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Criminal Justice (Amendment) Bill 2009

  • 30-06-2009 04:22PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭


    Should we be worried?, it includes such classics as including secret detention hearings and detention on the unsupported word of a single Guard.

    I know why there trying to bringing it in but some of it seems very suspect, have they taken a leaf out of the CIA handbook on this one?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Uve nothing to worry about if ur a model citizen.

    About time they started cracking down hard on the scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    Yes we should be extremely worried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    ....awaits Run_To_Da_Hills.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    ....awaits Run_To_Da_Hills.....

    He may well have been secretly detained.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Big Brother loves you.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Isn't this the one drafted after the shooting of that rugby player in Limerick and is aimied at tackling organised crime?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    He may well have been secretly detained.:eek:

    And what better way to throw people off the scent than by pretending to be waiting for him........


    ........ muuuhhahaaaahaaaaaaaahhaawwaaahhaaaaaaa!!!!!


    Might have just given it away there come to think of it.

    *speaks into cuff* "Get me out of here"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Great, more rules and laws but no extra bodies to enforce them or prisons to house the results.
    The only worrying thing is the fact that Ahern is still in charge of the justice brief...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    el tonto wrote: »
    Isn't this the one drafted after the shooting of that rugby player in Limerick and is aimied at tackling organised crime?

    No it's the one aimed at taking your civil rights away and detaining you on a hunch. 2 guys betting on frog jumping could be considerd orgnaised crime if they didn't have a gambling licence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    ....awaits Run_To_Da_Hills.....
    :)
    Should we be worried?, it includes such classics as including secret detention hearings and detention on the unsupported word of a single Guard.

    I know why there trying to bringing it in but some of it seems very suspect, have they taken a leaf out of the CIA handbook on this one?
    Links? :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Links? :rolleyes:

    You managed to give em the slip then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    he's probably working for them now, be carefull what you say..

    somebody check his bum and see is it ok.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    :)

    Links? :rolleyes:

    PDF - Wearing a boiler suit or smoking a spiff is enough to see you go down : )

    http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2009/4509/b4509d.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    PDF - Wearing a boiler suit or smoking a spiff is enough to see you go down : )

    http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2009/4509/b4509d.pdf

    Was that not always the case? I don't think I've ever seen anyone walk around a town openly toking on a joint regardless of garda presence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Was that not always the case? I don't think I've ever seen anyone walk around a town openly toking on a joint regardless of garda presence
    You don't need to be toking or skinning up in front of a Garda Presence to be arrested. They can now watch you on sophisticated surveillance CCTV and follow it up. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Was that not always the case? I don't think I've ever seen anyone walk around a town openly toking on a joint regardless of garda presence

    can't say i've seen many lads in boiler suits either...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    You don't need to be toking or skinning up in front of a Garda Presence to be arrested. They can now watch you on sophisticated surveillance CCTV and follow it up. :eek:

    would you be safe if you've got your lad in your hand, surley they have to swith channels when they see any nudey bits...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Does anyone else think that if we could hear Run_to_da_Hills reading his posts aloud his voice would change from a little girls into a gruff Military voice halfway through?

    "Sincerely,
    Little Girl Run_to_da_Hills"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    great idea about time these pricks were targetted properly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Does anyone else think that if we could hear Run_to_da_Hills reading his posts aloud his voice would change from a little girls into a gruff Military voice halfway through?

    "Sincerely,
    Little Girl Run_to_da_Hills"

    Only if they loosen the vice on his nuts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    They can now watch you on sophisticated surveillance CCTV and follow it up. :eek:
    I'm not worried. I make a point of not skinning up in front of CCTV cameras anyway because when I wanna get high I get oh so shy.

    It is disgraceful though - what will they do next, make hash illegal?! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    The old expression "three is a crowd" can now be changed to "Three is a criminal gang" when this bill is passed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    I suppose it's better than "Three is a terrorist sleeper cell"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Wertz wrote: »
    I suppose it's better than "Three is a terrorist sleeper cell"
    It will be ammended to this when the EU Parlament takes over. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Uve nothing to worry about if ur a model citizen.

    And this piece of drivel will be the biggest load of bullsh!t you will ever here...

    Crawl out of your hole and live a little will you? Your mind is distorted by the media etc etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Absolutely delighted and even more delighted to see that it pissed off The Irish Council for Civil Liberties. Bunch of twats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    It would make that much of a difference to the normal citizen.The Gardai are not going to waste their time pulling you up on every little thing you do wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    It will be ammended to this when the EU Parlament takes over. :D

    Jesus, even when we agree on stuff i still can't help but wish you'd just go away.

    Also "no difference to the normal citizen", what a load of asinine bollocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Should we be worried?, it includes such classics as including secret detention hearings and detention on the unsupported word of a single Guard.

    I think we should be very worried ...McBrearty case, anyone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Yeah you're potentially well f*cked if a guard or group of guards take a personal dislike to you for some reason. At least when it was special criminal court for subversives, it was the word of a senior garda (super intendent?)...now any fresh faced rookie out of Templemore can convict you, in theory.

    No-one is saying we don't have a substantial organised crime problem in this country but legislation like this is thin end of the wedge stuff...


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