Cigarettes! Get your cigarettes here!

Aidric · 04-07-2009 10:28pm

P.C. wrote: »

They actually make a very low margin on cigs, but most smokers buy other things (like chewing gum) when they buy their fags, and that is why they sell them.

Ya cause the margins on a pack of chewing gum are huge.

siobhan.murphy · 04-07-2009 10:33pm

ok,anyone goingabroad can u bring me back 400 purple or phillip morris smokes?
Can collect or can arrange 4 them to be collected anywhere in Ireland,sick of paying these high prices for smokes here.
pm please

Wagon · 04-07-2009 10:33pm

MIN2511 wrote: »

I think non smokers attacking smokers is most retarded thing ever, wtf are you to judge us? We pay taxes, pay health insurance, if we want to smoke our lungs out it's none of you GOD DAMMED BUSINESS!!

Sums it up rather well.

copacetic · 04-07-2009 10:34pm

el_weirdo wrote: »

I'm sure I read somewhere that smokers are less likely to get alzheimers...

I'd say this is true, you are much less likely to get alzheimers when you are dead.

jumpguy · 04-07-2009 10:37pm

I'd hope the government puts as much energy in trying to get people to quit as they do trying to get people not to start. No such thing as a National Non-Starters helpline. WAIT, there's tax!

Anyone have figures for how much revenue to government actually does make from the sale of tobacco products?

Yesssss!

El Weirdo · 04-07-2009 10:37pm

Actually, I got it the wrong way round... They're more likely to get it...

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE5084VD20090109

Edit:Maybe I'm getting Alzheimer's...:eek:

*lights up another fag*

jochenstacker · 04-07-2009 10:47pm

That is precisely my argument.
Smokers first, then fatties, than anyone driving a car (already there), people eating junk food, people who drink, anyone not doing a minimum of excercise, etc...
This is fascism, nothing else and if this ever comes to pass I'll be the first to (for reasons of legality I cannot complete this sentence).

P.C. · 04-07-2009 10:47pm

Aidric wrote: »

Ya cause the margins on a pack of chewing gum are huge.

Yip, about 3 to 4 times that on cigs.

The retailers make almost as much out of one pack of chewing gum as they make from a pack of cigs.

How much do you think the retailers make from a pack of cigs?

copacetic · 04-07-2009 10:54pm

jochenstacker wrote: »

That is precisely my argument.
Smokers first, then fatties, than anyone driving a car (already there), people eating junk food, people who drink, anyone not doing a minimum of excercise, etc...
This is fascism, nothing else and if this ever comes to pass I'll be the first to (for reasons of legality I cannot complete this sentence).

ah I see, it's a game. I'll guess

You'll be first to.....

open a history book and find out what facism actually is?

El Weirdo · 04-07-2009 11:05pm

copacetic wrote: »

ah I see, it's a game. I'll guess

You'll be first to.....

open a history book and find out what facism actually is?

...or a dictionary and find out how to spell it.:pac:

jochenstacker · 04-07-2009 11:08pm

Ok, maybe totalitarianism may be more accurate.
Forcing an idea onto people by any means whatsoever, while silencing dissenters.

sub-x · 04-07-2009 11:12pm

copacetic wrote: »

I guess they pay a lot of extra VAT on all the food they stuff in their gobs, diet books, slimming pills etc? I'm with you though. How to enforce the tax is the hard bit, yearly weigh ins? cc tax scheme like cars? You could then get a yellow tax disc to wear on your arm showing you are taxed for a certain cc when stopped by the inspectors on the street. Ryanair will be charging them by weight soon enough, that'll be a start.

Yeah just give them gold stars of David and tattoo numbers on their arms,hell just fore go all of that and send them right to the gas chambers there Adolf :rolleyes:

MikeC101 · 04-07-2009 11:14pm

Why Mr. Godwin, hullo.

What's that? Looking for your law? Oh no, you won't find it here.

