Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

itsjaybud · 25-05-2009 11:23AM

Ya thats right RVP finished the season with 11 assists and 11 goals, a pretty decent return! He derserves another season at least!!!:rolleyes:

He has had the most assists this season in the EPL with the likes of Cesc, Lampard, Gerrard & Berbatov all finishing up with 10!

Good win yesterday, it was a pity RVPs freekick didnt go in but the team finished with a good performance all round.

Also SSN had a good interview with Arshavin, cant find in online but was a good watch, seems a very honest player both on and off the field and has some interesting thoughts on the game.

It will be great to have him available for all competitions next season!

DenMan · 25-05-2009 01:28PM

Sunderland will not be taking up the option to sign Djibril Cisse on a permanent deal this summer. 



                       The Frenchman joined the Black Cats on a season-long loan deal early in the 2008/09 campaign.


Having grown disillusioned with life at Marseille, the former Liverpool striker was keen to have another crack at the Premier League.


He went on to make 38 appearances for Sunderland, scoring 11 goals.
However, he found the target just once in his last 12 outings as speculation regarding his future began to mount.


A deal had been agreed for him to complete a move to the Stadium of Light once the season came to a close, with a package believed to be around &#163;10million having been put in place.


Sunderland, though, have decided against pushing that move through and will instead be turning their attention elsewhere.


"We wish Djibril well and thank him for his contribution to the club this season," chairman Niall Quinn told the club's [I]official website[/I].

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5347765,00.html

This caught my attention. If Ade does leave in the summer I believe he would be a brilliant signing for us. He wanted to join us before and with the players we have around him he would be awesome goalscorer for us. Plus he's French.

SlickRic · 25-05-2009 01:35PM

DenMan wrote: »

This caught my attention. If Ade does leave in the summer I believe he would be a brilliant signing for us. He wanted to join us before and with the players we have around him he would be awesome goalscorer for us. Plus he's French.

'brilliant' is a bit much.

you could do better, but you could certainly do a lot worse.

even at liverpool, he wasn't as bad as people all too often make out. he can be frustrating, but given the right service he has the potential to score plenty of goals.

UnitedIrishman · 25-05-2009 01:37PM

DenMan wrote: »

Sunderland will not be taking up the option to sign Djibril Cisse on a permanent deal this summer. 



                       The Frenchman joined the Black Cats on a season-long loan deal early in the 2008/09 campaign.


Having grown disillusioned with life at Marseille, the former Liverpool striker was keen to have another crack at the Premier League.


He went on to make 38 appearances for Sunderland, scoring 11 goals.
However, he found the target just once in his last 12 outings as speculation regarding his future began to mount.


A deal had been agreed for him to complete a move to the Stadium of Light once the season came to a close, with a package believed to be around &#163;10million having been put in place.


Sunderland, though, have decided against pushing that move through and will instead be turning their attention elsewhere.


"We wish Djibril well and thank him for his contribution to the club this season," chairman Niall Quinn told the club's [I]official website[/I].

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5347765,00.html

This caught my attention. If Ade does leave in the summer I believe he would be a brilliant signing for us. He wanted to join us before and with the players we have around him he would be awesome goalscorer for us. Plus he's French.

The last thing you lot need now is another player who needs 10 chances a game to score a goal. Cisse is below Arsenal standard and to be honest not good enough for any of the top 7-8.

itsjaybud · 25-05-2009 01:44PM

Jesus man, first it was Michael Owen and now Cisse!

Again NO THANKS!:eek:

DenMan · 25-05-2009 01:49PM

itsjaybud wrote: »

Jesus man, first it was Michael Owen and now Cisse!

Again NO THANKS!:eek:

:D

I know, but unfortunately with our budget and the way Wenger thinks it is the kind of signing he may go for.

With the right service he is a very good striker, very lethal in the box. tbh who will we sign with extensive experience if Ade goes? I sure as hell haven't a clue.

itsjaybud · 25-05-2009 02:15PM

DenMan wrote: »

I sure as hell haven't a clue.

this was the only part of your post i could agree with im afraid.

Cisse is no where near a player Arsenal would want to sign. Lets just move on i think.

Galvasean · 25-05-2009 02:54PM

So now that RvP has gotten 20 goals in all competitions and the most assists of any Premier League player can we all agree not to sell him?

So let silly transger rumour season commence!

Xavi Alonso is apparently transfer listed by request. Unfortunately his price tag is £20million so he's a bit pricey for us.
Perhaps a bid of £8million might lure Martins from Newcastle. Ship out Ade for close to £20million and we have a good spot of business?

