Global warming theories are a joke

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 04:14PM #1

Aa far as im concerned we won't be able to tell if we have impacted the earth's climate/atmosphere for at least a few thousand more years. In the past the world has dramatically cooled and warmed over the space of hundreds of years.

The lack of sun spots seems to be putting a huge dent in earths warming. Sun spots that were overly active for the past 15 years and possibly caused the recent warming we have had. The fact is we don't know so it is pointless flying in one direction when you don't know where you are or where you are going.

The best scientists said 30 years ago we were heading for an ice age, the best scientists nowdays say we are heading for a warm age. The truth is we won't know for hundreds of years because our understanding of climate is that of an infact. We have no clue about what causes the El Nino .

Global warming is a fad and the crazy resources that have been devoted to it should be devoted to other more important sciences. If we threw a few hundred billion towards Nuclear Fusion we'd sort out all the current problems currently aflicting it , instead we waste money on crap such as wind power which is completely unrealible at best.

Fink Goddie · 18-06-2009 04:16PM

I agree, its a load of sh111111111111te!

AnonoBoy · 18-06-2009 04:22PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Aa far as im concerned ....

That's where I stopped reading.

ScumLord · 18-06-2009 04:23PM

Global warming was a huge smoke screen to hide the real dangers of chemical dumping. They appeased the eco warriors and sent them off on a crusade against an essential gas that we have little effect on.

Toxic waste and chemical dumping into our rivers and oceans are having a much worse effect on the environment.

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 04:24PM

Sunspots were at their highest until recently and after they dropped to pretty much zero compared to previous times the earth has begun to cool
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3869753.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-missing-sunspots-is-this-the-big-chill-1674630.html

ronnie3585 · 18-06-2009 04:25PM

An Irish man, an English man and a Global Warming walk into a bar...

Smart Bug · 18-06-2009 04:30PM

I was going to write a serious reply to this thread but I couldn't really be orsed.

*sits back & chomps on popcorn instead

ScumLord · 18-06-2009 04:37PM

Smart Bug wrote: »

I was going to write a serious reply to this thread but I couldn't really be orsed.

*sits back & chomps on popcorn instead

Is it fresh popcorn? Not from concentrate?

Berty · 18-06-2009 04:38PM

Looking after the environment and buying Toyota Prius is all good and well when there is money to throw around.

Nobody cares anymore?

Do you think the government is still actually going to force us to change our lightbulbs any time soon?

My name is URL · 18-06-2009 04:39PM

Maybe the causes are mostly bullsh!t but the outcome will be the same whether it's a natural occurrence or caused by man.

I always think the argument about the cause is stupid when clearly we should be thinking about and planning for the outcome

davyjose · 18-06-2009 04:43PM

ronnie3585 wrote: »

An Irish man, an English man and a Global Warming walk into a bar...

Knock knock.

Who's there?

Global Warming Theories....

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 04:44PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Maybe the causes are mostly bullsh!t but the outcome will be the same whether it's a natural occurrence or caused by man.

I always think the argument about the cause is stupid when clearly we should be thinking about and planning for the outcome

But the point is we don't have a clue what the outcome is going to be. We understand the planet's climate as much as we understand the beginning of the universe.

Should we be planning for an ice age , global warming or are things going to stay exactly as they are?

AnonoBoy · 18-06-2009 04:49PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Should we be planning for an ice age , global warming or are thinks going to stay exactly as they are?

I think most people's thinks will not stay the same. People will change their opinion as the facts come out.

DTrotter · 18-06-2009 04:50PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Aa far as im concerned we won't be able to tell if we have impacted the earth's climate/atmosphere for at least a few thousand more years. In the past the world has dramatically cooled and warmed over the space of hundreds of years.

The lack of sun spots seems to be putting a huge dent in earths warming. Sun spots that were overly active for the past 15 years and possibly caused the recent warming we have had. The fact is we don't know so it is pointless flying in one direction when you don't know where you are or where you are going.

The best scientists said 30 years ago we were heading for an ice age, the best scientists nowdays say we are heading for a warm age. The truth is we won't know for hundreds of years because our understanding of climate is that of an infact. We have no clue about what causes the El Nino .

Global warming is a fad and the crazy resources that have been devoted to it should be devoted to other more important sciences. If we threw a few hundred billion towards Nuclear Fusion we'd sort out all the current problems currently aflicting it , instead we waste money on crap such as wind power which is completely unrealible at best.

How did the peer review go?

jaykay74 · 18-06-2009 04:55PM

DTrotter wrote: »

How did the peer review go?

as far as I'm concerned, badly...

liberal · 18-06-2009 04:55PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Aa far as im concerned we won't be able to tell if we have impacted the earth's climate/atmosphere for at least a few thousand more years. In the past the world has dramatically cooled and warmed over the space of hundreds of years.

The lack of sun spots seems to be putting a huge dent in earths warming. Sun spots that were overly active for the past 15 years and possibly caused the recent warming we have had. The fact is we don't know so it is pointless flying in one direction when you don't know where you are or where you are going.

