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PUAs in Dublin

  • 21-06-2009 04:57PM
    #1
    tracyharris
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6 ✭


    Has anybody come accross any of these PUAs?

    Found this hilarious. Stephen Nolan, a wexford hurler is trying to set up a company teaching PUA (pick up artist) techniques. This video is a video of Nolan and a friend showcasing their "talents". Its funny because they are so stupid but think they are actually good. Watch for yourself. I found it here

    http://adventuresofacurlygirl.wordpr.../nuclear-boyz/

    And here is the hilarity. Watch them make fools of themselves...

    http://www.motionbox.com/videos/7a9fdfb21e19e9caf5

    As a girl I find this stuff incredibly thick and insulting!


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  • #2
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055363337


  • #3
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What a bunch of fcuking tits


  • #4
    sunnyjim
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    The lads in that video remind me instantly of charicatures of Ross O'Carroll Kelly characters, which is really saying something.


  • #5
    Pop's Diner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭Pop's Diner


    tracyharris wrote: »
    http://www.motionbox.com/videos/7a9fdfb21e19e9caf5

    As a girl I find this stuff incredibly thick and insulting!

    As a member of the human race I find that stuff incredibly thick and insulting.

    I can't be sure which of the 3 of them is going to go blind first from chronic masturbation brought on by inevitable lonliness, but I'll guess the tit in the rugby shirt.


  • #6
    Michellenman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    These chaps have actually tried this on me and some friends. They're friends of people I kind of know and we ended up at the same party once. They're even bigger douches in person.




    And no. It didn't work.


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  • #7
    JC 2K3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    tracyharris wrote: »
    As a girl I find this stuff incredibly thick and insulting!
    Why?


  • #8
    Dumbledore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Dumbledore


    I think there is a lot of unnecessary hating on the whole PUA method. I don't consider myself a PUA but I have a fair idea of the idea behind the method. And through it, I learned about NLP which changed my life. These guys are piss-poor though, that is plain to see. Far too forward and their body language gives everything away. Also the game is designed to work only on superhot girls who have really high ego's or "bitch shields". The idea is to show you are not impressed by them and by doing so, distinguishing yourself from the rest of the guys. It is based on the classic principal the everybody wants what they can not have.

    People who don't know anything about it, are obviously sceptical, but there is plenty of evidence to show that the method actually works when used correctly, just check out some footage of Mystery or Style pulling unbelievably hot women. But it seems very nerdy and loserish to outsiders, probably the ones who are too insecure to try it themselves and look like they are making an effort. These are often the same guys who sit in front of the t.v. the whole time sipping beer, and expecting some hot model to arrive at the door and want to have sex with them. That is what is really sad if you ask me.

    Overall, I think that anybody trying to improve themselves should be encouraged and commended, those who follow the "just be yourself" attitude are the ones who will lose out in the long run.


  • #9
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Dumbledore wrote: »
    I think there is a lot of unnecessary hating on the whole PUA method. I dont consider myself a PUA but I have a fair idea of the idea behind the method. And through it, I learned about NLP which changed my life.

    I dunno about the whole NLP thing tbh, its basically admitting to needing to brainwash people in order for them to like you, until ultimately you brainwash yourself into thinking thats the case.

    load of dung imo


  • #10
    Size=everything
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Size=everything


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    The lads in that video remind me instantly of charicatures of Ross O'Carroll Kelly characters, which is really saying something.

    Even though they are all from outside Dublin? They remind me of typical boggers to be honest.


  • #11
    Dumbledore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Dumbledore


    My name is URL wrote: »
    I dunno about the whole NLP thing to be honest, its basically admitting to needing to brainwash people in order for them to like you, until ultimately you brainwash yourself into thinking that's the case.

    load of dung imo

    OK, you admit to not knowing much about it, yet go on to make unfounded claims about brainwashing. All I learned from NLP is a higher level of communication, aswell as how to see the positives in everything. I used it in my recent interview for a job this summer, and the interviewer told me I was the best interviewee he has ever had in ten years in the job. It really improved my ability to talk to strangers and to be easygoing, aswell as giving me a much better outlook on life than I had before. I would personally recommend it to anybody.

    p.s. URL you are one of my favourite posters on this forum, just thought Id let you know ;)