BTW anyone got the goals from teh stoke game (and the youth cup final)?

yahoo_moe · 25-05-2009 03:01PM

Galvasean wrote: »

BTW anyone got the goals from teh stoke game (and the youth cup final)?

Yesterday's goals here but quality is pretty awful...

Frisbee · 25-05-2009 03:12PM

Galvasean wrote: »

So now that RvP has gotten 20 goals in all competitions and the most assists of any Premier League player can we all agree not to sell him?

Adebayor has 10 goals and 7 assists in the league in two less appearances.

Adebayor does a job for us that no other forward will, and buying Martins won't change that.

I really don't think we need a new striker this year, we already have Ade, RVP, Eduardo, Bendtner, Vela. We'd be better off spending the money somewhere else and keeping Adebayor.

itsjaybud · 25-05-2009 03:12PM

Good quality round up of Arsenal goals yesterday here no sign of the youths game though!

As mentioned before Alonso not the player we need. Imo Arsenals best formation is 4-4-2 and Alonso doesnt fit into this we already have Cesc there!

Talking of selling RVP still bothers me, absolute madness to even think about it!

Quazzie · 25-05-2009 03:16PM

Frisbee wrote: »

Adebayor has 10 goals and 7 assists in the league in two less appearances.

Adebayor does a job for us that no other forward will, and buying Martins won't change that.

I really don't think we need a new striker this year, we already have Ade, RVP, Eduardo, Bendtner, Vela. We'd be better off spending the money somewhere else and keeping Adebayor.

The money got for Adebayour could replace him and free up money for other players.

Galvasean · 25-05-2009 03:33PM

Frisbee wrote: »

Adebayor has 10 goals and 7 assists in the league in two less appearances.

Adebayor does a job for us that no other forward will, and buying Martins won't change that.

Adebayor wants out. That much has become painfully obvious. i don't want anther summer of him flirting with 'bigger' clubs only to turn around and say, "Oh the media made things up about me when I was on holidays!" again.
He was only half the player this season that he was last season.

leninbenjamin · 25-05-2009 03:45PM

speaking of possible signings, here's someone i think we should be looking at: Kevin Nolan.

now i know he's not a world beater or as technically gifted as the rest of the team, but he's got proven premiership experience, a high work rate and, with his physical presence, has the ability to put a lot of pressure on opposition defences (with or without the ball), so he could defend from the font like Flamini used and open up space for Cesc to play his passes from deep. And he should be available at a reasonable price.

ticks the right boxes for me.

Paleface · 25-05-2009 03:54PM

He's a c**t though. Personally a guy I love to hate.

I agree with you that he has the physicality which Arsenal could do with in the middle of the park but surely there has to be someone out there we can get besides him.

Royale with Cheese · 25-05-2009 03:54PM

leninbenjamin wrote: »

speaking of possible signings, here's someone i think we should be looking at: Kevin Nolan.

now i know he's not a world beater or as technically gifted as the rest of the team, but he's got proven premiership experience, a high work rate and, with his physical presence, has the ability to put a lot of pressure on opposition defences (with or without the ball), so he could defend from the font like Flamini used and open up space for Cesc to play his passes from deep. And he should be available at a reasonable price.

ticks the right boxes for me.

He was available for £4m six months ago. If Wenger wanted him he would have bought him then. I wouldn't mind him though. Wouldn't be as lightweight as the current options.

If Adebayor is to go, with Milan a likely destination, perhaps Flamini coming back as part of that deal could be an option.

itsjaybud · 25-05-2009 04:31PM

Kevin Nolan was mentioned here back in the January transfer window and im shocked hes name has been mentioned again tbh!

He went to a club with a disgraceful team and couldnt even secure a regular spot in the team! What has he done for Newcastle?

Maybe if we needed extra cover but we have enough in that position, if we can sign a decent DM this summer!

Some crazy signing mentioned today!

Pepe LeFrits · 25-05-2009 05:28PM

No, no, no to Nolan.

Martins and Bassong are the only Newky players I'd have any interest in.

Galvasean · 26-05-2009 12:31AM

While we're talking about getting players from relegated teams, I recall SWenger said he wouldn't extend Jay Simpson's loan at WBA if they got relegated.
I wonder will another Prem team go for him. Burnley perhaps?

leninbenjamin · 26-05-2009 08:53AM

Galvasean wrote: »

While we're talking about getting players from relegated teams, I recall SWenger said he wouldn't extend Jay Simpson's loan at WBA if they got relegated.
I wonder will another Prem team go for him. Burnley perhaps?

they'll probably sell him? he doesn't look being up to Arsenal's standards anytime soon...

oh and, in the silly pages, the mirror are reporting we've bid for Hangeland

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/05/26/arsene-out-to-land-hange-115875-21389216/

yahoo_moe · 26-05-2009 09:30AM

itsjaybud wrote: »

What has he done for Newcastle?

