Pyjamas > Pub > PM - WTF?

MOH · 14-05-2009 04:07PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

I have two eyes in my head.

It's a frikken disgrace the way lizard people trying to sew the seeds of a lizard takeover of the free world.

Anyone who cannot see that is blind.

I for one welcome our new pyjama-wearing lizard overlords.

thelordofcheese · 14-05-2009 04:07PM

Degsy wrote: »

Anybody with any sense.....

Appeal to authority.

I should just play fallacy bingo with in these sort of threads, degsy alone is probably enough for me to call house.

Degsy · 14-05-2009 04:18PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Appeal to authority.

I should just play fallacy bingo with in these sort of threads, degsy alone is probably enough for me to call house.

Will you please stop posting garbage?

At least try to stop posting garbage.

FlutterinBantam · 14-05-2009 04:18PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Appeal to authority.

I should just play fallacy bingo with in these sort of threads, degsy alone is probably enough for me to call house.

Playing bingo is about all you seem to understand buddy.

If you are happy to subsidise obvious leechers and wasters without as much as a whimper, well don't come whinging on here when the personal tax goes through the roof, that's if you even pay tax.

there's an elephant in the room here folks, most people apart from Degsy seem not to be able to see it.

Victor_M · 14-05-2009 04:41PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Y'know this thread really epitomises the malaise and stupidity that is modern Ireland.

You can't critisise any grouping for fear of drawing down the ire of the tree huggers and crusties who abound amongst us.

Go to any town in any county in Ireland and you will find a pub populated all day by people who seem to have no recognised source of income.

I know in my area there are people who inhabit the pub from opening to closing almost 7 days a week and I know they do not work.
I do not have to be a rocket scientist to see this, I have two eyes .

Now the crusties and tree huggers will say,hey maybe they won the lotto,or maybe they cashed in on their shares in Adamantec.com or maybe they are secret scientists working for NASA on a new rocket propulsion project.
Maybe they are, I have no proof other than fcuking common sense.

Now the bit that bends me out of shape is that as a taxpayer, I am paying for these people and basically these punters are giving the finger to society, they have a good thing going and depend on misinformed and idealistic people to defend them.

The flutter is not impressed and will always call it as it is and not trolling or smart arsery will change this opinion.

Can't really argue with you there Flutter, unfortunately the Pc/tree hugging high horse brigade, are, a bit like knackers in pyjama's, an unavoidable part of life in Ireland.

Tchaikovsky · 14-05-2009 04:54PM

The next step will be these people taking a crap in the middle of the street.
"Wer no' scum a da ert, we jus need ta take a shoite!"

Degsy · 14-05-2009 04:58PM

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

The next step will be these people taking a crap in the middle of the street.
"Wer no' scum a da ert, we jus need ta take a shoite!"

They fcuck thier litter wherever they feel like it,piss wherever they feel like it and smoke on buses.
Its not such a jump..

Tchaikovsky · 14-05-2009 05:00PM

That's why I said 'step' rather than 'jump'

I'm sure the Corpo will clean up after them inanyway.

14-05-2009 05:19PM

xxlilyxx wrote: »

I hav went the shops in my pj's, they'd be clean ones. Im not scum of the earth, im jus comfortable in them and if i wanna go the shops in them its no one's business. My hair and make up is always done so its not like i do be in bits. But now in all fairness i would never go the pub or on a bus in them, jus my local shops or chippers or that.

So you get up in the morning, do your hair and make-up change into clean pajamas?

In all fairness.... why wouldnt you get on a bus in them or go to the pub? If the shops and chippers are ok why the bus?

thelordofcheese · 14-05-2009 05:21PM

Degsy wrote: »

Will you please stop posting garbage?

for someone who spends so much time online, you'd think you'd be at least passingly familiar with the concept of logical fallacies, even if you can't stop resorting to them.

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Playing bingo is about all you seem to understand buddy.

I see what you did there.
Very average. Well done.

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

If you are happy to subsidise obvious leechers and wasters without as much as a whimper, well don't come whinging on here when the personal tax goes through the roof, that's if you even pay tax.
.

AblooBloo, cry me a river.

