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Election Poster Watch

  • 11-05-2009 03:03PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭


    Never ceases to amaze me how liberally the "must not be a danger to traffic" rule is applied to election posters.

    I haven't any really obvious dangerous ones yet but I suspect they will emerge as less space available for posters. I have noticed railings on pedestrian crossing pretty much all covered with posters now - could be dangerous as may not see small children at crossings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,327 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Finnqa Fail posters are all dangerous, you nearly have to stop the car to see which party there with..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭McSpud


    Finnqa Fail posters are all dangerous, you nearly have to stop the car to see which party there with..

    Probably more of a political discussion but I am surprised they found a font they might as well be using invisible ink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Hal1


    They shouldn't be allowed put them where they like. Keep them only at the polling stations. They are too dangerous as they distract you from the road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    In terms of this thread, please keep discussions limited to visibility issues, safety issues and whatever else affects you while driving.
    No political commentary, littering gripes etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,745 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Had to swerve to avoid one in Drogheda on Sunday. Strong winds had blown it off whichever stupid place they'd fixed it to. I'm sure there was a radio warning about dislodged posters in South Dublin on friday morning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭TomMc


    I think anyone who puts them on (the poles of) traffic signs should be fined. Saw quite a few on stop/speed limit signs yesterday near a national school. Bad enough having them on every second telephone/ESB post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,888 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    could you report the poster to the council ? would they have to do anything about it ? just wondering

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    AFAIK you can, there was a guy on one of the morning radio shows saying that exact thing - if you see them blocking visibility or otherwise causing a nusance you call a phone number (local council?) and someone is charged with taking them down.

    Does anyone have any more info than that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    I found one of these posters in the car lot in work, under the wheel of a car. No visible damage to the car, if there was, at least I'd know who to go to:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,329 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    I found one of these posters in the car lot in work, under the wheel of a car. No visible damage to the car, if there was, at least I'd know who to go to:P

    Pity it wasnt the actual politician you found under the wheel.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Hal1 wrote: »
    They shouldn't be allowed put them where they like. Keep them only at the polling stations. They are too dangerous as they distract you from the road.
    I was driving from the M50 towards the Spawell roundabout this evening and looking at the amount of posters. I was commenting to my passenger on how there were so many and how were you meant to see the signs when I caught a glimpse of a transit parked amongst the line of posters.
    As I was slightly over the limit, thank feck that the posters made me take my eyes off the road!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Hal1


    They should impose fines for it. Is it worth complaining about? I doubt anything would be done since theres about 20 thousand of them all over the country now.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    In order to impose fines for it, you would need proper legislation. And who comes up with the legislation?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,480 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    There are a load of posters completely blocking the view of the traffic lights on the set of lights after leaving Clonliffe Rd heading for East Wall Road.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Labour have little red signs on the N11, these are definitely designed with the shameless intent to look like road signs. Its a disgrace, they are small square signs and put at an angle, i.e. like a diamond, just red & white. They look nothing like other posters and are certainly distracting.

    There was talk of forcing them to use party specific cable ties too. The incompetent lazy bastards who put the signs up never cut back the cable ties. Then when they rip them down they leave the cable ties. I have been cycling at ~40kph and been struck in the face by cable ties, many are at eye level. If they do have to cut the cable ties to get a poster down they are often left on the cycletracks which again is extremely dangerous at high speed on narrow tyres.

    Dunno how they are not just scrapped if a single accident is caused by these things (which I am certain there has been) then they should be outlawed.

    Also they have all ignored the dlrcoco guidelines of no posters being below 2.5m.


    http://www.dlrcoco.ie/Meetings/2009/DDHWWEDCEC/MAR09.htm
    Guidelines Relating to the Display of Election Poster:

    1. Election posters should only be erected after an election has been declared and a polling date determined.

    2. In accordance with the Litter Pollution Act 1997 election posters and ties must be removed within 7 days after polling date. Failure to do so may result in prosecution. The associated fixing arrangement particularly plastic ties must be removed at the same time the poster is being removed.

