Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

leninbenjamin

Owen... yeesh, we'd have to fall a lot farther before we'd consider him.

anywho lads, i'm taking a break from boards. just wanted to say keep up the sh*te talk. :P

WillieCocker

gosplan wrote: »

Most Arsenal fans would say either that don't need to replace Adebayor ?

I think most would say get rid of him ASAP.
I think even the clubs interested in him last season have gone off him since beacuse of his wages antics.

SlickRic

adebayor had his season in the sun.

get rid.

as long as eduardo can prove his fitness.

Galvasean

Headshot wrote: »

back page of the daily star.

Wenger ribery raid, gunners in record 40m swoop, 40m plus bentner .

Daily star are really taking the piss

Thanks for that. You gave me my fist laugh of the day

Headshot wrote: »

Huntelaar could be gotten on the cheap

I was thinking about this. With Madrid buying all these high priced attacking superstars Huntelaar is bound to be left feeling a bit unloved. He has been for a while a player I'd like to see join Arsenal.

I saw on SSN that AC milan have made an official enquiry for Adebayor. I say if an offer of £20million+ came in SELL SELL SELL!

Anyone catch the England under 21s v Sweden game? Walcott and Gibbs both netted penalties in the shootout. I hear Gibbs is doing very well for England U21s. Although I also hear Walcott is having something of a 'mare. I wouldn't be surprised if Wenger told him to take the tournament easy as not to burn himself out in time for the new domestic season (I stand by that having a player actively playing in both the full international team as well as the under 21s is ludicrous). That said I believe Walcott is set to start the final as centre forward.

From what I've seen of Melo in th Confederations Cup he doesn't look all that. Speaking of Brazilians, I see Gilberto Silva is still getting his game.

DenMan

Gilberto has urged Melo to sign for Arsenal. I hope we get him, be a great signing. Needs to work on his discipline though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8123503.stm

Souless

DenMan wrote: »

Gilberto has urged Melo to sign for Arsenal. I hope we get him, be a great signing. Needs to work on his discipline though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8123503.stm

Yeah by the looks of that his first season in Series A was one with plenty of cards. He hasn't really impressed me in the confederations cup though, but with that said I guess that's the only time i've seen him.

Galvasean

Now that I think about it didn't Patrick Vieira amass 99 yellow cards playing for us?

WillieCocker

Galvasean wrote: »

Now that I think about it didn't Patrick Vieira amass 99 yellow cards playing for us?

Sure, wasn't far off that.

Souless

Galvasean wrote: »

Now that I think about it didn't Patrick Vieira amass 99 yellow cards playing for us?

lol touché

yahoo_moe

Souless wrote: »

He hasn't really impressed me in the confederations cup though, but with that said I guess that's the only time i've seen him.

I haven't watched any of the Confederations Cup, and I know gosplan or someone was saying that he wasn't impressed by Melo either, but I wouldn't judge him on just that competition.

If we are in for him, and if we do sign him, I'm sure he'll have been watched over a couple of months... there's really not a lot of point judging him in a meaningless tournament at the end of a long season (where Fiorentina did very well but ultimately faded a bit). Poor bloke just wants a holiday, I'd say.

Galvasean

I see Almunia was voted #3 as Arsenal.com's player of the season.

DenMan

Just been linked with German defender, Serdar Tasci. He plays with Stuttgart and his highly sought after right now.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11670_5406409,00.html

Kirnsy

another back??

plus benezema and melo and ribery.

great summer

Galvasean

Well if Touré is leaving then another back would be needed.
Hopefully Vermaelen is viewed as an addition rather than a replacement.

gosplan

WillieCocker wrote: »

I think most would say get rid of him ASAP.
I think even the clubs interested in him last season have gone off him since beacuse of his wages antics.

You read me wrong. I ment 'don't need to replace' as in sell him but we're ok for forwards.

itsjaybud

gosplan wrote: »

You read me wrong. I ment 'don't need to replace' as in sell him but we're ok for forwards.

Jesus no if Adebayor goes that money will have to go towards another striker imo.

GuanYin

I still think Arsenal need 3-4 defensive minded players in their squad to compete.