The best scientists said 30 years ago we were heading for an ice age, the best scientists nowdays say we are heading for a warm age. The truth is we won't know for hundreds of years because our understanding of climate is that of an infact. We have no clue about what causes the El Nino .

Global warming is a fad and the crazy resources that have been devoted to it should be devoted to other more important sciences. If we threw a few hundred billion towards Nuclear Fusion we'd sort out all the current problems currently aflicting it , instead we waste money on crap such as wind power which is completely unrealible at best.

It is FACT that the term "Global Warming" was coined by Margret Thatcher (former British Taoiseach); she couldn’t keep Britain’s then massive coal industry alive for much longer due to fair competition from Polish coal, so she came up with the notion that carbon emissions were linked to a potentially lethal increase in global temputure.

Global Warming is a political issue not a scientific one

The former head of Green Peace has said that it's all a load of BS

It serves as a modern form of imperialism, keeping underdeveloped countries from developing further, i.e. it was ok for the US and Europe to wreck the environment with CO2 but now when ye guys start developing emissions are bad

That sun spot thing is seriously interesting, did you know that the yanks that discovered the phenomenon made a fortune from the bookies betting on summer highs and winter lows before they published their first paper...legends
You must remember most of the left wing are idealistic idiots and most of the right wing are selfish idiots and the lads in the centre are only in it for the money........so when it comes to science listen to scientists (cough me cough)

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 04:57PM

DTrotter wrote: »

How did the peer review go?

Unfortunately for my FYP i had to make a choice between short selling and global warming, i chose short selling .

liberal · 18-06-2009 04:57PM

Smart Bug wrote: »

I was going to write a serious reply to this thread but I couldn't really be orsed.

*sits back & chomps on popcorn instead

like, what are you? how do you live? why do you live?

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 04:58PM

liberal wrote: »

It is FACT that the term "Global Warming" was coined by Margret Thatcher (former British Taoiseach)

That is brilliant!

Earthhorse · 18-06-2009 05:03PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

That's where I stopped reading.

And started LIVING!

Orla K · 18-06-2009 05:03PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

The best scientists said 30 years ago we were heading for an ice age, the best scientists nowdays say we are heading for a warm age. The truth is we won't know for hundreds of years because our understanding of climate is that of an infact. We have no clue about what causes the El Nino.

Scientist 30 years ago were using computers which when programmed told them it would get alot colder. Scientist now are also using computers but these computers somehow have gotten better.

Also they do know what causes El Nino and La Nina. I actually thought most non scientists knew too.

But anyway I'm not going to get into this any further simply because I'm not in the mood.

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 05:07PM

Orla K wrote: »

Scientist 30 years ago were using computers which when programmed told them it would get alot colder. Scientist now are also using computers but these computers somehow have gotten better.

Also they do know what causes El Nino and La Nina. I actually thought most non scientists knew too.

But anyway I'm not going to get into this any further simply because I'm not in the mood.

Please in one sentence then explain to me the confirmed cause of El Nino and La Nina

speedboatchase · 18-06-2009 05:11PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Please in one sentence then explain to me the confirmed cause of El Nino and La Nina

MONSTERS

Earthhorse · 18-06-2009 05:13PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

MONSTERS

He didn't ask what they were he asked what causes them. :rolleyes:

Orla K · 18-06-2009 05:14PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Please in one sentence then explain to me the confirmed cause of El Nino and La Nina

It would be one long sentence which I don't care enough to write. If you really want to know then do the research.

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 05:14PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

MONSTERS

Close SBC but the answer is WE DON't KNOW!

From the BBC- http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/el_nino_events.shtml

The cause of El Niño and La Niña is not fully understood, but an important factor is the strength of the prevailing trade winds that blow from east to west across the equatorial Pacific.

Ostrom · 18-06-2009 05:15PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Aa far as im concerned we won't be able to tell if we have impacted the earth's climate/atmosphere for at least a few thousand more years.

Thats why they are theories

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 05:16PM

Orla K wrote: »

It would be one long sentence which I don't care enough to write. If you really want to know then do the research.

Well this is hilarious, your the one that said the cause of the EL Nino and La Nina had been found, im just wondering how you managed to solve the puzzle when all the other scientists haven't?

Orla K · 18-06-2009 05:20PM

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Close SBC but the answer is WE DON't KNOW!

From the BBC- http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/el_nino_events.shtml

I think you should use a website that isn't old.

b28 · 18-06-2009 05:24PM

Global warming is an excuse to make money for governments, eg taxing things because of the environmental imapact the product has etc.

Its a big load of sh*t to use as an excuse to make money!

TheInquisitor · 18-06-2009 05:26PM

Orla K wrote: »

I think you should use a website that isn't old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o-Southern_Oscillation

The mechanisms that cause an El Niño event are still being investigated due to the difficulties in establishing clear patterns that allow reliable forecasts. As the phenomenon is located near the equator, events in both hemispheres may have an effect, and since weather events (made up of changeable wind directions) show some chaotic tendencies, the onset of El Niño-events reflects this. Long-range forecasts remain tentative for this reason.

Global warming theories are a joke

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