Legal Party Pills

mates have....
some are ok some are crap...
i only really drink though....thing that pisses me off.... in my area its easier to get hash than it is to get beer...

and i stay away from that crap

apparently they make you puke like a mo fo,never tried them myself,but ive never heard any good stories about them

@grahamo999

Sorry that's nonsense IMO....now bear in mind I've only done BZP/party pills once, and once was more than enough.
If I could describe it as being the worst alcohol hangover I've ever had, in terms of headache and upset stomach, alongside the lack of sleep that preceded, I wouldn't be doing it justice. I still felt "dirty" 2 days afterwards.
Contrast that with a stint during the 90's of about 8 years of almost constant clubbing and doing pills every weekend, with all that that entailed....sure, I had some bad comedowns, sleepless nights, racing pulse, the "horrors", depressive mondays and the like but nothing compared with the one time late last year that I thought party pills might be a good idea...and like I've said before, the MDMA high is almost worth the comedown (but probably not worth dying over).

I don't bother with pills these days, simply because the facilities to enjoy yourself on them (decent clubs, music, surroundings, people) aren't as widespread as they once were and you get f*cked out of almost anywhere for loooking like you're doing anything but buying and imbibing overpriced alcohol. Outdoor festivals are about the only place I bother doing E now...


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renraw I'm not calling you out...I heard, believed and spread the same rumours about brown speckled doves way back when as well....it's was our way of explaining the loved out feeling, you had terms like skagging and being smacked out of it (both terms for heroin) that were used to describe the initial comedown from E, when your body is just knackered from all the dancing and such. Stuff like jaw stuck out and the gurning, eye rolling, teeth grinding....all that is solely down to MDMA and it's derivatives and I've found that in recent years, those effects are less pronounced (unless you do loads) so the guys making them are obviously putting less of the good stuff into em...
I was definitely addicted to the whole scene when I was at it, but heroin addict I was not...I think I'd have known and going by a few people I know from back then that went on to be junkies, we were never even close to looking or being anything like smackheads.

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Just to add, someone has come on to this forum looking for advice on acquiring and taking legal highs and I've turned around and recommended they go the illegal route. I don;'t know what age this person is, what their history of use of substances is or much else about them. In my honest opinion, I have to say that if you're not yet an adult or ahve low experience of insobriety then the best thing you can do is avoid botht he legal and the illegal stuff. If you must have some then try and do it with friends and people you trust, don't take too much and never be afriad to tell someone if you think thiongs aren't going okay or you feel unwell.

My name is URL wrote: »

fwiw, comparing ecstasy to legal pills etc is ludicrous imo. They don't have the same mechanism of action at all. Legal pills work more like LSD, in fact LSA is found in many of them.

I wouldn't go near ecstasy, personally

Doubtful -- LSA is a precursor to LSD and is Class A in Britain, Schedule III in the USA. I don't know about here, though.

EDIT: You CAN buy the seeds, but I don't think you can have it in a concentrated form.

Grahamo999 wrote: »

Is that what they put in them instead of BZP now?

No
Morning Glory are Mushroom Spores which contain LSA (a naturally occuring hallucinogenic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_amide

A natural LSD if you like.You can buy it in most shops in Ireland including Dunnes Stores and Tescos,they are used in cooking.

renraw wrote: »

I don't know if many people know this but in a lot of MDMA, the speckled ones (with yellow dots) is actually opium based, not sure if its heroin or whatever and the with traces of rat poision, methinks the head shop ones are probably more dangerous. I shudder to think of the mission I was on in my rave days and if the head shop one's were around at the time, they probably would have prevented me from ever touching pills. But, the memories are well worth it cause I had the best nights ever

Total nonsense mate,I remember being told the same years ago.

BZP as far as I know is not even banned,I have never seen the legislation and the only proof we have is that the newspapers wrote articles saying it was banned but it has most definitely been removed from all the shops.

Legal Pills do still exist but do not contain BZP.

DMAA also known as Geranamine is to be found in some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geranamine
Its popular with bodybuilders and often mixed with caffeine to reduce the euphoria so that it can be used more efficiently for energy for a longer/harder workout.

TFMPP is still legal (very mild on its own and in the right doses)
pFPP is still legal (nothing great,can make you laugh uncontrollably though)
meOPP is still legal (very very mild love buzz and body tingling,no comedown whatsoever.)
They can never ban everything that gets you high,there are always ways of achieving it.They should focus on regulating it,making it safer with controls and taxing it to make money.

By the way if you want to learn about drugs legal or illegal there is this thing called the internet where all this information can be found and if you use it for a while you can tell the difference between valid information and disinformation/scaremongering.

For insights into drugs and their history/culture visit the likes of http://www.erowid.org/
or
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/index.php

If you feel that drugs are affecting you in an adverse way or you have become addicted to a substance and need help or advise please visit
http://www.na.org/

If some people dont do drugs thats fine but they shouldnt be able to tell me I cant as its my choice as long as I am harming no one else.

BTW why hasnt Harney banned Alcohol which kills thousands every year and ruins families,one of the worst drugs ever IMO (Im totally addicted to it btw lol).Tobacco is still legal and it doesnt even get you high (again im an addict).

Think of all the people languishing in jail for non-violent drug crimes like possesion of cannabis etc,its a waste of money and it turns citizens into criminals.

Anyway Im off topic,please inform and educate yourselves if you are going to take something and think twice about calling for things to be banned just because you dont like them.I absolutely hate motorbikes,my brother was killed on one,yet they are available once you are of a certain age and have passed certain tests and most are capable of going way faster than our highest speed limits-But I dont call for them to be banned.Its your choice what you do once youre old enough.