Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

itsjaybud · 06-07-2009 04:10PM

Arsenal back to the training ground today preparing for pre-season, hopefully we can make another signing pretty soon to give him some match time before the league kicks off.

According to SSN Carlos Vela was the only absentee from training after picking up an ankle injury playing for Mexico. Hopefully nothing too serious.

Royale with Cheese · 06-07-2009 04:33PM

Anyone think Richard Dunne would have been worth a punt at £2m? If he would have been willing to sit on the bench that is. Would be good having someone like him coming in after injuries, instead of someone like Sylvestre/Cygan/Stepanovs/insert shít defender here.

MementoMori · 06-07-2009 05:29PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Anyone think Richard Dunne would have been worth a punt at £2m? If he would have been willing to sit on the bench that is. Would be good having someone like him coming in after injuries, instead of someone like Sylvestre/Cygan/Stepanovs/insert shít defender here.

I think the bit in bold would have been the problem - really can't see Dunne as the type willing to warm a bench. Barring injuries I would expect him to be an ever-present at Sunderland.

PDN · 06-07-2009 09:27PM

Redzer7 wrote: »

Just seen the Bbc text there saying that Florentina eye Eboue as part of the Melo deal.
Also seen in the gossip column that AC Milan are gonna offer 20mil plus Flamini,
That would be a fantastic deal imo.

PLEASE let the Eboue / Melo deal work out. In fact I would be happy to see Eboue swapped for Dustin the Turkey.

yahoo_moe · 06-07-2009 09:37PM

MementoMori wrote: »

really can't see Dunne as the type willing to warm a bench.

Yup - I think that, given his stature in the international team, he'd have to want first-team football.

Royale with Cheese · 06-07-2009 09:39PM

Yeah I guess, but I wouldn't see him as completely warming the bench. He'd probably end up playing as many games as any other centre back at the club. Wouldn't play week in week out though.

UnitedIrishman · 07-07-2009 12:40AM

Max Power1 wrote: »

Not a chance!

If ronaldo is worth £80 million then Fabregas is worth a lot more than that. Plus, who would replace him?

Lord, he's good. But he's not that good.

WillieCocker · 07-07-2009 09:31AM

PDN wrote: »

In fact I would be happy to see Eboue swapped for Dustin the Turkey.

Agree totally.
Although i do believe we have enough "Melo" type players at the club.

Gooners everywhere are used to the "Cesc Sale" every season, let it pass.

My only wish this season is to lose Adebaywhore & Ebooue.

thorbarry · 07-07-2009 09:38AM

WillieCocker wrote: »

Agree totally.
Although i do believe we have enough "Melo" type players at the club.

Who? Song is the only solid defensive midfielder we had last season... Denílson is good, but not really for breaking up play. Im not saying Melo is great or anything, but a having two solid defensive midfeilders would be a good start to the pre season.

Galvasean · 07-07-2009 11:51AM

I wouldn't even call Song solid. His passing is atrocious. As for Denilson, he's not a natural DM. He's more at home in the Cesc role, which he will not be getting.

L'prof · 07-07-2009 12:19PM

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Lord, he's good. But he's not that good.

I think he meant if Ronaldo is worth £80m, then Fabregas should be worth a lot more than the reported £40m, which I think is a fair point!

WillieCocker · 07-07-2009 12:31PM

thorbarry wrote: »

Who? Song is the only solid defensive midfielder we had last season... Denílson is good, but not really for breaking up play. Im not saying Melo is great or anything, but a having two solid defensive midfeilders would be a good start to the pre season.

Getting rid of Adebayor & Eboue would be an even better one.

DenMan · 07-07-2009 12:35PM

This is very promising I have to say. Be great if the deal goes through.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5418693,00.html

WillieCocker · 07-07-2009 12:39PM

DenMan wrote: »

This is vey promising I have to say. Be great if the deal goes through.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5418693,00.html

Excellent!!!

Pepe LeFrits · 07-07-2009 12:46PM

Arseblog has an interesting interview with Ivan Gazidis today.

thorbarry · 07-07-2009 12:54PM

WillieCocker wrote: »

Getting rid of Adebayor & Eboue would be an even better one.