Exactly. And more than that, have Bolton missed him?

Personally I don't think he's anywhere near the player he was (maybe even only briefly?) about 2/3 years ago.

Pepe LeFrits wrote:

Martins and Bassong are the only Newky players I'd have any interest in.

Bassong, yes. Martins I'm not really sure - I guess he'd be a similar-ish player to Ade so we might be able to turn a profit on the swap but if we're going to replace him, I'd like whoever we bring in to offer an improvement in one or more of the following areas where Ade's weak:

(1) be a more clinical finisher
(2) be a more intelligent footballer (ie less offside)
(3) have a good attitude and workrate all the time
(4) not think he's more of a superstar than he is.

I'm not sure Martins really ticks any of those boxes so it'd be a purely financial move I think. But we could maybe do with that so I dunno.

Frisbee · 26-05-2009 03:01PM

Galvasean wrote: »

He was only half the player this season that he was last season.

Well when you go from having Hleb and Rosicky assisting you to Denilson and Diaby your form is going to drop off.

I'm not Adebayor's biggest fan at all as most of you know, but I'd rather hold onto him.

L'prof · 26-05-2009 03:04PM

This season v previous seasons:

P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
2008-2009:  38  20  12   6  68  37  31  72
2007-2008:  38  24  11   3  74  31  43  83 ( 3rd)
2006-2007:  38  19  11   8  63  35  28  68 ( 4th)
2005-2006:  38  20   7  11  68  31  37  67 ( 4th)
2004-2005:  38  25   8   5  87  36  51  83 ( 2nd)
2003-2004:  38  26  12   0  73  26  47  90 ( 1st)
2002-2003:  38  23   9   6  85  42  43  78 ( 2nd)
2001-2002:  38  26   9   3  79  36  43  87 ( 1st)
2000-2001:  38  20  10   8  63  38  25  70 ( 2nd)
1999-2000:  38  22   7   9  73  43  30  73 ( 2nd)
1998-1999:  38  22  12   4  59  17  42  78 ( 2nd)
1997-1998:  38  23   9   6  68  33  35  78 ( 1st)
1996-1997:  38  19  11   8  62  32  30  68 ( 3rd)
1995-1996:  38  17  12   9  49  32  17  63 ( 5th)
1994-1995:  38  12  10  16  46  46   0  46 (12th)
1993-1994:  38  17  16   5  50  22  28  67 ( 4th)
1992-1993:  38  14  10  14  36  34   2  52 (10th)

All time premier league record:

Reading               4   4   0   0  11   2   9  12 3.00
Watford               4   4   0   0   9   3   6  12 3.00
Barnsley              2   2   0   0   7   0   7   6 3.00
Wolves                2   2   0   0   6   1   5   6 3.00
Wigan                 8   7   1   0  17   6  11  22 2.75
Ipswich              10   8   2   0  23   4  19  26 2.60
Man City             24  19   3   2  46  14  32  60 2.50
Charlton             16  12   2   2  36  12  24  38 2.38
Fulham               16  12   2   2  33   9  24  38 2.38
West Brom             8   6   1   1  18   8  10  19 2.38
Derby                14  10   3   1  27  11  16  33 2.36
Leicester            16  10   5   1  38  13  25  35 2.19
Crystal Palace        8   5   2   1  16   5  11  17 2.13
Birmingham           10   6   3   1  19   5  14  21 2.10
Nottingham Forest    10   6   3   1  13   7   6  21 2.10
Everton              34  21   8   5  67  27  40  71 2.09
Southampton          26  15   7   4  50  24  26  52 2.00
Sunderland           16   9   5   2  30  11  19  32 2.00
Portsmouth           12   6   6   0  20   6  14  24 2.00
Oldham                4   2   2   0   4   1   3   8 2.00
Swindon               2   1   1   0   5   1   4   4 2.00
Middlesbrough        28  16   7   5  62  26  36  55 1.96
Coventry             18  10   5   3  25  13  12  35 1.94
West Ham             28  16   6   6  40  17  23  54 1.93
Bolton               20  11   5   4  32  22  10  38 1.90
Blackburn            30  16   7   7  51  26  25  55 1.83
Villa                34  16  12   6  53  30  23  60 1.76
Newcastle            32  16   8   8  46  27  19  56 1.75
Bradford              4   2   1   1   6   3   3   7 1.75
Chelsea              34  16  11   7  50  39  11  59 1.74
Leeds                24  12   4   8  43  25  18  40 1.67
Norwich               8   3   4   1  17   9   8  13 1.63
Spurs                34  13  16   5  51  36  15  55 1.62
MK Dons              16   7   4   5  30  16  14  25 1.56
Sheffield Wednesday  16   7   4   5  21  16   5  25 1.56
Sheffield United      6   2   3   1   9   4   5   9 1.50
Stoke                 2   1   0   1   5   3   2   3 1.50
Hull                  2   1   0   1   4   3   1   3 1.50
Man United           34  10  11  13  33  43 -10  41 1.21
Liverpool            34   9  11  14  36  48 -12  38 1.12
QPR                   8   1   5   2   7   8  -1   8 1.00

