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Autistic boy locked in toilet

  • 18-06-2009 10:16PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭


    to do that to a vulnerable child and damage his development
    the carer should be hung.

    I rarely get as angry as I did when I read this
    what a selfish bitch.


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0618/berrya.html


    An autistic boy who was left alone in a house and locked in a toilet has been awarded €50,000 in damages at the High Court.

    The court heard that Alex Berry, who was aged 11 at the time, was severely distressed and traumatised after the incident and suffered a regression in behaviour.

    Through his father Peter Berry, from Coolatree Park in Beaumont in Dublin, he sued the Health Service Executive, the care worker and Northside Home Care Services Limited.
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    This morning the High Court approved a settlement of €50,000, which was made without admission of liability.

    The High Court was told that the boy's father saw his care worker walking away from her home when she was supposed to be caring for his son.

    He drove to her home and saw her return and free his son from a toilet under the stairs.

    Approving the settlement Mr Justice John Quirke said it was 'absolutely scandalous' behaviour.

    He said it was a very good settlement and hoped the parties responsible understood what they did.

    It was an absolutely dreadful thing to do, he said.

    Mr John Fox BL for the parents told the court that the HSE provided home support for the plaintiff's family at the carer's own home through a funding arrangement with Northside Home Care Services.

    The carer was employed as a home help for the boy for 15 hours per week.

    She had been engaged by NHCS in this task for two and a half years preceding May 2005.

    Alex was entirely dependent on the carer during his stay at her premises and his condition meant he could not be left alone and required adult supervision at all times.

    In a statement of claim, it was submitted that on 3 May 2005 the carer collected Alex from his maternal-grandmother's home at 11am at Castletimon Road and brought him to her own home at Larchill, Santry.

    Peter Berry observed her walking away from Larchill at 3.45pm on 3 May 2005.

    He was concerned that his son was not with her and he drove to her home and as he knocked on the door of the house he observed the carer unlocking the toilet door under the stairs to release Alex.

    He said the boy was in a very distressed state.

    The HSE denied it was negligent or in breach of duty.

    It claimed that the incident occurred because of the negligence and breach of duty of Northside Home Care Services and held that the carer, Siobhan Quinn, caused or permitted herself to conduct her duties in a grossly negligent and irresponsible manner.

    Northside Home Care Services, in denying the claims, conceded it employed Ms Quinn but denied the allegation that it was negligent or in breach of duty.

    It claimed that if Alex was caused to suffer personal injury
    it was caused or occasioned by reason of the unlawful actions of Ms Quinn who was solely and exclusively liable in respect of the alleged incident.
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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    The claim was submitted in 2005 and it's only being finalized now?

    Our courts system is a mess


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Ah feck it. I probably would have done the same if he was wreckin my buzz.


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    WindSock wrote: »
    Ah feck it. I probably would have done the same if he was wreckin my buzz.


    ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    mikemac wrote: »
    The claim was submitted in 2005 and it's only being finalized now?

    Our courts system is a mess

    No priorities at all.

    Horrible article to read though. Poor kid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    WindSock wrote: »
    Ah feck it. I probably would have done the same if he was wreckin my buzz.

    Oh dear.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    No doubt the care worker is still "caring" for others, what do they have to do in the HSE to actually get the sack?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,813 ✭✭✭TPD


    Nasty thing to do all right but I dont really think the carer deserves to be hanged. Fired I could understand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Tannylan


    ....

    Are you autistic as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭waraf


    What's the jazz with the HSE paying out on claims like these without admitting liability? Surely the fact that they've paid out is an admission of liability in itself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Tannylan wrote: »
    Are you autistic as well

    Why would you post that? Seriously. If you've got nothing better to say then don't come trolling in what is a serious thread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Tannylan


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Why would you post that? Seriously. If you've got nothing better to say then don't come trolling in what is a serious thread.

    a serious thread :DIn After Hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Tannylan wrote: »
    Are you autistic as well

    Wapner. Wapner. Yeah, three minutes to Wapner...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Tannylan wrote: »
    a serious thread :DIn After Hours

    Yes. A serious thread. And yes in After Hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Tannylan


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Yes. A Autistic thread. And yes in After Hours.

    Fixed that for you


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tannylan wrote: »
    Are you autistic as well

    Brilliant post! :rolleyes:


    It's a terrible story and the "carer" (and I use that term lightly) should be disgusted with herself.




    Tannylan wrote: »
    Fixed that for you

    It would be "an", not "a".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Tannylan wrote: »
    Fixed that for you

    So do you not class autism as serious or do you class it as something you can rip the piss out of?

    Wow isn't it great that you're so perfect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Tannylan


    Wow THANKS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Tannylan wrote: »
    Wow THANKS

    Learn to accept sarcasm will you. For your benefit I will now use the :rolleyes: to indicate my sarcasm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,575 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    WindSock wrote: »
    Ah feck it. I probably would have done the same if he was wreckin my buzz.

    And that from a (?)mod(/)

    way to go there champ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Tannylan


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Learn to accept sarcasm will you. For your benefit I will now use the :rolleyes: to indicate my sarcasm.