I'm not sure selling Adebayor or Bendtner is a good idea, I seem to remember them being short on striking options last season.

Arsenal's biggest problem is lack of depth. They should be building on the squad they have, not trading players.

mink_man

their biggest mistake was letting go of flamini

enfant terrible

yahoo_moe wrote: »

I haven't watched any of the Confederations Cup, and I know gosplan or someone was saying that he wasn't impressed by Melo either, but I wouldn't judge him on just that competition.

If we are in for him, and if we do sign him, I'm sure he'll have been watched over a couple of months... there's really not a lot of point judging him in a meaningless tournament at the end of a long season (where Fiorentina did very well but ultimately faded a bit). Poor bloke just wants a holiday, I'd say.

I like the way Melo is always looking to make a forward pass, not a sidewards pass like Denilson.

He also spreads the ball across the pitch much better than Denilson and is a danger from set pieces.

I think if he joins us, once he settles he would be a excellent player.

Here he is against Juventus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBwrMCQU_-Q

gosplan

itsjaybud wrote: »

Jesus no if Adebayor goes that money will have to go towards another striker imo.

Disagree. We scored enough goals last year without a whole lot of help from Adebayor and while Arshavin was available for only a fraction of the games.

Pick any two from RVP, Bendtner, Arshavin, Eduardo, Vela and perhaps Walcott should Wenger wish to play him there. That's enough strikers.

WillieCocker

Agreed.
If we hang on to "King Offside", where will Eduardo or Vela get to play???
Eduardo is definately a much better TEAM PLAYER than Adebayor, and could probably score more on his best day.
And Vela is just wasting away in our squad......what a waste.

L'prof

gosplan wrote: »

Disagree. We scored enough goals last year without a whole lot of help from Adebayor and while Arshavin was available for only a fraction of the games.

Pick any two from RVP, Bendtner, Arshavin, Eduardo, Vela and perhaps Walcott should Wenger wish to play him there. That's enough strikers.

I disagree, I think we would need a similar type player to replace Ade if he left, I'm not sure Bendtner is quite ready to be his replacement.

WillieCocker wrote: »

Agreed.
If we hang on to "King Offside", where will Eduardo or Vela get to play???
Eduardo is definately a much better TEAM PLAYER than Adebayor, and could probably score more on his best day.
And Vela is just wasting away in our squad......what a waste.

I'll rely on Eduardo when he gets a full season under his belt. As for Vela, I'm disappointed we haven't seen more of him, but he's very lightweight...he probably needs to bulk up a bit first.

premierstone

mink_man wrote: »

their biggest mistake was letting go of flamini

What would you have suggested Arsenal do, if he wanted to go he wanted to go, no point in having a player who:

a) wanted to be elsewhere; and
b) wasnt quite as good as he would like to believe.*


* Actually as I type this I realised I could just as easily be talking about 'offside Ade' - difference been we could get a nice wad for this wantaway.

itsjaybud

gosplan wrote: »

Disagree. We scored enough goals last year without a whole lot of help from Adebayor and while Arshavin was available for only a fraction of the games.

Pick any two from RVP, Bendtner, Arshavin, Eduardo, Vela and perhaps Walcott should Wenger wish to play him there. That's enough strikers.

Bendtner isnt good enough to be starting week in week out for us. If Ade does go he will have to be replaced with another striker, I cant understand why you would want to see the squad weakened in terms of strikers.

We're all pretty familar with the amount of injuries the squad suffers throughout the season and i think having strength and depth in the squad is vital if we're to challenge for silverware next season.

Tbh if Ade is sold i would be shocked if Wenger doesnt put a certain amount of that money towards another striker.

WillieCocker wrote: »

Agreed.
If we hang on to "King Offside", where will Eduardo or Vela get to play???
Eduardo is definately a much better TEAM PLAYER than Adebayor, and could probably score more on his best day.
And Vela is just wasting away in our squad......what a waste.

Im not too sure if that question was directed at me, but i never said that we should hold on to Ade, and if a big offer comes in for him id be all for selling him. Its just that he has to be replaced you mention Eduardo and Vela and I would have to agree with jasonorr's comments.

