IRA issue threat to Dublin Drug gang

g5fd6ow0hseima · 07-07-2009 11:55PM

dlofnep wrote: »

Bull****. I could just as well insinuate your involvement in drugs. The PIRA are long involved, along with many Republicans from ridding drugs from the streets. Unless you can provide evidence that the PIRA are involved in drug-running, keep your unfound comments to yourself.

I've yet to be proved otherwise. If the PIRA acted as the should, this country would have absolutely no drugs within its borders. Amazingly we're flooded with them.

marco murphy · 07-07-2009 11:57PM

Jaxton Embarrassed Leg wrote: »

I've yet to be proved otherwise. If the PIRA acted as the should, this country would have absolutely no drugs within its borders. Amazingly we're flooded with them.

Oh yeh, the IRA, considered illegal, can patrol our borders and our seas to stop drugs and get away with it. Not going to happen. Of course we're flooded with them.

smelltheglove · 07-07-2009 11:59PM

This issue isnt even related to drugs though. Wayne hated drugs but this is nothing to do wtih drugs.

dlofnep · 07-07-2009 11:59PM

Jaxton Embarrassed Leg wrote: »

I've yet to be proved otherwise. If the PIRA acted as the should, this country would have absolutely no drugs within its borders. Amazingly we're flooded with them.

So the onus is on the PIRA to remove all drugs from society? You do know that the PIRA exists only by name today, right?

Besides, is that what An Gardaí are for?

bug · 08-07-2009 12:03AM

Carlow52 wrote: »

All crap:
this is the work of DA and the other FF'ers to have the new Criminal Justice bill rammed through.

The whole episode has been carefully choreographed

I thought this too when I saw it, I mean, if the IRA were to get involved why now? Why because of this particular victim?
There have been a good few innocents caught in the crossfire before and far worse areas where kids just out of nappies are intimidating people on behalf of some lard ass knacker at the top of the chain.

It doesn't make any sense really.

stepbar · 08-07-2009 12:03AM

dlofnep wrote: »

Bull****. I could just as well insinuate your involvement in drugs. The PIRA are long involved, along with many Republicans from ridding drugs from the streets. Unless you can provide evidence that the PIRA are involved in drug-running, keep your unfound comments to yourself.

Aye, ridding the streets after the protection money stops... :rolleyes: It's like pot calling the kettle black. If the IRA / Sinn Fein showed a bit of respect for the law people mightened take such issue with them.

BTW I'll add that this "threat" is probably a load of bullsh1te

TheZohanS · 08-07-2009 12:09AM

bug wrote: »

I thought this too when I saw it, I mean, if the IRA were to get involved why now? Why because of this particular victim?
There have been a good few innocents caught in the crossfire before and far worse areas where kids just out of nappies are intimidating people on behalf of some lard ass knacker at the top of the chain.

It doesn't make any sense really.

Because it gets to a stage where enough is enough.

ScumLord · 08-07-2009 12:09AM

Perestroika wrote: »

Give me one shred of evidence or a name of an IRA volunteer convicted of such involvement, please.

How is he supposed to know the names of IRA? You tell me how the IRA built an international gun running empire by avoiding drugs. Where did all the drugs come from when the IRA ran crime in Ireland?

My name is URL · 08-07-2009 12:10AM

dlofnep wrote: »

Bull****. I could just as well insinuate your involvement in drugs. The PIRA are long involved, along with many Republicans from ridding drugs from the streets. Unless you can provide evidence that the PIRA are involved in drug-running, keep your unfound comments to yourself.

upthedub wrote: »

You havent a clue really do you !

Perestroika wrote: »

Course you can't. Epic fail gtfo

Well, define : IRA & involvement

Convictions? lmao

Keep your heads in the sand though, by all means

marco murphy · 08-07-2009 12:11AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Well, define : IRA & involvement

Convictions? lmao

Keep your heads in the sand though, by all means

Not even one name on a member convicted? No.