Obviously, i'd prefer that every penny that i pay in tax doesn't get mis-used. I'd also like to have a gold plated shitter while we're asking for the impossible.

There will always be people who will work the system, no matter how tightly it's regulated. But instead of getting all self righteous and throwing out shitty absolutes, i take comfort in the fact that for every person that would fit into your "leechers and wasters" category there's a lot more that get my tax money and deserve it.

No system is perfect, and living with that seems to be far more sensible than posting innane drivel about how "everybody knows" whatever vitriol your spweing today.

14-05-2009 05:35PM

If I owned a grocery shop a pub or a cafe, I wouldnt let anyone who wasnt dressed appropriately, into the premises.
Its unhygenic, bottom line.
Sweat, skin, all sorts of contagions could be on her Jammies, after sleeping in them all night.

Just dirty, end of story.

Dont know who they think they are kidding, if they think people , think they jump up out of bed, strip of the jammies they slept in , and put on a fresh pair to go to the shops??? go wan outta that.:D

My name is URL · 14-05-2009 05:36PM

Degsy wrote: »

They fcuck thier litter wherever they feel like it,piss wherever they feel like it and smoke on buses.
Its not such a jump..

Who.. the pajama people..?

Jesus christ, this thread is like a YouTube comments page.

Catch a grip of yourselves ffs.

You don't even know what it is your ridiculing for a fcuking start, one minute it's pajama folk and the next it's people that litter... and the fact that you think they're all the one is a testament to the 'sweeping generalization' comment I made earlier

Notorious · 14-05-2009 05:50PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Who.. the pajama people..?

Mother Mary 'n Joseph, I wish they'd all go away

thelordofcheese · 14-05-2009 05:56PM

Jake1 wrote: »

If I owned a grocery shop a pub or a cafe, I wouldnt let anyone who wasnt dressed appropriately, into the premises.
Its unhygenic, bottom line.
Sweat, skin, all sorts of contagions could be on her Jammies, after sleeping in them all night.

Though to be fair they'd be cleaner than anyone who'd spent 8 hours working. They'd be sweating more, have probably eaten once, so theres food on the clothes and the bacteria that'd breed on that, and theres meeting other people, each with there own brand of filth to pass on. And it's not like city air is very clean, and people are pretty dirty to begin with. Lord help them is they took public transport to work.

Erm not that science or reality has any bearing on this thread anymore, of course.

yoyo · 14-05-2009 05:58PM

Why does it really offend people if people wear pyjamas outdoors? I don't really see why its such a big deal, and no, I dont wear pyjamas outdoors, or even wear pjs to begin with, I wear tracksuits & hoodies, as there comfortable, and thats all I wear, I don't wear jeans, shirts etc and I'm not a scumbag, I really just think its pathetic people judge people on what they wear and find it bizarre there is a need on after hours for a thread about the subject daily nearly*
*Maybe not quite, but I see plenty of posts on the subject frequently

Nick

14-05-2009 06:01PM

True

RoundyMooney · 14-05-2009 06:54PM

Well said, Flutther, and Degsy. I don't give a damn whom I alienate by supporting your opinions here.

I hope against hope that those who are particularly prevalent on this site, and who are vocal in their assertions that we cannot "generalise" at all for fear of blanket condemning entire sections of society, either will come in time to adapt a more fair minded and realistic view, do not pursue such opinions IRL to the same degree, or do not represent such a vocal and ubiquitous section of real world society.

I deal with all sections of society every day of the week, have done for years, and have my own opinions on the subject.

I could name demographics at this point (and in fact had started to), but there is little point. Suffice to say that while I would treat every individual in a fair and impartial manner, I would not and am not surprised in the least if my own private suspicions are realised (and they invariably are).

If I see some pot bellied Lizzy Duke wearing pyjama wearer in a shop or on the street, I sure as hell am not going to mentally pat them on the back for it. If I see one of them in the dole queue or swigging a can, I am not going to be surprised. If I see one of them with spawn in tow which they may or may not be verbally abusing, I am not going to e surprised.

Why? Because I see it every fucking day of the week. And I don't even live in a city.