Ohhh...wait...

copacetic · 04-07-2009 11:18pm

sub-x wrote: »

Yeah just give them gold stars of David and tattoo numbers on their arms,hell just fore go all of that and send them right to the gas chambers there Adolf :rolleyes:

heh, so you made the jump from yellow arm tags to adding the star? well done, I couldn't I have done much more to make it obvious and you think it wasn't deliberate. ffs, just how dim are people these days.

nayorleck114 · 04-07-2009 11:19pm

No matter how cheap they are, they are still bad for your health.

Here are some of the additives the american Tabacco companies add to Tobacco Cigs.

* Acetanisole
* Acetic Acid
* Acetoin
* Acetophenone
* 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
* 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
* 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
* Acetylpyrazine
* 2-Acetylpyridine
* 3-Acetylpyridine
* 2-Acetylthiazole
* Aconitic Acid
* dl-Alanine
* Alfalfa Extract
* Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
* Allyl Hexanoate
* Allyl Ionone
* Almond Bitter Oil
* Ambergris Tincture
* Ammonia
* Ammonium Bicarbonate
* Ammonium Hydroxide
* Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
* Ammonium Sulfide
* Amyl Alcohol
* Amyl Butyrate
* Amyl Formate
* Amyl Octanoate
* alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
* Amyris Oil
* trans-Anethole
* Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
* Anise
* Anise Star, Extract and Oils
* Anisyl Acetate
* Anisyl Alcohol
* Anisyl Formate
* Anisyl Phenylacetate
* Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
* Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
* 1-Arginine
* Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
* Ascorbic Acid
* 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
* 1-Aspartic Acid
* Balsam Peru and Oil
* Basil Oil
* Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
* Beeswax White
* Beet Juice Concentrate
* Benzaldehyde
* Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
* Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
* Benzoin Resin
* Benzophenone
* Benzyl Alcohol
* Benzyl Benzoate
* Benzyl Butyrate
* Benzyl Cinnamate
* Benzyl Propionate
* Benzyl Salicylate
* Bergamot Oil
* Bisabolene
* Black Currant Buds Absolute
* Borneol
* Bornyl Acetate
* Buchu Leaf Oil
* 1,3-Butanediol
* 2,3-Butanedione
* 1-Butanol
* 2-Butanone
* 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
* Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
* Butyl Acetate
* Butyl Butyrate
* Butyl Butyryl Lactate
* Butyl Isovalerate
* Butyl Phenylacetate
* Butyl Undecylenate
* 3-Butylidenephthalide
* Butyric Acid]
* Cadinene
* Caffeine
* Calcium Carbonate
* Camphene
* Cananga Oil
* Capsicum Oleoresin
* Caramel Color
* Caraway Oil
* Carbon Dioxide
* Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
* Carob Bean and Extract
* beta-Carotene
* Carrot Oil
* Carvacrol
* 4-Carvomenthenol
* 1-Carvone
* beta-Caryophyllene
* beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
* Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
* Cassia Bark Oil
* Cassie Absolute and Oil
* Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
* Cedar Leaf Oil
* Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
* Cedrol
* Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
* Cellulose Fiber
* Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
* Chicory Extract
* Chocolate
* Cinnamaldehyde
* Cinnamic Acid
* Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
* Cinnamyl Acetate
* Cinnamyl Alcohol
* Cinnamyl Cinnamate
* Cinnamyl Isovalerate
* Cinnamyl Propionate
* Citral
* Citric Acid
* Citronella Oil
* dl-Citronellol
* Citronellyl Butyrate
* itronellyl Isobutyrate
* Civet Absolute
* Clary Oil
* Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
* Cocoa
* Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
* Coconut Oil
* Coffee
* Cognac White and Green Oil
* Copaiba Oil
* Coriander Extract and Oil
* Corn Oil
* Corn Silk
* Costus Root Oil
* Cubeb Oil
* Cuminaldehyde
* para-Cymene
* 1-Cysteine

MikeC101 · 04-07-2009 11:21pm

That's a lot of stuff. Cigarettes seems like pretty good value, if they have all those things in them.

sub-x · 04-07-2009 11:24pm

copacetic wrote: »

heh, so you made the jump from yellow arm tags to adding the star? well done, I couldn't I have done much more to make it obvious and you think it wasn't deliberate. ffs, just how dim are people these days.

