Legal Party Pills

yellowstar · 21-06-2009 04:33PM

legal pills are evil.....evil I tell you. You may never sleep again. Though I did think I was seeing fairies and yea had the attention span of a goldfish.

Next day and night another story have never had a skag like it horrible horrible horrrible!! Also really affects your heart more than real ones. A couple of friends have had really bad experiences, stick to real ones!

Pat Sheen · 21-06-2009 04:35PM

[Core] wrote: »

Doubtful -- LSA is a precursor to LSD and is Class A in Britain, Schedule III in the USA. I don't know about here, though.

EDIT: You CAN buy the seeds, but I don't think you can have it in a concentrated form.

Our drug legislation is a direct cut and paste of UK legislation almost WORD FOR WORD. That's just f*cking embarassing. Not only do we have stupid drug laws but we have stupid drug laws that we copied over the shoulder of the UK. sneakerfreak I can assure you bzp is BANNED. It's not banned in the UK because like I said they have to have a recommendation from the ACMD first. They have done that so it will be soon. edit:BTW what checks and balances does the minister of health face in this country before they can add new drugs to the statute. I mean it's supposed to be a democracy is it not? Remember how quick shrooms were banned?

Snowie · 21-06-2009 04:38PM

Dragan wrote: »

As in people who take them end up doing things like leaving entire words out of posts?:pac:

words ??? thats quite minor I lost about a week once dunno what happened I went out to see lisa lash's and A week later I woke up in my bed fully clothed and no recolection of where id been or what id done only lots of tickets for night clubs and a nodge of dope in my jonny pocket...

and a very empty bank account...

Graham_B18C · 21-06-2009 04:40PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

words ??? thats quite minor I lost about a week once dunno what happened I went out to see lisa lash's and A week later I woke up in my bed fully clothed and no recolection of where id been or what id done only lots of tickets for night clubs and a nodge of dope in my jonny pocket... and a very empty bank account...

A week? Find that very hard to belive

sneakerfreak · 21-06-2009 04:43PM

BZP was marketed as an E alternative in many places although its effects are actually closer to amphetamines with a hint of LSD.
It was marketed lately as an alternative to methamphetamine in New Zealand (currently the market leaders in legal highs and alternative psychoactives) where they had a serious problem with health and addiction due to this substance.
http://www.stanz.org.nz/

Most 'Street Pills' these days which are sold as Ecstasy do not even contain MDMA,they more commonly contain mcPP as the active ingredient.It is a legal Piperazine from the same family as BZP/TFMPP/pFPP/meOPP and other drugs like Viagras active ingredient.mcPP is the drug you are experiencing when you feel anxious and nauseous and feel that directionless 'push' where you feel you need to do something but dont quite know what exactly it is you should be doing.It has never to my knowledge ever even been used in Legal Highs due to its 'skaggy' effects.

Heres a link with some info on mcPP http://www.drugpreventionevidence.info/web/mCPP322.asp

And another,there are loads to be found,some from police websites in England saying 80% of seized pills contain only mcPP.
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=11157

Snowie · 21-06-2009 04:49PM

Grahamo999 wrote: »

A week? Find that very hard to belive

have you ever been in a night club and had a conversation with a poster ?

Dragan · 21-06-2009 04:49PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

words ??? thats quite minor I lost about a week once dunno what happened I went out to see lisa lash's and A week later I woke up in my bed fully clothed and no recolection of where id been or what id done only lots of tickets for night clubs and a nodge of dope in my jonny pocket... and a very empty bank account...

Well, if i had gone to see Lisa Lash's i would be trying to block it out too.:pac:

Sneakerfreak, it's nice to see you posting some quality information here. Cheers.

sneakerfreak · 21-06-2009 04:50PM

Pat Sheen wrote: »

Our drug legislation is a direct cut and paste of UK legislation almost WORD FOR WORD. That's just f*cking embarassing. Not only do we have stupid drug laws but we have stupid drug laws that we copied over the shoulder of the UK. sneakerfreak I can assure you bzp is BANNED. It's not banned in the UK because like I said they have to have a recommendation from the ACMD first. They have done that so it will be soon. edit:BTW what checks and balances does the minister of health face in this country before they can add new drugs to the statute. I mean it's supposed to be a democracy is it not? Remember how quick shrooms were banned?

Have you seen any documentation of this?Not doubting you mate just wondering if you can find some.

Its still legal there yes mate but most vendors have removed it from sale AFAIK.

The banning of the mushrooms was a joke.Some unfortunate fellow died from injuries resulting from a fall and his death was used as a hollow excuse to ban one of the most fascinating and valuable naturally occuring substances in the world (albeit a substance to be treated with care).I would like to know what other substances were in his system at the time.Also why is it that people who are said to have died from hallucinogenics supposedly think they can fly and jump from heights?Surely if you can fly you can take off from the ground.
Please do not take this as an attack on the deceased or his family,I am merely pointing out media hysteria and their use of familys grief to further their sales of scaremongering comics commonly known as newspapers.

sneakerfreak · 21-06-2009 04:51PM

Dragan wrote: »

Well, if i had gone to see Lisa Lash's i would be trying to block it out too.:pac:

Sneakerfreak, it's nice to see you posting some quality information here. Cheers.