    Pretty Please


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    I couldn't believe this when I heard it on the news, what kind of animal is the 'carer'?
    Poor kid probably went through untold distress from it.
    Maybe I'm being too optimistic but I genuinely thought that things like this shouldn't happen in this day & age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Tannylan wrote: »
    Pretty Please

    Fool. <
    See that? It was genuine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭Trinity


    Saw it on the news, dreadful stuff

    am a bit confused by the following though

    "Peter Berry observed her walking away from Larchill at 3.45pm on 3 May 2005.

    He was concerned that his son was not with her and he drove to her home and as he knocked on the door of the house he observed the carer unlocking the toilet door under the stairs to release Alex"




    I live next to larch hill and its a gated estate, if he saw her walking away from her home and drove straight up to the door of her home, how was she there unlocking him if she said she was leaving the estate in the same instance? :confused:

    Just a thought, he shouldnt have been locked in for any time at all. I had an offer of home help to help with my son and refused, glad now tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭Whosbetter?


    Ah Jaysus!
    Look lads, they're have always been ' 'difficult' kids.

    Im my time, they were called 'bold'.

    Now, there's no such thing as a bold child.

    It's learned behaviour from parent/s.

    I have a child that's termed ' difficult'.

    I fight fire with fire.

    Y'know what? It works!

    A bit of constructive cruellty works a long way.

    Too many do-gooders nowadays looking for excuses for bad behaviour for 'knacker parents'

    On the other hand, however, Autisim is one of those things I would hope I would never have to deal with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Ah Jaysus!
    Look lads, they're have always been ' 'difficult' kids.

    Im my time, they were called 'bold'.

    Now, there's no such thing as a bold child.

    It's learned behaviour from parent/s.

    I have a child that's termed ' difficult'.

    I fight fire with fire.

    Y'know what? It works!

    A bit of constructive cruellty works a long way.

    Too many do-gooders nowadays looking for excuses for bad behaviour for 'knacker parents'

    On the other hand, however, Autisim is one of those things I would hope I would never have to deal with.

    How is locking an autistic child in a toilet "constructive"? Especially when the child needed constant adult supervision at all times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Ah Jaysus!
    Look lads, they're have always been ' 'difficult' kids.

    Im my time, they were called 'bold'.

    Now, there's no such thing as a bold child.

    It's learned behaviour from parent/s.

    I have a child that's termed ' difficult'.

    I fight fire with fire.

    Y'know what? It works!

    A bit of constructive cruellty works a long way.

    Too many do-gooders nowadays looking for excuses for bad behaviour for 'knacker parents'

    On the other hand, however, Autisim is one of those things I would hope I would never have to deal with.

    The child has a severe enough form of autisim so I think it's more than being 'bold'.

    But I do agree with a lot of what you said but I'd substitute autisim for the infamous ADHD.
    I know people have ADHD & life can be difficult for them but a lot of upcoming criminals seem to use ADHD as a way to explain away why they were caught joyriding, robbing a granny etc.
    ADHD wasn't invented when I was growing up, or at least if it was it was kept under wraps for fear we would try & jump on the bandwagon, we were called 'bold' & got a slap on the arse.
    People 'claiming' to have ADHD make a mockery of it for people who do actually have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    WindSock wrote: »
    Ah feck it. I probably would have done the same if he was wreckin my buzz.
    Tannylan wrote: »
    Are you autistic as well

    Don't post in this thread again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,065 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    I couldn't believe this when I heard it on the news, what kind of animal is the 'carer'?

    I assumed human, the Pedobear would never have left the child alone.

    But terrible thing to happen as it was, although, like Trinity, I had no idea what that part was about.Doesn't make any sense


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭Trinity


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    The child has a severe enough form of autisim so I think it's more than being 'bold'.

    But I do agree with a lot of what you said but I'd substitute autisim for the infamous ADHD.
    I know people have ADHD & life can be difficult for them but a lot of upcoming criminals seem to use ADHD as a way to explain away why they were caught joyriding, robbing a granny etc.
    ADHD wasn't invented when I was growing up, or at least if it was it was kept under wraps for fear we would try & jump on the bandwagon, we were called 'bold' & got a slap on the arse.
    People 'claiming' to have ADHD make a mockery of it for people who do actually have it.


    I work for a child psychology team and i have to say i agree with your post

    too many labels out there, several people have asked me does my son have it and while he certainly has movement problems which leads him to be frustrated, at the end of the day hes still a bold little bollox that wasnt disciplined enough by his flakey mother

    i no longer ask for a happy meal at mcdonalds, i ask for an ungrateful little b*stard meal :P

    Anyway thats OT for whats been discussed, the childs diagnosis is not in question! Just thought i would echo your post on a general level


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    titan18 wrote: »
    I assumed human, the Pedobear would never have left the child alone.

    But terrible thing to happen as it was, although, like Trinity, I had no idea what that part was about.Doesn't make any sense
    Careful now.

    My cousin's child is autistic.
    I'm extremely close to him and I will not tolerate any piss taking about this subject.

    Yes, I am allowing my personal feelings to interfere with my moderating and I really don't give a flying **** what any of you think about that.

    No, I am not drunk.

    Anyone else taking the piss will be banned.


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