.

They'll get free travel for themselves and a friend on trains, buses, etc.

They'll also get weekly allowances of free prescription drugs such as valium, etc, which they usually sell on the street to net themselves anything up to €200 extra a week.

They'll also get a host of other benefits that aren't available to the legitamately unemployed.

Not to worry, at least we can rest assured that all the money they receive will be well spent.

you serious?must get myself strung out.Do you know if you can keep your rent allowance?

ScumLord · 15-07-2009 04:49PM

No way, they should be made steal their drug money like a proper scumbag.

Quint · 15-07-2009 04:53PM

It's not their fault they became junkies, they have no facilities in their area.

Gone Drinking · 15-07-2009 04:54PM

Amberjack wrote: »

You really wonder what sort of a life those children will have if that is the environment they grow up in.

That's easy.. they turn into the townies that go around mugging people.

genericguy · 15-07-2009 04:54PM

Mckenna Flaky Self-sufficient wrote: »

My next question would be: Why?

I'm going to take a stab at this from the lefty point of view -

"because they had no facilities as children"

"we must try to rehabilitate them"

"it's our fault as a society"

"we can't turn our backs on them"

I think maybe we should cut out the middle man - give them smack instead. Free smack for all junkies, the only catch is you have to do 4kg of it in one go.

Junkie problem solved.

genericguy · 15-07-2009 04:55PM

Trí wrote: »

Just - wow!

I know, so simple, yet so effective.

ScumLord · 15-07-2009 04:58PM

genericguy wrote: »

I'm going to take a stab at this from the lefty point of view -

"because they had no facilities as children"

"we must try to rehabilitate them"

"it's our fault as a society"

"we can't turn our backs on them"

I think maybe we should cut out the middle man - give them smack instead. Free smack for all junkies, the only catch is you have to do 4kg of it in one go.

Junkie problem solved.

Either that or we'll breed super junkies.

az2wp0sye65487 · 15-07-2009 04:58PM

I'm sure the majority of us here; and indeed the majority of Irish society, had no 'facilities' growing up.

Most of us turned out fine. What a cop out.

jeckel · 15-07-2009 04:59PM

well it's 200 quid they don't have to rob i suppose.

i don't see the advantage in cutting off a junkies dole. it's not going to make them get clean or seek gainful employment so all it'll do is make you feel better about you ****ty job, hardly a good trade off.

if we're paying politicians all those expenses to piss away in the dail bar and public servants all that cash to sit around looking half interested, we might as well pay junkies to sit and drink on the board walk. at least the junkies are honest about being total wasters.

97i9y3941 · 15-07-2009 05:01PM

whats the point,the taxpayer already pays for them to get treatment and off the stuff,money or to steal gets their fix,so giving them the dole gives them their fix again so another relapse...

ejmaztec · 15-07-2009 05:01PM

mirwillbeback wrote: »

I'm working in City Centre, in a job I hate to pay my way in life.

Today I couldn't get out of Tara St without walking through a crowd of zombies, and their children so decided to take the long way around.

I walked up town on lunch, and there are little packs of them on the Boardwalk, drinking their Bavaria and any other cheap beer topping up their tans.

Each of them would I imagine be getting 204 euro a week for being " available for work " or some medical exemption.

I f8cking hate them, how are their kids not taken into care ? Seen one give a three year old a smack across the hand one day that would have hurt an adult, and I regret ever since not going across and kicking the absolute sh!te outta him.

. :mad:

That's a bit harsh, wanting to kick the sh1te out of a three year old just because his parents are junkies.:eek:

shenanigans1982 · 15-07-2009 05:05PM

Quint wrote: »

It's not their fault they became junkies, they have no facilities in their area.

Thats boll*x, there was plenty of needles in the playground where I grew up...they had the same facilities we all had.

97i9y3941 · 15-07-2009 05:06PM

true,we often hear the sob stories of people having nothing so they stole and such,but then many of us had nothing growing up either but we didnt turn to crime...

Itsdacraic · 15-07-2009 05:07PM

Ah damn you anyways, now I have a craving for heroin. Sound.

thelordofcheese · 15-07-2009 05:13PM

genericguy wrote: »

I'm going to take a stab at this from the lefty point of view -

"because they had no facilities as children"

"we must try to rehabilitate them"

"it's our fault as a society"

"we can't turn our backs on them"

I think maybe we should cut out the middle man - give them smack instead. Free smack for all junkies, the only catch is you have to do 4kg of it in one go.

Junkie problem solved.

My aren't you a little bundle of sterotypes and self righteous indignation.

And now for a response you didn't fart out while thinking you were being clever.

They real question is why shouldn't they?

"Because they're junkies and i don't like how they spend their money"

Fair enough, but that's no reason to stop the payment, because we don't give out social welfare payments based on what we think people might do with it.

The government gives people the money to do with as they please, from that point on it's no business of theirs. There are no conditions on what you should spend it on, the assumption is that as an adult you'll do it wisely and if you don't well then, you don't.

If they want to waste it on drugs that's their decision.

Darragh29 · 15-07-2009 05:15PM

Quint wrote: »

It's not their fault they became junkies, they have no facilities in their area.

I've been listening to this ****e for years now, "WE'VE NO FUUKIN FIIIICILLLITTTTIES MISTOR!"

They are junkie scumbags because they sign up to and are attracted to scumbag behavioural norms. These people are hostile to hard working people, they are hopelessly beyond any kind of conversion into even fractionally useful citizenship.

A man living down in a field in the back of Connemara has no facilities worth talking about either, how come he doesn't become a heroin injecting junkie scumbag?

Should junkies receive Social Welfare

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