No problem mate and I agree on Lisa Lashes,Id rather eat my own shíte lol

Pat Sheen · 21-06-2009 04:51PM

sneakerfreak wrote: »

No
Morning Glory are Mushroom Spores which contain LSA (a naturally occuring hallucinogenic

Morning glory are not mushroom spores, they are the seeds of a popular ornamental plant. edit:and yes I have seen the legislation banning bzp. It is the only piperazine which has been banned.

Snowie · 21-06-2009 04:55PM

Dragan wrote: »

Well, if i had gone to see Lisa Lash's i would be trying to block it out too.:pac:

.

true but its who your with at the time

.......

I have seen left feild live twice so i redeam my self as well as underworld, orbital, james lavelle, stanton warriors plump djs, deep dish,
But the best act of dance music and drugs has to be Daft Punk my good can they rock a place.....

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 21-06-2009 05:02PM

Stay away from the legal ones. Easily the worst comedown i've ever had. horrid experience.
Illegal ones give a better high and genarally produce a nice glowy comedown, and it's usually not hard to sleep at all, depending on the quality of the mix. After a while you learn as you go from what symbol is etched on top of the tablet. 'Stars', are prob the best at the moment in my opinion.

Snowie · 21-06-2009 05:05PM

Quentin Damp Second wrote: »

Stay away from the legal ones. Easily the worst comedown i've ever had. horrid experience.
Illegal ones give a better high and genarally produce a nice glowy comedown, and it's usually not hard to sleep at all, depending on the quality of the mix. After a while you learn as you go from what symbol is etched on top of the tablet. 'Stars', are prob the best at the moment in my opinion.

did you find on the legal ones you felt like crap the next day ?

Oh and london underground are horrible !!!

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 21-06-2009 05:10PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

did you find on the legal ones you felt like crap the next day ?

Yeah definitely felt absolutely awful next day after legals.:( Hard to describe what a weird state of mind you get into. The sleep deprivation is the worst, almost like sleep paralysis or something. Whereas i had a illegal ones last night (taken responsibly of course!) and i feel fine now!

renraw · 21-06-2009 05:10PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

words ??? thats quite minor I lost about a week once dunno what happened I went out to see lisa lash's and A week later I woke up in my bed fully clothed and no recolection of where id been or what id done only lots of tickets for night clubs and a nodge of dope in my jonny pocket... and a very empty bank account...

Definitely believe ya...Been there, was only 3 days but that was a turning point for me. I've seen mates go on total benders 24/7. Dont know how they could afford it though

...and they're complete messes now

Snowie · 21-06-2009 05:16PM

Quentin Damp Second wrote: »

Yeah definitely felt absolutely awful next day after legals.:( Hard to describe what a weird state of mind you get into. The sleep deprivation is the worst, almost like sleep paralysis or something. Whereas i had a illegal ones last night (taken responsibly of course!) and i feel fine now!

Exactly the same i felt like death, awful, and again same experience got brown mdma, I was fine felt like my eyeballs where about to rexplode at one point but

.... but agian the come down was nice and easy !!!

renraw wrote: »

Definitely believe ya...Been there, was only 3 days but that was a turning point for me. I've seen mates go on total benders 24/7. Dont know how they could afford it though ...and they're complete messes now

Student loan

yep that was turning point for me really i don't take so many chemicals any more....well any to be truthfull barely drink now adays tho i had ten years off pure unadolterated selfishness.

ScumLord · 21-06-2009 05:16PM

Quentin Damp Second wrote: »

Stay away from the legal ones. Easily the worst comedown i've ever had. horrid experience.
Illegal ones give a better high and genarally produce a nice glowy comedown, and it's usually not hard to sleep at all, depending on the quality of the mix. After a while you learn as you go from what symbol is etched on top of the tablet. 'Stars', are prob the best at the moment in my opinion.

Those symbols mean nothing. I remember in my day double Cherrys where the best for a while, then you'd see them again maybe a year later and their completely different. After 6 months your best off ignoring the symbols that where good as they've probably been selling off crap ones on the reputation of that symbol.

renraw · 21-06-2009 05:22PM

There was a bad batch of mitsubishis going round waterford i think it was 2002 and a load of people ended up out in the hospital, some in the psych unit and others A & E. Their skin went into an elastic type state, where they could pull the skin inches away. Thank f*ck I was passed the stage at that point. That frightened the sh1te out of the scene in waterford. Whatever was in them was also causing catastrophic trips and a lot of people went on the missing list. Its always been a bad town for contaminated drugs.

sneakerfreak · 21-06-2009 05:22PM

Pat Sheen wrote: »

Morning glory are not mushroom spores, they are the seeds of a popular ornamental plant. edit:and yes I have seen the legislation banning bzp. It is the only piperazine which has been banned.