Current run:

P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
2008-2009:   2   1   1   0   4   1   3   4

itsjaybud · 26-05-2009 03:39PM

Chris Kammy Kamara Season's Best

His highlights of the season include the 4-4 Liverpool game and Adebayors goal against Blackburn!

My goal of the season is Cristiano Ronaldo's long-range strike against Porto in the quarter-final of the Champions League, I'll never forget that goal. But from a Premier League perspective my favourite was scored by Arsenal against Blackburn at the start of the season. There were 27 passes in the build-up, but it wasn't 27 square passes, it was 27 probing passes looking for an opportunity. Denilson found it with the cross onto the head of Adebayor and it was great to watch.

Remember watching that game it was a pretty unreal passage of play even against the likes of rovers!

Galvasean · 26-05-2009 04:11PM

itsjaybud wrote: »

Chris Kammy Kamara Season's Best

His highlights of the season include the 4-4 Liverpool game and Adebayors goal against Blackburn!

Remember watching that game it was a pretty unreal passage of play even against the likes of rovers!

Didn't we get as many passes (or was it 23) against United at the Emirates for one of Nasri's goals? Purely because of the quality of opposition I'd rank that goal higher.

As for Adebayor, my main reason for wanting him out is his lack of loyalty to the club. i want all of our players 100% commited to the cause. Adebayor is clearly far from it.

itsjaybud · 26-05-2009 04:42PM

That was a brillant goal alright you can watch it from around 1.30 in its only around 16 passes!!!:)

I love the way Walcott takes Vidic out of the game, quality goal but 27 passes against Blackburn was pretty unreal!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn9rhJUpYZw

Few Adebayor related stories on sky sports atm, the only reason id be happy to let him go was if we got massive money for him. I agree hes attitude has been horrible but if he stays hopefully he can start scoring on a regular basis again.

A confident Adebayor is not a bad player to have and there isnt really any cheap quickfix replacements out there. If he is sold the we defiantely need to buy another striker.

legs11 · 26-05-2009 05:41PM

Is on ITV4...

26-05-2009 09:32PM

itsjaybud wrote: »

Few Adebayor related stories on sky sports atm, the only reason id be happy to let him go was if we got massive money for him. I agree hes attitude has been horrible but if he stays hopefully he can start scoring on a regular basis again.

A confident Adebayor is not a bad player to have and there isnt really any cheap quickfix replacements out there. If he is sold the we defiantely need to buy another striker.

people were getting on Adebayor's back before the first ball of the season was kicked to be fair and despite his injuries he still hit 16 goals.

On the youths tonight i felt we weren't as good as Friday night it goes without saying but still done the job. Bits of magic here and there from Wilshere who had a quiet game by his high standards. JET was very poor. I dont rate Sunu at all but the players who stood out for me were Sanchez Watt and Thomas Cruise.Watt is a Tevez style of player. Huge work rate from the young lad over the 2 legs. Both have fantastic futures ahead at Arsenal. Lansbury and the 2 centre halves will be important players too.

Galvasean · 27-05-2009 01:34AM

I taught JET played much better later on in the game when he was allowed move forward. He doesn't look as comfortable in defence.
Wilshire despite his great skill always comes across as being fairly greedy in these youth matches. I don't know if it's that he knows the spotlight is on him and he wants to show off, but he often ignores obvious passes and shoots/runs directly at goal.
Watt impressed a lot. He seemed to be involved in everything Arsenal created. I also like the look of Sunu even though he drifted in and out of the game.

WillieCocker · 27-05-2009 09:14AM

Galvasean wrote: »

Didn't we get as many passes (or was it 23) against United at the Emirates for one of Nasri's goals? Purely because of the quality of opposition I'd rank that goal higher.

As for Adebayor, my main reason for wanting him out is his lack of loyalty to the club. i want all of our players 100% commited to the cause. Adebayor is clearly far from it.

Agree totally.
The only thing Adebayor is committed to is whinging when the fans don't sing his name or he needs a raise.
Sell him FTW.

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