Men were jailed for trying to nail the Viper Foley though!, back in 80s

smelltheglove · 08-07-2009 12:11AM

Because Wayne was well known in the area, he took no crap from anyone, including scum, he would not have shyed away from any scumbag causing threats, just as he did not on this night. He died a hero, he was protecting his family, his neighbours.

IRISH RAIL · 08-07-2009 12:17AM

terrorists being allowed and supported to stop drug dealers is a discrace more policeing is whats needed the drug gangsand the ira have killed innocent people there both the same and both should be stopped

My name is URL · 08-07-2009 12:18AM

Perestroika wrote: »

Not even one name on a member convicted? No.

Men were jailed for trying to nail the Viper Foley though!, back in 80s

Just because they don't sell drugs doesn't mean they're not involved in how drug dealing works in Ireland.

The IRA are, at best.. 'regulators' of the drug trade here

marco murphy · 08-07-2009 12:20AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Just because they don't sell drugs doesn't mean they're not involved in how drug dealing works in Ireland.

The IRA are, at best.. 'regulators' of the drug trade here

Evidence? Or at least a theory? :pac:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9NSwOlrhoI

My name is URL · 08-07-2009 12:25AM

Perestroika wrote: »

Evidence? Or at least a theory? :pac:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9NSwOlrhoI

Theory:

How many drug dealers live in an average community?

How many IRA members or sympathisers live in an average community?

Why do the IRA not assist Gardai in the smaller cases and only target the 'big fish' when they show a superiority to another criminal gang, ie the IRA?

= regulation of a black market and an attempt to sustain their place in the underworld

bug · 08-07-2009 12:25AM

IRISH RAIL wrote: »

terrorists being allowed and supported to stop drug dealers is a discrace more policeing is whats needed the drug gangsand the ira have killed innocent people there both the same and both should be stopped

That's a lovely sound bite, you should write speeches.

Please tell us something we don't know... living here... in Dublin burbs.

marco murphy · 08-07-2009 12:27AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Theory:

How many drug dealers live in an average community?

How many IRA members or sympathisers live in an average community?

Why do the IRA not assist Gardai in the smaller cases and only target the 'big fish' when they show a superiority to another criminal gang, ie the IRA?

= regulation of a black market and an attempt to sustain their place in the underworld

Lmao mate. The Sunday World aren't recruiting.

netwhizkid · 08-07-2009 12:29AM

smelltheglove wrote: »

The man who was killed is far from a scumbag.

upthedub wrote: »

Can you exactly what you mean by your comment???:rolleyes:

Are you trying to say the man that was killed a few days ago was a scumbag???

The dead man was innocent person and most certainly not scum, my point was what difference is it is if the IRA knocks off the person/persons who killed this innocent person both the IRA and the killers are scum and a headline saying IRA issue threat, is hardly going to make them goody goody saviours in my book, it would have to be a cold day in my grave before I'd give this IRA any credibility a sad mark on the name IRA who were the heroes who won our Independence in the 1920's.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 08-07-2009 12:30AM

dlofnep wrote: »

So the onus is on the PIRA to remove all drugs from society? You do know that the PIRA exists only by name today, right?

Besides, is that what An Gardaí are for?

Oh but arent they the de-jure army of the people? Dont we come before criminals? It is a basic duty of theirs to ensure the wellbeing of the Irish people, and the continued health of Irish society, free from the pollution of drugs.....

Executive Steve · 08-07-2009 12:30AM

Jaxton Embarrassed Leg wrote: »

I've yet to be proved otherwise. If the PIRA acted as the should, this country would have absolutely no drugs within its borders. Amazingly we're flooded with them.

jesus....

there are, quite simply, no words...

dlofnep · 08-07-2009 12:33AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Just because they don't sell drugs doesn't mean they're not involved in how drug dealing works in Ireland.

The IRA are, at best.. 'regulators' of the drug trade here

Proof?

Nope.

Next.

dlofnep · 08-07-2009 12:35AM

Jaxton Embarrassed Leg wrote: »

Oh but arent they the de-jure army of the people? Dont we come before criminals? It is a basic duty of theirs to ensure the wellbeing of the Irish people, and the continued health of Irish society, free from the pollution of drugs.....