I stand corrected,thank you for the info,I hate to give out wrong information.

Quentin Damp Second wrote: »

Stay away from the legal ones. Easily the worst comedown i've ever had. horrid experience.
Illegal ones give a better high and genarally produce a nice glowy comedown, and it's usually not hard to sleep at all, depending on the quality of the mix. After a while you learn as you go from what symbol is etched on top of the tablet. 'Stars', are prob the best at the moment in my opinion.

These symbols or stamps can be sold on and mimicked,they no longer truly reflect the quality of the pill but I do admit that in the past they were quite definite indications of the quality of a pill.

After a pill has reached the peak of its popularity or when the manufacturer has ceased producing the quality stamped pill he/she will quite often sell the stamp on to another manufacturer who may be making pills with entirely different ingredients,also remember that the binding agents themselves in pills can be dangerous.

Also a professional pill press is very expensive,many producers of pills can pay to have their product pressed on just one press and so can carry the same stamp.Diffrent colours are just marketing,simple colourants are added to make them blue/green whatever,the same goes for speckles,speckles are in fact cheaper to produce as you just add less colourant.

sneakerfreak · 21-06-2009 05:24PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

did you find on the legal ones you felt like crap the next day ?

Oh and london underground are horrible !!!

Which ones?The BZP ones?

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 21-06-2009 05:27PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Those symbols mean nothing. I remember in my day double Cherrys where the best for a while, then you'd see them again maybe a year later and their completely different. After 6 months your best off ignoring the symbols that where good as they've probably been selling off crap ones on the reputation of that symbol.

to an extent yeah, a lot of it is trial and error it would be naive to think otherwise, but you can generally tell if there's a good batch still doing the rounds through word of mouth in clubs.

ScumLord · 21-06-2009 05:29PM

Quentin Damp Second wrote: »

to an extent yeah, a lot of it is trial and error it would be naive to think otherwise, but you can generally tell if there's a good batch still doing the rounds through word of mouth in clubs.

True you'd have to know someone that's tried them but it's still no guarantee. Crystallized mdma is your best bet for quality and cleanness. Pills will always have some muck put through them.

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 21-06-2009 05:33PM

ScumLord wrote: »

True you'd have to know someone that's tried them but it's still no guarantee. Crystallized mdma is your best bet for quality and cleanness. Pills will always have some muck put through them.

Agreed, too expensive though!

Snowie · 21-06-2009 05:35PM

sneakerfreak wrote: »

Which ones?The BZP ones?

Id dunno it was a while ago memoreys a bit foggy, i just remember being told they where london underground... sorry

Graham_B18C · 21-06-2009 05:37PM

ScumLord wrote: »

True you'd have to know someone that's tried them but it's still no guarantee. Crystallized mdma is your best bet for quality and cleanness. Pills will always have some muck put through them.

Didn't know that it was slightly available in Ireland. Always at it in skins!

Snowie · 21-06-2009 05:44PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Crystallized mdma is your best bet for quality and cleanness. Pills will always have some muck put through them.

That stuff is just blowing in a good way..

Grahamo999 wrote: »

Didn't know that it was slightly available in Ireland. Always at it in skins!

anything is available if you know the right people! I'm not trying to come across as a pretentious wanker but, its a fact its not what you know its who you no....

Pat Sheen · 21-06-2009 05:49PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Crystallized mdma is your best bet for quality and cleanness. Pills will always have some muck put through them.

Doesn't matter if it's powder or pills, you have no idea what's really in it. How could you unless you happen to have a GC/MS machine knocking about your garage. Thats one of the more despicable practises that the legal pill makers have copied from the illegal ones, zero transparency.

sneakerfreak · 21-06-2009 05:50PM

ScumLord wrote: »

True you'd have to know someone that's tried them but it's still no guarantee. Crystallized mdma is your best bet for quality and cleanness. Pills will always have some muck put through them.

Yes.

Quentin Damp Second wrote: »

Agreed, too expensive though!

You are talking about your health here but then again I have been known to frequent McDonalds on occasion

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Id dunno it was a while ago memoreys a bit foggy, i just remember being told they where london underground... sorry

No probs mate,London Underground now provide a very nice range of alternatives to BZP.

ScumLord · 21-06-2009 05:53PM

Grahamo999 wrote: »

Didn't know that it was slightly available in Ireland. Always at it in skins!

I actually haven't had a pill in years. I've only come across mdma lately, I won't take pills though and that known so I'm only ever offered the other stuff. It's rare enough maybe only coming around once every month or two but it's better that way.

Snowie · 21-06-2009 05:55PM

sneakerfreak wrote: »

No probs mate,London Underground now provide a very nice range of alternatives to BZP.

I think Il try not to be at that any more would love to but....... I haven't taken any drugs in 10 months which is good going for me and I would like to keep it that way

tho I miss it

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