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Using Irish day to day

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  • #32
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Little Shyte wrote: »
    Learn the language or you can't really consider yourself 100% Irish

    And yet some see Irish speakers as pretentious. I just don't understand it. :confused:


  • #33
    LittleEve
    Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭LittleEve


    Nah I never really liked the language throughout school, i have enough trouble with english :D


  • #34
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    phasers wrote: »
    That makes me think of **** who use French words in an English conversation. Dropping Irish words into an English conversation is stupid imo

    Like Irish people who can't just say croissant - they have to say CWWWWWWASSSSSON.

    Beating offence, really.


  • #35
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    phasers wrote: »
    I don't know, can you?

    cead is permission - FAIL


  • #36
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I speak Irish every day, but I have the benefit of having friends who are fluent. I started up a conversational group in my city about a year and a half ago to give me more time to use it. I love Irish :)


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  • #37
    markopantelic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 538 ✭✭✭markopantelic


    i try not to speak english as much as possible-french and irish for me. I despise English.


  • #38
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    dlofnep wrote: »
    I love Irish :)

    grá don teanga - fuath leis na daoine in aghaidh an ghaeilge (seoinín's)


  • #39
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    phasers wrote: »
    That makes me think of **** who use French words in an English conversation. Dropping Irish words into an English conversation is stupid imo

    are they french?


  • #40
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    ive heard irish bein spoken on the tram a few times, it was easy to understand so im guessing they were from galway or local


  • #41
    Crumble Froo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    yep, i do. not as much now that i live in new zealand, but i've managed to teach my kiwi b/f to say 'please', 'thankyou', 'bless you' and 'cup of tea please with milk and sugar'. granted, it's taken over a year now, but he's doing quite well.

    i mutter to myself as gaeilge quite regularly at work, and have taught my boss 'oh my god' and 'rubbish bin', but that's about the extent of it now.

    had to brush up on me aul gaeilge yesterday, got a 4pg letter from my sister entirely in irish. managed to write back with no dictionary or anything, was quite proud of myself.


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  • #42
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Mask wrote: »
    I was in a bar in town and there was this hot american girl with an Irish phrase book, she was sitting close to me and I said are you trying to learn Irish, she was only over for two weeks but was trying to learn Irish anyway. I helped her with the pronunciation. I did not bother to tell her that no one in Dublin really ever speaks in Irish. But still impressed she wanted to learn it.

    She obviously didn't get the memo.

    We just call Des Bishop for all of our translations now.


  • #43
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    phasers wrote: »
    Dropping Irish words into an English conversation is stupid imo

    Hmmmm. Why?


  • #44
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Nodin wrote: »
    Hmmmm. Why?

    Cen Faith?

    because he does not speak the language so he thinks that everybody else should be iggnorant towards it also!

    You meat a bit of that from time to time, you just got to rise above it and realise that if everyone was that way we would speak norman or something sh1t like that!


  • #45
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    why would we speak norman? - i presume you mean french


  • #46
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    conchubhar1 wrote: »
    why would we speak norman? - i presume you mean french

    No I knew what I ment! The orig language of the Normans was not french! I just cannot remember what it was so it was easier to say norman but if your questioning you catch my jist do no point in over analysis.


  • #47
    Mr.Lizard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    I'd love to be fluent in Irish. Unfortunately the place I learned to speak the language was school.


  • #48
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    a norse language?

    thats an even more ludicrous claim


  • #49
    johnny_knoxvile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    Tà a làn gruaige ar mo lìroitdhì...

    ...i tried at least.


  • #50
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    I'd love to be able to speak Irish. Unfortunately I learned the language at school.

    níl sé ró-déanach-its not too late


  • #51
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    johnny_knoxvile wrote: »
    Tà a làn gruaige ar mo lìroitdhì...

    ...i tried at least.

    maith an cailín


    how did you get the backwards accents - will come in handy for gaelic (scots)


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  • #52
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Little Shyte wrote: »
    I always do it mar is maith liom bheith ag caint le mo chairde in English freisin.
    http://www.blackadderhall.com/sounds/speako.wav

    Learn the language or you can't really consider yourself 100% Irish
    Joking aside, that is the greatest load of codswallop about this whole debate. Given that very few who speak it, speak it fluently enough to describe themselves as native speakers and they're usually the ones who come out with such rhetoric. They're essentially creating a new language based on Irish. While languages evolve that's an unusual evolution. Non native first language speakers teaching other non native language speakers. Learning Latin today would not make someone a Roman and not having Irish does not make someone less Irish. Of all the men and women that have made this nation what it is and are famous the world over for doing so in al areas of human endeavour, how many were native speakers? Do we excise them from the pantheon of "irishness"?

    If it lives as a form of communication then fair enough. If people want it it will grow, but not if it's used as a stick to beat some notional sense of Irish into us as a nation.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #53
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    not beat it into you

    its the national and historic language of ireland - if you dont speak it how can you not be considered less irish?

    just being born into the artificial borders?


  • #54
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    conchubhar1 wrote: »

    just being born into the artificial borders?

    Water isn't artifical......it's wet !!


  • #55
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    border up north much?

    unless of course you were born in 1920-21 but then of course you would be technicaly british


  • #56
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    conchubhar1 wrote: »
    a norse language?

    thats an even more ludicrous claim

    I did not say that! Stop being daft and rambling although I forgot this is afterhours so here is the story

    They spoke a dialect of French known as Norman French. The Normans were Vikings who settled in northern France about a century before 1066 and learned French, but with a certain amount of Viking influence. One of the differences between Norman and Standard French was in the gw sound at the beginning of words. In Norman, this was pronounced w, but in the rest of France as gw (later g). The word "warranty" in English comes from the word in Norman French. We also borrowed the same word from Standard French as "guarantee". Other pairs of words that we borrowed both from Norman and Standard French are "ward"/"guard", "warden"/"guardian", "war"/"guerre". Another difference was the palatalization of velar consonants before 'a' in Standard French, so that we borrowed "candle" from Norman French, but "chandelier" from Standard French. Other pairs are "castle"/"chateau", "catch"/"chase", "cattle"/"chattel". There were also vowel differences, so that we have the Norman French "round", but the Standard French "rondel".

    Here is a website with a selection of English words borrowed from Norman French: http://www.krysstal.com/borrow_normanfre...


  • #57
    johnny_knoxvile
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    conchubhar1 wrote: »
    maith an cailín


    how did you get the backwards accents - will come in handy for gaelic (scots)

    mobile phone.

    Póg mo moggely


  • #58
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    thats great
    you said we would speak ''norman'' when i said french you said no, when i said norse you said no
    its pretty much french

    anyway, ludicrous claim that we would be speaking it, ni matter what you call it


  • #59
    snubbleste
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    johnny_knoxvile wrote: »
    Tà a làn gruaige ar mo lìroitdhì...
    ...i tried at least.

    Taispeáin dúinn griangraf nó bí ar do bhealach


  • #60
    conchubhar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭conchubhar1


    johnny_knoxvile wrote: »
    mobile phone.

    Póg mo moggely

    can i kiss whinnie the poo instead?


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  • #61
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    If only there was a forum for threads like this.

    One day my friends ....one day !!


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