I'd have to disagree. If Ade's attitude isn't right and we still have him come next season, he wont play. As much as Eboue frustrates me, he is decent back up/ utility player. I think strengthening the defensive side of our game is much more important than letting 2 players go

thorbarry · 07-07-2009 01:02PM

As most of you know, over the pre season Arsenal are linked to a massive amount of players, from Martins, to Owen, basically anybody that can kick a ball. I check Arsenal News Now regularly, but the past couple of months on the site have been absolutely ridiculous, rumour after rumour... This guy called "rocky" has his version of it, which is basically the same as the news now feed, but, he has filtered out All the crap. So check it out, if you want to read news stories about arsenal, and not just the same crap reprinted from the Sun, and the mirror

http://www.rockynewsnow.info/

WillieCocker · 07-07-2009 01:27PM

thorbarry wrote: »

I'd have to disagree. If Ade's attitude isn't right and we still have him come next season, he wont play. As much as Eboue frustrates me, he is decent back up/ utility player. I think strengthening the defensive side of our game is much more important than letting 2 players go

Eboue's an athlete nothing more, and a thug at times.
Couldn't pass to save his life.
Doesn't deserve to be wearing the shirt IMO.

thorbarry · 07-07-2009 01:42PM

I agree with what your saying, that game against Spurs this season, I wanted to kill him. I too don't think he deserves to play for us, he isn't good enough and is a liability. But as much as I think that, I stress it is much more important for us to strengthen the defensive side of our game than get rid of Eboue. If I was given an option, A) Sell Eboue or

Buy a defensive midfielder. It would be B every time

Roaster · 07-07-2009 02:20PM

Oh no!

and who's the guy to the right of Senderos

Mossy Monk · 07-07-2009 02:34PM

Roaster wrote: »

Oh no!

Oh no it's Senderos

yahoo_moe · 07-07-2009 02:35PM

thorbarry wrote: »

Denílson is good, but not really for breaking up play.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/season-review-stats

His percentage isn't as high as Song's but his numbers are better - and anecdotally, I'd say that Song had a few pass interceptions included in his tackle count, whereas Denilson's tend to be man-to-man.

Plus when he gets the ball, his passing is more incisive - check out Guardian chalkboards for comparisons of where the two pass the ball (though I agree with Galvasean that he's still adapting from the Cesc role to the Gilberto/Flamini role).

yahoo_moe · 07-07-2009 02:37PM

Roaster wrote: »

That's disgraceful - third in our Player of the Season and nobody even gave Manuel a pair of shorts...

thorbarry · 07-07-2009 02:51PM

yahoo_moe wrote: »

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/season-review-stats

His percentage isn't as high as Song's but his numbers are better - and anecdotally, I'd say that Song had a few pass interceptions included in his tackle count, whereas Denilson's tend to be man-to-man.

Plus when he gets the ball, his passing is more incisive - check out Guardian chalkboards for comparisons of where the two pass the ball (though I agree with Galvasean that he's still adapting from the Cesc role to the Gilberto/Flamini role).

Interesting stats, i remember looking at the guardian chalkboards a while ago, very good indeed. I agree that denilson is a much better passer of the ball than song, but i think song suits playing in front of the back 4 more than denilson. But as you say he is still adapting "Cesc role to the Gilberto/Flamini role". He is a very intelligent player, and hopefully if cesc stays fit, we can see some competition between Song/ Denilson next year to partner him

Galvasean · 07-07-2009 02:59PM

DenMan wrote: »

This is very promising I have to say. Be great if the deal goes through.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5418693,00.html

Valid sawp eh? So Eboué is worth €25million now? :pac:

DenMan · 07-07-2009 03:00PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Valid sawp eh? So Eboué is worth €25million now? :pac:

Oh at least Galv.

WillieCocker · 07-07-2009 03:04PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Valid sawp eh? So Eboué is worth €25million now? :pac:

Of course, wouldn't you pay the team that to take him off your hands.?

WillieCocker · 07-07-2009 03:07PM

Roaster wrote: »

Oh no!

and who's the guy to the right of Senderos

There's no way he's going to get his game ahead of Vermaelen, although he may prove worthy if he has to stand in.
My problem is not keeping Eboue, it's playing him ahead of any other squad member:pac:

Galvasean · 07-07-2009 03:10PM

Senderos as a back up player would be okay, but certainly not a 20 game + per season man.

Pepe LeFrits · 07-07-2009 07:14PM

3 reasons for optimism this coming season!

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