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FC Barcelona Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,468 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    What's the latest on Henry's fitness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    That win keeps Osasuna out of the relegation zone on goal difference ahead of Sporting Gijon who also won tonight.

    I know Barca have a big game on Wednesday and are already stretched as it is, but MY GOD Osasuna are lucky! Had they played at the Nou Camp any other week they would have been destroyed.

    Serious flaws in Uefa's fixture planning...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    What's the latest on Henry's fitness?

    Looking dodgy by all accounts :(

    Osasuna, while having a better goal difference, are still in the relegation zone as Gijon have a better head to head. Had Osasuna not won last night they were down I think. Their last game is at home to Real.
    Serious flaws in Uefa's fixture planning...

    More the Spanish FA to be fair. Imagine if the title was going to the wire, Barca would have a competitive league fixture a few days after the CL final. Daft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Fenix


    gimmick wrote: »

    More the Spanish FA to be fair. Imagine if the title was going to the wire, Barca would have a competitive league fixture a few days after the CL final. Daft.

    To be fair that could have worked both ways if utd didn't get the result they needed against Arsenal last week... I agree though, not really fair on the other teams facing relegation when such a scenario occurs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Ya, the CL final should be played after all the major leagues are finished their season. If that means kicking their seasons off a week or 2 earlier, then so be it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    kinaldo wrote: »
    That win keeps Osasuna out of the relegation zone on goal difference ahead of Sporting Gijon who also won tonight.
    Actually the table I saw last night was wrong and it's the other way around, with Osasuna below Sporting Gijon despite their superior goal difference.

    point still stands though.

    Edit: just seen that Gimmick has already pointed this out, forgot about the head to head format


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Davaeo09


    Seems that both Iniesta and Henry will start. News from the official website and other reliable sources are all sounding positive.

    I imagine both starting and Henry having to be subbed in the second half for Keita, Iniesta going wide left then.

    Its an option.
    Also, I think Pep will start with Toure, Xavi and Iniesta in Mid-field. This is there best possession/creative/defensive set up.
    Back line probably being Sylviniho, Puyol, Pique and Cacares out right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Ok, he's not exactly a popular player, but he's a million times better than Eric Abidal :eek: It's not like there are an awful lot of quality left-backs in the world these days either.

    Coulda sworn I read they were interested in Evra... That'd be a good shout for Barca. Ashley Cole's good though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Abidal has just had a very solid season. I would have agreed 12 months ago that he was not good enough, not now though. Huge loss tomorrow night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Davaeo09


    gimmick wrote: »
    Abidal has just had a very solid season. I would have agreed 12 months ago that he was not good enough, not now though. Huge loss tomorrow night.

    Strongly agree. Only for him we would have lost by more the weekend just gone, he was a rock (even though the rest of the team was a B team so it would have been excusable)

    But Barca are looking for some one like Alves who will work more as a lwb than Abidal.



    Also I was wondering what you guys think will happen G. Milito? Did you see that he wouldn't come out and celebrate lifting the cup with his team mates? and Messi called him a fool. :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Erra, some professionals are like that. He is probably gutted to have been injured all season and not been a part of the celebrations. He also probably did want to take the spotlight off anyone.

    I would not read anything into that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Davaeo09


    Yeah I read that Messi tried to drag him out into the fun ;)

    But yeah Milito is a foot taller and allot stronger than little Leo. Lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Well done la blaugrana, Pep, Pep!!!

    This Barcelona team will has now cemented their place as one of the great teams of all time. Three weeks ago I was cheering Madrid and saying they might end up with nothing, no denying them now.

    And with a team half made up of Catalans, with a Catalan manager, in his debut season as a manager. Talk about fairytale stuff...

    Knocking the FIFA world champions off their perch as well, nicely done.

    In fairness to Manyoo, no team would have come close to matching Pep's Team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Tot el Camp
    És un Clam
    Som la Gent Blaugrana,
    Tant se val d'on venim,
    Si del Sud o del Nord,
    Ara estem d'acord, estem d'acord,
    Una bandera ens agermana.
    Blaugrana al vent,
    Un crit valent,
    Tenim un nom,
    El sap tothom:
    BARÇA !, BARÇA!, BARÇAAAAAAAAAA!


    1242240066extrasportada.jpg


    Barcelona_Nike_2.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Just to add that Barca were also a joy to watch. Thank fúck we didn't have to suffer through Chelsea, Drogba, Ballack and co.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Posting this picture again, because I LOVE IT!