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  • #12
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Dumbledore wrote: »
    OK, you admit to not knowing much about it, yet go on to make unfounded claims about brainwashing. All I learned from NLP is a higher level of communication, aswell as how to see the positives in everything. I used it in my recent interview for a job this summer, and the interviewer told me I was the best interviewee he has ever had in ten years in the job. It really improved my ability to talk to strangers and to be easygoing, aswell as giving me a much better outlook on life than I had before. I would personally recommend it to anybody.

    p.s. URL you are one of my favourite posters on this forum, just thought Id let you know ;)

    http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/5/20/128873104225693290.jpg

    =p


  • #13
    poisonated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭poisonated


    Dumbledore wrote: »

    p.s. URL you are one of my favourite posters on this forum, just thought Id let you know ;)

    hey
    I dont mean to but in but that is the NLP thing is it??...sorry I am a little slow:D


  • #14
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I've nothing to add to this thread but to say Magnolia is a must see film.

    Tom Cruise at his best!


  • #15
    Red Hand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    mikemac wrote: »
    I've nothing to add to this thread but to say Magnolia is a must see film.

    Tom Cruise at his best!

    And Magnesiumn is atomic number 12. Mag-nes-i-um.


  • #16
    suspectpackage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭suspectpackage


    Dumbledore wrote: »
    I think there is a lot of unnecessary hating on the whole PUA method. I don't consider myself a PUA but I have a fair idea of the idea behind the method. And through it, I learned about NLP which changed my life. These guys are piss-poor though, that is plain to see. Far too forward and their body language gives everything away. Also the game is designed to work only on superhot girls who have really high ego's or "bitch shields". The idea is to show you are not impressed by them and by doing so, distinguishing yourself from the rest of the guys. It is based on the classic principal the everybody wants what they can not have.

    People who don't know anything about it, are obviously sceptical, but there is plenty of evidence to show that the method actually works when used correctly, just check out some footage of Mystery or Style pulling unbelievably hot women. But it seems very nerdy and loserish to outsiders, probably the ones who are too insecure to try it themselves and look like they are making an effort. These are often the same guys who sit in front of the t.v. the whole time sipping beer, and expecting some hot model to arrive at the door and want to have sex with them. That is what is really sad if you ask me.

    Overall, I think that anybody trying to improve themselves should be encouraged and commended, those who follow the "just be yourself" attitude are the ones who will lose out in the long run.


    Good post.

    I've read The Game and looked at some PUA videos but I think its all a load of sh*t. What type of person needs techniques to talk to women? I agree that the guys in this video are beyond piss poor. Was interesting because I know who they are because I recognized the bogger from an artical I read. They have a website teaching these PUA stuff I believe. I wouldn't hang out with any of them. And its no surprise to hear from a woman on this thread that they are even bigger douches in person. The video was very very cringe worthy.


  • #17
    Blarggggh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Blarggggh


    I've also read the Game and I have to say it has really worked for me. 19 and clicking with smoking hot 23 year olds. High five


  • #18
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Blarggggh wrote: »
    I've also read the Game and I have to say it has really worked for me. 19 and clicking with smoking hot 23 year olds. High five

    This should be stickied as a warning against this sort of thing, imo

    lest we forget


  • #19
    NickNolte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭NickNolte


    Dumbledore wrote: »
    But it seems very nerdy and loserish to outsiders, probably the ones who are too insecure to try it themselves and look like they are making an effort.

    ...and others just look down their noses at these pathetic, socially incomplete, mentally retarded losers.


  • #20
    Dumbledore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Dumbledore


    NickNolte wrote: »
    ...and others just look down their noses at these pathetic, socially incomplete, mentally retarded losers.

    Thats not a generalisation at all......:rolleyes:

    I would be willing to bet anything that you have no idea about the seduction community, and think anyone who is into it is a total loser. Of course, anything is possible when you don't know what your talking about.

    I bet you are one of the fools who is just waiting for "the right woman" to walk right into your life, laughing nervously at anybody who decides to make themselves better and go out and experience life, saying they are "mentally retarded losers".

    The classic example of an insecure half-wit, find something different about a group of people and slag them mercilessly for it in the hope that nobody notices you are different too.