Vela is without doubt a classy player but do you really think he is ready to make an impact for the team on a weekly basis?

SWAR

premierstone wrote: »

What would you have suggested Arsenal do, if he wanted to go he wanted to go, no point in having a player who:

a) wanted to be elsewhere; and
b) wasnt quite as good as he would like to believe.*


* Actually as I type this I realised I could just as easily be talking about 'offside Ade' - difference been we could get a nice wad for this wantaway.

Wasn't it the fact that Arsenal were not prepared to meet his wage demands, which were apparently in line with other top earners at the club? I could be wrong obviously as I'm not an Arsenal supporter and not in touch with the goings on at the club like you but that was what I was lead to believe.

L'prof

SWAR wrote: »

Wasn't it the fact that Arsenal were not prepared to meet his wage demands, which were apparently in line with other top earners at the club? I could be wrong obviously as I'm not an Arsenal supporter and not in touch with the goings on at the club like you but that was what I was lead to believe.

I'm not sure to be honest, but he apparently he supported Milan as a child so when they came in for him he couldn't resist. As for wanting parity with the top earners? I'm sure whatever deal was offered was adequate, he only had one season (out of 4) where he could have been described as one of the best players at the club. Deserving of parity...hardly!

SWAR

jasonorr wrote: »

I'm not sure to be honest, but he apparently he supported Milan as a child so when they came in for him he couldn't resist. As for wanting parity with the top earners? I'm sure whatever deal was offered was adequate, he only had one season (out of 4) where he could have been described as one of the best players at the club. Deserving of parity...hardly!

I suppose if he did support Milan as a child then that definately could of sealed things for him; however was he a first team regular for all of his four seasons at the club? Not trying to counter your point, just wondering, as as I said I'm not an Arsenal supporter. Also, it does take time to adapt to the Premier League style, ok 3 years is long enough for anyone, but seen as Arsenal didn't have an abundance of Flamini type players at that time, do you not think they should of been a bit more generous as he was proving himself as a very tidy player. IMO last season has shown that it was a mistake to let him go.

Who would Arsenal fans like to sign as a CM/DM type player, within reason of course?

Headshot

i hear melo has signed a 1yr extension to his contract at fiorentina

WillieCocker

itsjaybud wrote: »

Vela is without doubt a classy player but do you really think he is ready to make an impact for the team on a weekly basis?

No definately not.
But if he was to come on PRE-65mins (this is important as Wenger doesn't seem to understand the word super-sub unless Bendy boots is involved) then i feel Vela could have a massive impact if he were to come on and play alongside RVP up front , with Eduardo playing just off the front 2 in AMC.
Vela has flourished everytime he's played with Eduardo.

As with Baptista 2 seasons back, Adebayor was always standing around with arms held high making jestures towards players who were genuinely trying but not making the cut and it only hurts their development.
Baptista was the biggest bastard in football, still couldn't cut it in the Premier league so i don't buy all that bulky nonsense.

L'prof

SWAR wrote: »

I suppose if he did support Milan as a child then that definately could of sealed things for him; however was he a first team regular for all of his four seasons at the club? Not trying to counter your point, just wondering, as as I said I'm not an Arsenal supporter. Also, it does take time to adapt to the Premier League style, ok 3 years is long enough for anyone, but seen as Arsenal didn't have an abundance of Flamini type players at that time, do you not think they should of been a bit more generous as he was proving himself as a very tidy player. IMO last season has shown that it was a mistake to let him go.

He wasn't regarded as a first team regular until his last season at the club although he made more appearances in the '06 season when we got to the champions league final. He was filling in, and doing a very good job, for the injured Ashley Cole. He was then dropped for the Champions League Final and replaced by Cole, who was coming back from injury...a decision I wasn't happy with, especially since Cole fúcked off the following season, and I always thought Flamini might have been bitter about that!

In his 4 seasons he made 153 appearances, that's 38 a season. It's a great return for a squad/utility player, but he was mostly played out of position as cover for injuries (if I remember correctly)...think John O'Shea except better!