    Barcelona_Nike_2.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    My face hurts from smiling so much last night. Just incredible. So so happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Absolutely fantastic - all year they have been playing wonder football. Guardiola has taken this team into folk-lore. I honestly have never been more spellbounded and fascinated by any other team. Watching them weave their way through is a joy to behold. The Barca way and the Catalan way.

    Looking forward I just cant see Henry playing at his top-top level. He has lost that yard of pace and sometimes just seems to lack conviction in front of goal and seems hesitant to take the shot on. I would definitely keep him though as he is still a top player but the one player I would love to see at Camp Nou next year is Ribery.

    Imagine that attacking line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Not sure if this has been shown on the British and Irish news so here's a video of the party from the Nou Camp earlier tonight. Incredible scenes that will make any non-Barca fan, myself included, a tad jealous.

    http://www.rtve.es/deportes/20090528/barcelona-vuelca-con-los-campeones/279033.shtml


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Haha, is Messi locked?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Vampireskiss


    How does Zidane in his prime compare to Xavi and Iniesta?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Davaeo09


    Good question. I think there's not much in it really. Those 3 are the best mid fielders of my generation. (still got a while left though :D )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    How does Zidane in his prime compare to Xavi and Iniesta?

    Zidane was a once-off. Xavi is undoubtably world-class but I would have Zidane ahead of him. Iniesta is still only 25 and improving. Iniesta is ahead of what Zizou was when he was 25 so only time will tell if he can prove to be as good as Zidane.

    Zidane in his prime was special. The fact that Xavi and Iniesta plays together also must be taken into account. They know where the other player is going to be and are the best combination of midfielders in the world today - no doubt.

    Individually Zidane would still be ahead for me - he carried France to a World Cup practically on his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    Holsten wrote: »
    Haha, is Messi locked?

    I sure as hell hope so!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    How does Zidane in his prime compare to Xavi and Iniesta?

    will people chill the **** out! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭fillmore jive


    That video is brilliant, Messi is in the absolute Joe Bits! Kinda cool that Pique is running around with a Cameroon jersey on as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Good article this. How can Barcelona out do what they have just done? I look forward to seeing them try anyway :)
    Spanish Inquisition: Where Do Barcelona & Pep Guardiola Go From Here?
    After a superlative 2008/09 season, Goal.com’s KS Leong takes a look at how Barcelona can possibly outdo themselves next term…


    There’s no better time to be a Barcelona fan or player.

    You have just become the first Spanish team to win ‘el triplete’. You have perhaps the best, second best and third best player in the world. You have one of the most unrivalled youth systems and your team plays the kind of extra-terrestrial football that often seems to be light years ahead of everyone else.

    Only problem is, where do you go from here?

    How can Pep Guardiola possibly top winning three titles in his rookie year as coach? Should he aim for four next term, five the following season and six the year after that? Unfortunately for him, at a club like Barcelona, you’re not allowed to set such modest targets.

    After such a ridiculously glorious season, the only direction for the Blaugrana to go is up. Much further up. Their main goal next term will undoubtedly be to win every single possible trophy, from the Spanish and UEFA Supercup to the FIFA Club World Cup, to the triple crown they won this year. That’s six altogether.

    Whether or not that’s an objective the club will set out for themselves at the start of the campaign, it will most certainly be what the press and the fans will be expecting. Anything short of another set of three trophies and the season could be deemed a flop. But is it even possible for a team to continue winning the treble year after year? Can Guardiola continue to scale new heights and become the greatest coach in football history?

    In terms of trophy count, he has definitely given himself a huge head start.

    Some of the top active managers in the world today, Sir Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Guus Hiddink, Fabio Capello, can only dream of winning three titles on debut and to do it at just age 38.

    Fergie, for example, took three and a half years before he won his first piece of silverware with Manchester United and he had to wait almost another decade before he lifted his first European Cup and won the treble.

    But no-one dares to label Guardiola one of the greats just yet and there’s a good reason for that. It’s difficult, and almost preposterous, to bless someone with greatness after just one year at the job. Reaching the pinnacle is always easy, especially when you have the good fortune of being armed with some of the most shamelessly talented footballers ever assembled in one single dressing room. Maintaining that kind of supremacy and dominance over a period of time, on the other hand, is what truly defines excellence.