  • #21
    NickNolte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭NickNolte


    Dumbledore wrote: »
    Thats not a generalisation at all......

    Ah, the old 'generalisation' defence.
    Dumbledore wrote: »
    I would be willing to bet anything that you have no idea about the seduction community

    The 'seduction community'? Oh dear lord.
    Dumbledore wrote: »
    I bet you are one of the fools who is just waiting for "the right woman" to walk right into your life

    No. I'm engaged. I met my fiancé without reading any self-help books or brainwashing her with NLP.
    Dumbledore wrote: »
    laughing nervously at anybody who decides to make themselves better and go out and experience life, saying they are "mentally retarded losers".

    Experience life? I think you're the victim of your own sad little community. I already have a life so I don't feel the need to 'improve' myself by reading books which contain skewed views on women that make me feel comfortable about my own social incompetence.

    I don't know what part of "not every guy has a history of failure with women like you" it is that PUA's just don't seem to get.
    Dumbledore wrote: »
    The classic example of an insecure half-wit

    Me? I don't need self-help books or a community of social rejects to build up my confidence. Now I'm not saying that there's anything inherently wrong with this PUA sub-culture - I just think it's a bit pathetic that it needs to exist in the first place to help men to try and have successful relationships with women. If it makes guys more confident then that's a good thing. I just think it's a very sad way of having to go about it.


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  • #22
    mardybumbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    Dumbledore wrote: »
    All I learned from NLP is a higher level of communication, aswell as how to see the positives in everything.

    When are you going to apply your NLP skills to "The Debate" ?


  • #23
    Sofaspud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    I read The Game, I thought it was a good read, and an interesting book altogether.

    It also made me realise how sad a lot of people in the world are, but I didn't think anybody in the "real world" was sad enough to put all that crap into practice. Until I heard an acquaintance of mine telling another acquaintance how to successfully win over a girl at a party, using "game" (there was another guy there, so he actually used the phrase "that's called a 2 set"), I asked him if he was using PUA crap, he seemed impressed that I knew what he was talking about and pleased that someone else had read this book. Until I told him what I thought of him.
    I instantly lost any respect I ever had for him, and told him so, while telling him how pathetic I thought he was.

    What these "PUA"s fail to realise, it's not THEM that's seducing people, it's nothing to do with the person themselves, a lot of the time they're using scripts, routines, acts that they've learned from others.
    They generally pretend to be someone they're not to pick up women, yet they still see it as an accomplishment?

    The mind boggles.


  • #24
    JC 2K3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    NickNolte wrote: »
    If it makes guys more confident then that's a good thing. I just think it's a very sad way of having to go about it.
    What's a better way to go about it?

    The vast majority of (successful) guys use PUA techniques when chatting up women, some just don't realise they're doing it, i.e. it comes naturally to them.

    Why it's suddenly pathetic if a guy learns how to chat up women as opposed to it just coming to him naturally, I don't understand.


  • #25
    General Zod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭General Zod


    I think it's more that PUA are using common sense techniques rather than the other way around.


    That's all well and good, but the whole "secudtion" community is a load of ****e. Lads and lassies have been getting laid for years without the need of "seduction techniques". It's only one step up on the ladder from wearing pheremones.


  • #26
    thedizzler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭thedizzler


    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    What's a better way to go about it?

    The vast majority of (successful) guys use PUA techniques when chatting up women, some just don't realise they're doing it, i.e. it comes naturally to them.

    Why it's suddenly pathetic if a guy learns how to chat up women as opposed to it just coming to him naturally, I don't understand.

    It's painfully simple. When a natural does something that's natural to him, technique or not, it's authentic, it's original, it's his real self. His real self is attractive in that way, it's congruent with the rest of him.
    When a rAFC, or wannabe PUA, does it, it's canned material, it's a technique he read online that he's just repeating ad nauseum. It's not himself, it's someone else. It's not congruent with the rest of him, and furthermore, he can't gain confidence from it, cause the guy who's picking up is not really him, and not using his real personality.
    At heart, he still feels like a failure with women, but when his tactics work to pull a "10", and he stays with her, it gets worse.
    He feels he doesn't deserve her, cause he didn't really pick her up, the game did, so he has to devalue her to stay in the relationship. This is, afterall, the basic principle of the game, it's a natural and normal reaction to the situation.
    But after a while he devalues her so much, she leaves, probably breaking both of their hearts, and he's back at the beginning again, no happier, no wiser, and no better with women.
    That can't be uplifting to you.


