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Quick poll.... is the word 'Paddy' offensive to the Irish?

  • 14-07-2009 06:23PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭


    Just wondering what the general consensus is as i've had a rather 'interesting' discussion today on this topic :rolleyes:

    Is the term Paddy offensive 197 votes

    No
    0% 0 votes
    Yes if said by a foreign person, No if an Irish person using the term
    50% 100 votes
    Yes, always
    37% 73 votes
    Who gives a monkey's?
    12% 24 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    I dont find it offensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    no, personally I find 'Cunt' works perfectly well for me though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Nah it's grand.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    my friends name is paddy and it isnt offensive to him. unless he's hiding it inside?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Whiskey Devil


    No. I doubt a Joe Duffy listener could even find that offensive.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭TheInquisitor


    don't give a crap The world is already too PC as it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭PinkTulips


    This was an English woman, who classes herself Irish due to having Irish family :rolleyes: who said 'What is it with the feckin' irish?' and then refered to her relatives as the 'paddy aunties'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    No


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    No , any UK irish I know have no problem with it either .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    I've worked on quite a few building sites in ireland, england,germany holland and australia and and as soon as someone calls me paddy i call them whatever term is applicable to them, be it wog, pommie, n*gger, abbo, coconut, paki, hun, wife beater,...whatever. If they dont mind that then i dont mind paddy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Whiskey Devil


    PinkTulips wrote: »
    This was an English woman, who classes herself Irish due to having Irish family :rolleyes: who said 'What is it with the feckin' irish?' and then refered to her relatives as the 'paddy aunties'


    And this offended you, or not? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    No. That is all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Nope. Stupid thing to get offended about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Foreigners couldn't be any more offensive to the Irish than we are to ourself's. When ever anyone starts insulting the Irish when I'm abroad I agree with everything they say and start adding to the list. Throws them all a scupper so it does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭Wurly


    I would find it a wee bit offensive.

    I was called a 'paddy' a lot of the time in Oz. It seemed to suggest that Irish people were backward and inherently stupid. That was the context it was always said in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭PinkTulips


    The tone of her post offended some other posters, yes (see how i'm not swaying the vote by giving my opinion on it ;))

    I just wondered what the general consensus was...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭itouchmyself


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    I've worked on quite a few building sites in ireland, england,germany holland and australia and and as soon as someone calls me paddy i call them whatever term is applicable to them, be it wog, pommie, n*gger, abbo, coconut, paki, hun, wife beater,...whatever. If they dont mind that then i dont mind paddy.

    I done the exact same a few times with the "N" word when in London... the look off shock on there faces was great!!!
    I know it should'nt really offend me but when an English person says it, it just really does!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Trí wrote: »
    I would find it a wee bit offensive.

    I was called a 'paddy' a lot of the time in Oz. It seemed to suggest that Irish people were backward and inherently stupid. That was the context it was always said in.
    But we are backward and inherently stupid. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Foreigners couldn't be any more offensive to the Irish than we are to ourself's. When ever anyone starts insulting the Irish when I'm abroad I agree with everything they say and start adding to the list. Throws them all a scupper so it does.
    Agreed , there really is not much difference between an irish person calling another irish person stupid and a forigener doing same .Stupidity runs in all races .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Whiskey Devil


    PinkTulips wrote: »
    The tone of her post offended some other posters, yes (see how i'm not swaying the vote by giving my opinion on it ;))

    I just wondered what the general consensus was...

    Was this on Boards? I'd actually like to read it now. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    It does if it's some cockney wide boy who thinks he's superior to me, and calling me a "faacking paddy caaant"

    Then, yes, it's offensive.

    Also, someone who is too lazy to find out my name, and just brands me as "Paddy" because of my accent, that is offensive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭Wurly


    ScumLord wrote: »
    But we are backward and inherently stupid. :confused:

    Speak for yourself.:p

    I dunno - personally that concept annoys me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Yes, it's intended to be offensive and it succeeds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    I think like every word with a derogatory meaning,it depends on who is saying it and your relationship with this person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    I'd have no problem with it, especially when used in a self deprecating manner by Irish themselves...mate of mine with republican leanings takes great offence though, even when it's the Irish themselves using it.
    What's in a name? I'll happily call the english and other nationalities all manner of things so it's fair game IMO...if you've lived in the North though and ben called it by british soldiers, then it's a bit of a different manner because it is being used solely as an insult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Totally depends on context, but yes, there are certain contexts in which it is intended to offend. Yeah I'd freak over some yobbish British soldier **** using the term.

    I remember doing a training course attended by people from various companies which was being given by an English guy who worked for British Airways. Some silly bint (Irish) said to him "So, what do BA staff think of Willie Walsh being their boss... *simpering look* Are they a bit pissed of that, you know, the paddies are ordering them around, hee hee :o"... in her best "let's act subservient to the British - shur we're only Irish; I'm kinda embarrassed to be Irish" way.

    The guy looked a bit surprised and just said "Eh... no."

    I found that putting-down of her own nationality just pathetic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Dudess wrote: »
    I found that putting-down of her own nationality just pathetic.
    As you say , why worry about any other race slagging us off if we are doing a good job of it ourselfs ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Maddison


    No....I could think of a lot worse things to be called in fairness


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    No. I doubt a Joe Duffy listener could even find that offensive.

    wanna bet?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Dudess wrote: »
    I found that putting-down of her own nationality just pathetic.

    There's something in our national psyche that does that, maybe it's the whole 800 years and such...we (generalising here) seem to consider ourselves the underdogs or something...I think it's only the bit of confidence injected during the boom years that has started to put that attitude to bed somewhat...


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