No,no I knew it was deliberate,this is how the PC police think,a subtle form of fascism,its called "Centralized Control",the government,servants of the people tell the people how to live their lives,thats what it is a nut shell.

P.C. · 04-07-2009 11:26pm

MikeC101 wrote: »

That's a lot of stuff. Cigarettes seems like pretty good value, if they have all those things in them.

And he/she only got to 'C'

just think how long the list would be if you included stuff from all the letters of the alphabet

.

Worth every cent

.

sub-x · 04-07-2009 11:29pm

nayorleck114 wrote: »

No matter how cheap they are, they are still bad for your health.

Here are some of the additives the american Tabacco companies add to Tobacco Cigs.

Now to really scare you,cross reference some those chemicals with some food products.

MikeC101 wrote: »

That's a lot of stuff. Cigarettes seems like pretty good value, if they have all those things in them.

LMFAO

P.C. · 04-07-2009 11:33pm

nayorleck114 wrote: »

No matter how cheap they are, they are still bad for your health.

Here are some of the additives the american Tabacco companies add to Tobacco Cigs.

* Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
* Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
* Basil Oil
* Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
* Beet Juice Concentrate
* Caffeine
* Calcium Carbonate
* Carrot Oil
* Chocolate
* Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
* Cocoa
* Coconut Oil
* Coffee
* Corn Oil

I don't want to sound pedantic here,

but

aren't these things supposed to good for you?

jumpguy · 04-07-2009 11:36pm

P.C. wrote: »

I don't want to sound pedantic here,

but

aren't these things supposed to good for you?

Coffee and caffeine? And don't get me started on how bad corn oil is for you.

P.C. · 04-07-2009 11:42pm

jumpguy wrote: »

Coffee and caffeine? And don't get me started on how bad corn oil is for you.

Coffee and Caffiene are good for me!

Trust me on this.

They might not be good for everyone else, but they are for me.

jumpguy · 04-07-2009 11:43pm

P.C. wrote: »

Coffee and Caffiene are good for me!

Trust me on this.

They might not be good for everyone else, but they are for me.

I had abit of a coffee addiction going on last winter (it's a great substitute for sleep) but eventually I started waking up in the middle of the night and getting bad headaches.

Moral: One man's meat is another man's poison.

nayorleck114 · 05-07-2009 12:02am

sub-x wrote: »

Now to really scare you,cross reference some those chemicals with some food products.

LMFAO

Correct, However once you burn the chemicals they become hazardous.(their properties change) They are added to make Nicotine more addictive or to allow it enter blood quicker.

jochenstacker · 05-07-2009 12:36am

Buy hand rolling tobacco.
Has no added sh*t.

El Weirdo · 05-07-2009 12:41am

jochenstacker wrote: »

Buy hand rolling tobacco.
Has no added sh*t.

You are joking?

jochenstacker · 05-07-2009 12:45am

http://www.rollyourown.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=92_97

El Weirdo · 05-07-2009 12:49am

jochenstacker wrote: »

http://www.rollyourown.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=92_97

Indeed, but I'm pretty sure that a lot of your more well-known brands have some additives in them... Although I have been wrong in this thread already... Nothing like consistency.

jochenstacker · 05-07-2009 12:54am

cornbb · 05-07-2009 12:56am

copacetic wrote: »

this is after hours, not politics, do your own research. it'll take seconds on google I'm sure.

Oh come on. You're the one throwing around baseless claims, I'm now calling your bluff and asking you to back them up.

I did a quick google and found various sources which claimed that the treatment of "smoking related illnesses" cost between €1-2bn per year. I can't find figures indicating how much the Revenue is taking in. I've done my bit, I'm now challenging you to back up your claim. Otherwise its fair to assume that you plucked it out of the air.

Cigarettes! Get your cigarettes here!

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