  • #27
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    If it works at all, I reckon at least half the time it's because the blokes are told to go up to as many women as possible. It's a numbers game. 50% of the people in the world are women. Thems good odds. Indeed if a guy has trouble meeting or getting a woman over an extended period of time, then the fault lays at his feet. Become more interesting in life and you'll become more interesting to men and women. Talk to everyone. Get over your social shyness as much as possible. Unless it's actually pathological and a genuine social anxiety, then in most cases IMHO shyness is just being self indulgent.

    It also gets guys over the worry of talking to women at all if its dressed up as a "method". Some guys like the A B C approach. Then they get caught up in it. Then a woman becomes all women and vice versa.

    Then the PUA trainer guys themselves. Most of whom are ok looking if not good looking men. Of course they're going to get a return, especially if they're approaching a gansy load TM of women.


    300 quid for a seminar though? Sheesh. Opening there I reckon. I'll charge 250 quid so guys can follow me around of a night out. I'll call it the "Do the complete bloody opposite of what I do method". I'll even throw in a free pint.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #28
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    thedizzler wrote: »
    At heart, he still feels like a failure with women, but when his tactics work to pull a "10", and he stays with her, it gets worse.
    He feels he doesn't deserve her, cause he didn't really pick her up, the game did, so he has to devalue her to stay in the relationship. This is, afterall, the basic principle of the game, it's a natural and normal reaction to the situation.
    But after a while he devalues her so much, she leaves, probably breaking both of their hearts, and he's back at the beginning again, no happier, no wiser, and no better with women.
    That can't be uplifting to you.
    Actually that bit I would agree with is the area that needs work. Getting a woman is easy enough. Keeping a woman is the trick. Same with love. Falling in love is easy and comes naturally to most, staying in love requires work and is nowhere near as easy. Same goes for women and men actually, though as women tend to have more options in general they do have it slightly easier.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #29
    Scootay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭Scootay


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Getting a woman is easy enough. Keeping a woman is the trick.
    Perhaps the secret of the "trick" is to "get" a woman you like for who she is and who likes you for who you are instead of sticking her in a box with a stupid label and acting in a certain way to try and be attractive to her.

    This stuff isn't rocket science. Women are just people and treating them as such was the only "trick" I ever needed.


  • #30
    raptorman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭raptorman


    Not meaning to be crude, but isnt the whole idea of the method it get laid? People are going on about it not really being the person themselves and how sad it it etc.
    Its about pulling a gorgeous girl and getting her into bed! Its not a self help book about being a better more confident version of yourself.


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  • #31
    battser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭battser


    Wibbs wrote: »
    If it works at all, I reckon at least half the time it's because the blokes are told to go up to as many women as possible. It's a numbers game. 50% of the people in the world are women. Thems good odds. Indeed if a guy has trouble meeting or getting a woman over an extended period of time, then the fault lays at his feet. Become more interesting in life and you'll become more interesting to men and women. Talk to everyone. Get over your social shyness as much as possible. Unless it's actually pathological and a genuine social anxiety, then in most cases IMHO shyness is just being self indulgent.

    It also gets guys over the worry of talking to women at all if its dressed up as a "method". Some guys like the A B C approach. Then they get caught up in it. Then a woman becomes all women and vice versa.

    Then the PUA trainer guys themselves. Most of whom are ok looking if not good looking men. Of course they're going to get a return, especially if they're approaching a gansy load TM of women.


    300 quid for a seminar though? Sheesh. Opening there I reckon. I'll charge 250 quid so guys can follow me around of a night out. I'll call it the "Do the complete bloody opposite of what I do method". I'll even throw in a free pint.

    Hits it on the head here! Its a numbers game! And lets also remember (for those who have read the game) these lads are pulling this stuff out in America! I was in california in march and 100% of the girls I talked to wud fall for that ****e! American women are easy to chat up any irish bloke will agree with that who has been over. Irish women are a different Breed!!!! Thats why I love the Irish women they have personality!


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