    3. No adhesive or metal fixings are permitted.

    4. All posters should be manufactured from cardboard composites or other recyclable materials.

    5. The Party or individual responsible for the poster must be clearly indicated on the poster.

    6. Posters must not be erected as follows:

    a. on lamp standards with overhead line electricity feed,

    b. on traffic signal poles,

    c. on bridge parapets, overpasses and on pedestrian bridges

    d. on roadside traffic barriers

    e. on traffic poles or statutory signage of any type including stop, yield, cycletrack, parking control, etc.

    f. on Motorways

    g. must not obstruct the view of traffic lights or road signs,

    h. must not block or obstruct motorists view of pedestrians, i.e. pedestrian barriers, or railings.

    7. There should be a minimum clearance of 2.5 metres (8ft) from the lower edge of any poster to ground level and no posters should be placed higher than 6.5 metres (20ft) from the ground.

    8. A maximum of two posters per candidate is permitted on any lamp or standard pole.

    9. Political parties/independent candidates are reminded that no claims for damages arising from placing, displaying or removal of their posters will lie with the Council and they may consider it appropriate to take out Public Liability Insurance in this regard.

    Election posters that do not comply with these conditions or that are erected on Council property prior to the declaration of an election will be removed by the Council. In the event of a breach of the Litter Pollution Act, 1997 prosecutions may be initiated.

    After a brief discussion during which John Guckian answered Members queries, the Councillors requested that the Manager examine the possibility of implementing a scheme similar to Dublin City Council’s system whereby posters are removed at a cost to the parties. J. Guckian AGREED to come back to the Members with a report on the feasibility of this scheme in Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭McSpud


    I notice all the low level signs for some Independent which were strapped to the railings at the Cabra cross roads junctions have ben removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    All the party's seem to have gone to hell with their posters this time around.

    Here in Mullingar they have them on all the "yield" and blue arrow signs on all the roundabouts which is bang out of order.

    Rang the Co.Co. this morning and the girl said that they had had a number of complaints already and the engineer was "looking into it"!

    With all this talk of the money being wasted on quangos you would think that the RSA would have done something about this already.:rolleyes:

    Councils should have designated areas in each constituency where all parties could put up their posters and nowhere else is allowed this would surely solve the road safety issues.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Here in athlone the signs are placed everywhere. I'd say very few of the regulations regarding where the posters are being followed. I've seen them all along railings at roundabouts (near Aldi), on the bridges over the by-pass, on every type of pole in the town, etc etc. Very few are 8ft off the ground.

    They are certainly a distraction while driving, and those Labour ones that are diamond shaped are a disgrace!

    Where do we stand if a poster is blocking the view for road users? Can we get out of the car and remove the poster to make junctions safer? Or do we just ring the council and let them do nothing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    theres lots of them blowing around the countryside after being ripped down with all the recent high winds! Bloody nuicence, waste of money & un neccassary if you ask me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,544 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Believe it or believe it not, there's a full set of lights behind these posters !


    God love the poor child that has a green man to cross that road.............

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    That's a disgrace!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,544 ✭✭✭MarkN


    Emailed this to gay.mitchell@europarl.europa.eu

    Perhaps you should have this removed before a serious accident occurs or an innocent child is killed.



    It’s across from Lambe & O’Connor at Annesley Bridge.



    I’m sure a life is more important than a vote,



    Yours truly,


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    well done Mark.
    Let us know the response.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,480 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    MarkN wrote: »
    Believe it or believe it not, there's a full set of lights behind these posters !


    God love the poor child that has a green man to cross that road.............

    n560441784_1898952_1996144.jpg
    That's the one I mentioned above. Pretty sure Mitchell is not the only offender on that pole.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Quint


    Loads of them block traffic lights. And the new plastic ones are probably one of the most dangerous things you can drive over on a motorcycle, it's like hitting a square of ice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    Labour have a dangerous one blocking view of a roundabout beside where Keogh's BMW was. I'm going to mail them tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭seclachi


    The biggest threat I have seen so far comes from Toiréasa Ferris, pretty blondes on posters tend to be distracting ! :pac:


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