    However, if you follow La Liga long enough, you will know that there’s no such thing as longevity in Spain when it comes to football, especially if you’re a club president of the team coach.

    It’s very rare, nowadays, for any one presidential era or coaching tenure to last more than four or five years and Guardiola is unlikely to see the same kind of stability enjoyed by Sir Alex or Arsene Wenger, as much of an overnight hero as he is right now in the blue and maroon half of Catalunya.

    A new chairman could step in and decide that he club need a change of direction or the pressure could get too intense for Pep somewhere down the road. He could lose control of the squad, like Frank Rijkaard, or lose the fans’ support and confidence.

    Guardiola was praised for the way he recovered the squad’s unity and for his ability to bring a constellation of superstars together in the one team, much the same way Vicente del Bosque did at Real Madrid.

    But can he continue to do that over the next few years? The biggest problem for a gargantuan side like Barca is that every player secretly wants to outshine the other, whether it’s on the pitch, up on the billboards on the highway, or in their personal savings accounts.

    It’s not easy to keep everyone in the squad happy.

    If Samuel Eto’o gets paid €13 million per season, will Messi demand €14? Will the Seydou Keita’s and Toure Yaya’s ask for and get a similar figure? Can Guardiola keep the youthful enthusiasm of Bojan Krkic, Sergio Busquets and Gerard Pique in check? How will he keep motivating the fringe players like the Hlebs or Gudjohnsens? These are the tribulations that the young tecnico has yet to encounter and when the time comes for him to confront these challenges, his true managerial skills will be put to the test.

    Barcelona, as a team, have less to prove.

    Having played the entire season with the same kind of enviable panache and elegance, their quality and talent is unquestionable. But to start their own legacy, they still have a long way to go before they can join the exalted elite such as the Real Madrid of the 50’s and 60’s, the Liverpool of the 70’s and 80’s or the AC Milan of the late 80’s and early 90’s.

    A good place for Barca to begin will be to become the first side to win the Champions League back to back. From then on, they can start thinking about lifting the trophy three, four, five times in a row, or becoming the first club in Spain to claim the Primera Division throne six years in succession.

    But, more importantly, they have to show that they can evolve and adapt alongside their rivals.

    Manchester United, Chelsea and Real Madrid will not lie down and bow down to them again next term and, rest assured, they will do everything they can and spend every pound and euro available to challenge the Catalan ascendancy.

    As Madrid found out themselves this season, football moves forward extremely quickly and, if you rest on your laurels and neglect to reinforce every aspect of your squad, you will be left lagging behind.

    Blaugrana technical director, Txiki Bergiristain along with Guardiola, now have the back-breaking task of recruiting new players without disrupting the balance and harmony of the current roster. One wrong choice in either buying or selling and they could undo all their hard work over the past 12 months.

    One way or another, these are exciting times at the Camp Nou. And, as the cliche goes, Barcelona are about to go where no team have gone before. This is where their real journey begins.

    KS Leong, Goal.com
    http://goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2009/05/30/1295111/spanish-inquisition-where-do-barcelona-pep-guardiola-go-from

    Not surprisingly Sylvinho will not be given a new deal. He did not do too badly for himself in his 5 years. 2 Champions leagues, 3 league and a Copa Del Rey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Davaeo09


    I think its important to keep players on their toes and competing for starts. I think in Pre-season players like Hleb and Guddy should be given a bigger role for their morale. And for the first half of the season the squad will need to be rotated VERY regularly seen as they will have a chaotic fixture listings.

    To cope with this I think we need to sigh
    A new left back, a new mid-fielder and a new striker. Keeping every thing we have (maybe not Hleb :o) and truly building a strong squad.

    Left back : Lahm? Cole?
    Mid field : Xabi Alonso? Silva? ( Silva would be ideal )
    Striker : Ibra would be nice, or Forlan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭curry-muff


    How does Zidane in his prime compare to Xavi and Iniesta?

    You cant compare either of those two to zidane, zizou was one in a million.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Davaeo09


    Your obviously haven't been watching Iniesta this season?
    He is going to ALMOST as good as Zidane if he can keep growing as he has done this season.

    Iniesta is for me, more influential for Barca than little Leo.. Especially in the later part of this season.
    Simply put, Iniesta is the best mid-fielder in the world. BUT I do acknowledge the fact that take Xavi away and he suffers.


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