These things are clichés because people are sh1t sick of looking at them day in day out. These things are coming to the fore *now*, because while there has always been an undercurrent of resentment, the growing taxes that working people now have to pay are bringing home just how much we waste as a nation on many different things. Not least entire generations suckling on the failed welfare teat.

Personally I'm equally angry at the wasted billions of the last decade, and the continuing capitulation to the banking sector, but that's a whole other debate.

For Christ's sake, when are the middle class bleaters here going to realise that this constant flow of money cannot continue? When are they going to realise that we created this problem, and the onus is on us (heh) all to prevent another generation falling to the wayside as feckless layabouts who can't even get dressed in the morning. One knacker did it and got away with it, now it's rampant.

stovelid · 14-05-2009 07:01PM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

Shouldn't you have stopped and asked her there and then?

He was afraid. She'd have kicked his arse. While laughing. With one hand keeping a casual hold of her pyjama drawstrings.

javaboy · 14-05-2009 08:12PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Y'know this thread really epitomises the malaise and stupidity that is modern Ireland.

You can't critisise any grouping for fear of drawing down the ire of the tree huggers and crusties who abound amongst us.

That tree huggers and crusties line gets old real fast. Just because someone objects to people jumping to conclusions, it doesn't make them a tree hugger or a crusty.

Now the crusties and tree huggers will say,hey maybe they won the lotto,or maybe they cashed in on their shares in Adamantec.com or maybe they are secret scientists working for NASA on a new rocket propulsion project.
Maybe they are, I have no proof other than fcuking common sense.

Or a much more reasonable explanation like maybe they work nights. But no you stick to the nonsensical explanations that nobody even suggested. Shoot those ones down and hope nobody notices that you completely ignored the more sensible possibility.

Also, for the record, I don't think many people would disagree that plenty of the people propping up the bar are scrounging. I certainly don't. But there's a difference between asserting that they are all paying their way and refuting the assertion that they're not. Can you not see that?

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

wake up buddy, the thread has moved on

No it hasn't.

Degsy · 14-05-2009 08:17PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Who.. the pajama people..?

Jesus christ, this thread is like a YouTube comments page.

Catch a grip of yourselves ffs.

You don't even know what it is your ridiculing for a fcuking start, one minute it's pajama folk and the next it's people that litter... and the fact that you think they're all the one is a testament to the 'sweeping generalization' comment I made earlier

Well,its a sad fact that where you see pajama people you also see litter.
They tend not to be the sort of people who use bins..this is apersonal observation having a friend who lives above a shop in balllymun and from living quite near to a shopping centre in finglas.
The litter is absolutely disgusting,you see kids with thier mothers throwing stuff on the ground and the mothers care not one whit.

Sharpshooter · 14-05-2009 08:24PM

stovelid wrote: »

He was afraid. She'd have kicked his arse. While laughing. With one hand keeping a casual hold of her pyjama drawstrings.

I didn't get why he worded the OP the way he did, then I thought the girl was a member here on boards hence the thread, and the PM, well what was that all about.

That's another thing,why do they all buy pj's that are way too small for them.

Disease Ridden · 14-05-2009 08:26PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Y'know this thread really epitomises the malaise and stupidity that is modern Ireland.

You can't critisise any grouping for fear of drawing down the ire of the tree huggers and crusties who abound amongst us.

Go to any town in any county in Ireland and you will find a pub populated all day by people who seem to have no recognised source of income.

I know in my area there are people who inhabit the pub from opening to closing almost 7 days a week and I know they do not work.
I do not have to be a rocket scientist to see this, I have two eyes .

Now the crusties and tree huggers will say,hey maybe they won the lotto,or maybe they cashed in on their shares in Adamantec.com or maybe they are secret scientists working for NASA on a new rocket propulsion project.
Maybe they are, I have no proof other than fcuking common sense.

Now the bit that bends me out of shape is that as a taxpayer, I am paying for these people and basically these punters are giving the finger to society, they have a good thing going and depend on misinformed and idealistic people to defend them.

The flutter is not impressed and will always call it as it is and not trolling or smart arsery will change this opinion.