*sigh*

My name is URL · 08-07-2009 12:37AM

dlofnep wrote: »

Proof?

Nope.

Next.

Proof against?

Obviously an argument can't be won against a hard-liner. You'll draw your own conclusions in the end, as will I.

ScumLord · 08-07-2009 12:38AM

Perestroika wrote: »

Evidence?

Well thats hard to do, no IRA could ever admit to being a member if they got caught with drugs due to their anti drugs propaganda. What is it that makes you think they have never had anything to do with drugs? Or are you just taking the word of the terrorists and murders that held back peace in Ireland for so long?

Anyone that was involved in the drugs trade in Ireland in the 90s will tell you the IRA where at the top of the ladder and not just in this country. I don't see why any of those involved would give up that money, especially now that they've nothing better to do doing.

marco murphy · 08-07-2009 12:39AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Proof against?

Obviously an argument can't be won against a hard-liner. You'll draw your own conclusions in the end, as will I.

You wouldn't win that argument against even a hardline critic of the IRA.

Dyr · 08-07-2009 12:41AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Well, define : IRA & involvement

Convictions? lmao

Keep your heads in the sand though, by all means

Look mammy, clueless posts. You know the provo's were dealing wink wink nudge nudge? Should have told the gardai at the time they might have even managed to get one conviction for it lol

And all those nordies drug dealers in dublin in the 80's? they must have been on a comission from the provo's..and those sly hoors were going around claiming the 'RA had kicked them out of belfast under threat of death or interfering with their knees.

It would also explain why belfast had a huge heroin problem back then and our garda run capital city had none...oh..wait a minute

TheZohanS · 08-07-2009 12:41AM

Perestroika wrote: »

You wouldn't win that argument against even a hardline critic of the IRA.

He wouldn't lose it either.

Armin_Tamzarian · 08-07-2009 12:42AM

My name is URL wrote: »

Why do the IRA not assist Gardai in the smaller cases and only target the 'big fish' when they show a superiority to another criminal gang, ie the IRA?

It's a good point.
It's only in recent years with the emergence of some of these large, extremely ruthless criminal gangs that the PIRA was presented with someone in the South who were willing to challenge them.

Criminals gangs were traditionally terrified of the PIRA.
A case in point being Martin Cahill, he tried it on with them and look what happened to him.

These newer breed of criminal gangs are made up largely of crazed lunatics in their late teens and early twenties who live by the mantra 'I don't give a shlt' - and they don't.
Previously PIRA member would only have to give these guys a dirty look to keep them quiet, now it's a much different story.

Regarding PIRA involvement in drugs.
A plausible case cannot be made that the PIRA as an entity, are or ever were involved in drugs.
PIRA members involvement in drugs was never viewed as acceptable by the organisation.
Having said that it would be extremely naïve to say that no PIRA members privately got involeved in the drug trade.
Obviously factors such as their status in the underworld and things like their involvement in cigarette smuggling would place them ideally to abuse their position so as to make money somehow from the drugs trade.
It's pretty much a well known fact that certain members, particularly in areas such as Limerick and Dublin have been involved (be it loosely or not) in the drugs trade for years.

marco murphy · 08-07-2009 12:43AM

ScumLord wrote: »

Well thats hard to do, no IRA could ever admit to being a member if they got caught with drugs due to their anti drugs propaganda. What is it that makes you think they have never had anything to do with drugs? Or are you just taking the word of the terrorists and murders that held back peace in Ireland for so long?

Anyone that was involved in the drugs trade in Ireland in the 90s will tell you the IRA where at the top of the ladder and not just in this country. I don't see why any of those involved would give up that money, especially now that they've nothing better to do doing.

Another theory. A rubbish one. No evidence, its up to you.

ScumLord · 08-07-2009 12:46AM

Well I'm not going to start naming and shaming IRA or the other side (who where at it too) on a public forum. If you want to believe the IRA are all fine upstanding members of the community then I don't think anyone can possibly talk sense with you. So I'll leave it at that.

IRA issue threat to Dublin Drug gang

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