Jaysus, it seems the Thunderdome crowd are the only people on boards with a bit of cop on! Agree with this 100%. Why do people these day, in particular the middle classes, feel the need to block out in their mind what's plain and obvious and try to look for an idealistic explanation? The scummers you're all supporting with your tax dont care if you despise them or stand up for them, so why bother?

javaboy · 14-05-2009 08:31PM

Sharpshooter wrote: »

I didn't get why he worded the OP the way he did, then I thought the girl was a member here on boards hence the thread, and the PM, well what was that all about.

That's another thing,why do they all buy pj's that are way too small for them.

Think the PM bit meant after midday.

Disease Ridden wrote: »

Why do people these day, in particular the middle classes, feel the need to block out in their mind what's plain and obvious and try to look for an idealistic explanation?

As I said earlier, there's a difference between asserting that they are all paying their way and refuting the assertion that they're not.

DarkJager · 14-05-2009 08:37PM

Just ban pyjamas and we'll be rid of this scourge..

Degsy · 14-05-2009 09:00PM

DarkJager wrote: »

Just ban pyjamas and we'll be rid of this scourge..

In shops,shopping centres,restaurants,pubs,post offices and buses,yes.

colly10 · 14-05-2009 09:33PM

Disease Ridden wrote: »

Jaysus, it seems the Thunderdome crowd are the only people on boards with a bit of cop on! Agree with this 100%. Why do people these day, in particular the middle classes, feel the need to block out in their mind what's plain and obvious and try to look for an idealistic explanation? The scummers you're all supporting with your tax dont care if you despise them or stand up for them, so why bother?

+1 - Despite the fact that this topic regularly comes up on the radio and these scummers ring in and verify that their just a bunch of lazy layabouts and the fact that you see them at 10 in the morning drinking cans outside the dole office it still seems to be the mission of some to defend them because everyone else is just generalising in their opinion.
For some people you'd actually have to hand them statistics on how many of these wasters spend their time drinking cans for breakfast with money they screw off the state for them to actually believe you (and even then they'd still make excuses)
I can't understand why these people can't take their head out of their ass for a minute, take a good look around them and see that some people out there are just pure scum and don't deserve to be defended

FlutterinBantam · 14-05-2009 11:22PM

javaboy wrote: »

That tree huggers and crusties line gets old real fast. Just because someone objects to people jumping to conclusions, it doesn't make them a tree hugger or a crusty.

Or a much more reasonable explanation like maybe they work nights. But no you stick to the nonsensical explanations that nobody even suggested. Shoot those ones down and hope nobody notices that you completely ignored the more sensible possibility.

Also, for the record, I don't think many people would disagree that plenty of the people propping up the bar are scrounging. I certainly don't. But there's a difference between asserting that they are all paying their way and refuting the assertion that they're not. Can you not see that?

No it hasn't.

he he heh the fookers I see staggering out of the pub after a days supping the sauce are certainly not working nights.

Well maybe unless your company employs soaks who can hardly stand and for whom reality is a drink sodden haze.... :eek: then again maybe they do;)

colly10 · 15-05-2009 12:05AM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

he he heh the fookers I see staggering out of the pub after a days supping the sauce are certainly not working nights.

Did it ever cross your mind that many of these people possibly suffer a medical condition which results in them having difficulty standing?
No, you like some of the others on this thread go on the assumption that these people have been drinking just cause you see them falling out the door of a pub :rolleyes:

Sharpshooter · 15-05-2009 12:09AM

colly10 wrote: »

Did it ever cross your mind that many of these people possibly suffer a medical condition which results in them having difficulty standing?
No, you like some of the others on this thread go on the assumption that these people have been drinking just cause you see them falling out the door of a pub :rolleyes:

Alcoholism?

Dudess · 15-05-2009 12:23AM

I don't see anything wrong with a person wearing pyjamas any time of day and anywhere... however it also appears to be something which scumbags do.

Shouldn't be assumed that everyone who does it is a scumbag though unless there's good reason. E.g. if a woman is buying milk in Centra at 8.30, she could be a busy mother and there's no harm in her dashing out quickly in what is still decent coverage.

People here are just saying don't assume someone like the above is a scumbag - it's a pyjamas, big deal. It's not that different to a tracksuit. And people here aren't "defending" those who scrounge, neglect their children, commit petty crime etc...

Pyjamas > Pub > PM - WTF?

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