The Viper as Debt Collecter

thelordofcheese · 11-05-2009 03:17PM

RaverRo808 wrote: »

Whats the big deal,what exactly is the role of a debt collector,and what power do they have,other then being able to knock at the door and go 'wheres the money'

And other questions such as

"When are you going to get the money?"
‘Why aren’t you getting the money now?"
And so on...

Aidric · 11-05-2009 04:31PM

There used to be a piece of tat on bravo following debt collectors around in the UK, it's mind numbing work. However, with an ex scum like the viper RTE could have a ratings hit on the cards if they commissioned a fly on the wall piece.

me_right_one · 11-05-2009 06:42PM

Joey the lips wrote: »

These people are usually paid commission and legally so what happens is a cheque is written to the person the debt is owed to and then the collector issues the sames person with an invoice which is paid for by a cheque.

A kinda legal way - good isnt it

I'm not sure I understand. So if somebody owed me E10K, and I hired the viper to get it at a commision of say, 10%, he would pay me a cheque for E11K, and then bill me for E1K? So I get my money, he gets his fee, and then the debtor owes the viper the rest. Is that it?

Capt'n Midnight · 11-05-2009 07:04PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

And other questions such as

"When are you going to get the money?"
‘Why aren’t you getting the money now?"
And so on...

And enquiring about your health.
And the health of your loved ones too.
They are very helpful when it comes to feng-sui and may even offer to rearrange the furniture.

Capt'n Midnight · 11-05-2009 07:07PM

me_right_one wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand. So if somebody owed me E10K, and I hired the viper to get it at a commision of say, 10%, he would pay me a cheque for E11K, and then bill me for E1K? So I get my money, he gets his fee, and then the debtor owes the viper the rest. Is that it?

not quite

first off you now owe the Viper 1K <cue scary music>

IIRC you either pay a comission so you get LESS than 10K when it gets paid
or you could sell the debt on and get a LOT less than 10K but you get it now

Aidric · 11-05-2009 07:14PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

IIRC you either pay a comission so you get LESS than 10K when it gets paid
or you could sell the debt on and get a LOT less than 10K but you get it now

Yes, the company will not recoup the full 10K because of the charges owed to the debt collector. The debt collector agrees to purchase the debt from the company and take on all the risks associated with its collection for a certain % up front, thereby aiding cash flow to the business. The balance is paid over less the debt collectors commission.

genericguy · 11-05-2009 07:21PM

"we will give you 24 hours to get the moneys. and just to show you we're serious, you have 12 hours."

thelordofcheese · 11-05-2009 08:52PM

genericguy wrote: »

"we will give you 24 hours to get the moneys. and just to show you we're serious, you have 12 hours."

Thank allah someone got it.

11-05-2009 09:09PM

Scien wrote: »

Well if someones business burnt down i would feel sorry for the guy but i'd still expect to be paid (eventually) for the materials or goods i sold him .

Not paying your debts is one of the most dishonourable things a man can do in my book.

Hiring a scumbag to terrorise a family outside their home, instead of going through the courts is even more dishonorable in my book.

Only reason that scumbag is still alive is, because "coked out of their head freaks"" were sent to do the jobs on him.

My german shepards answer the door anyway...:)

genericguy · 11-05-2009 09:22PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Thank allah someone got it.

I've got your back bruh, meant to quote you but after a few years of lurking and not posting I'm only figuring out the decorum...

stovelid · 11-05-2009 09:32PM

How worried would you be, in fairness? Guy puts a finger on you and it ends up in court:

Yes judge, I am the well-known, former gangland figure, The Viper.

Yes, I did set up a debt-collection agency specifically named after my criminal nickname.

No, of course I didn't strike that man. Or threaten him.

What do you mean you're going to take the word of a local, politically-connected businessman over mine?

galwayrush · 11-05-2009 09:35PM

Once a scumbag, always a scumbag. He obviously is using his notorious reputation as an intimidation tactic no matter how above board he portrays himself to be.:rolleyes:

Wile E. Coyote · 11-05-2009 09:52PM

He has been running this business for a few years, it's only coming to public knowledge recently because it's been reported in a few papers.

Debt collection agencies are nothing new and he happens to run a very successful one. He will always be a criminal scumbag but if you ran a business that was going to the wall because people wouldn't pay their debts I'm sure a few of you would consider availing of his services.

galwayrush · 11-05-2009 09:54PM

I would be afraid that once you become involved with scumbags, you are caught in a trap, the way they operate could easily turn into protectionism.

passive · 11-05-2009 10:00PM

Being apparently invincible probably helps him in this line of work...

S.I.R · 11-05-2009 10:10PM

Queen-Mise wrote: »

snip

is he supposed to be scary... or hardy or something ?

not trying to be agro but he looks the bloke thats big and muscly but one punch and he hits the deck... wouldn't get a cent out of me

Armin_Tamzarian · 11-05-2009 10:16PM

S.I.R wrote: »

is he supposed to be scary... or hardy or something ?

not trying to be agro but he looks the bloke thats big and muscly but one punch and he hits the deck... wouldn't get a cent out of me

Poll being created.
"Who would win a fight between The Viper and S.I.R".

ronnie3585 · 11-05-2009 10:39PM

The_Coon wrote: »

Poll being created.
"Who would win a fight between The Viper and S.I.R".

A bull**** fight of course?

galwayrush · 11-05-2009 10:55PM

The_Coon wrote: »

Poll being created.
"Who would win a fight between The Viper and S.I.R".

Of course the Viper would never fight on his own,;)And he has a secret weapon, he can dodge bullets.

TomRooney · 12-05-2009 02:24AM

the viper should be renamed batfink, "my vings are like a shield of steel"

Sofiztikated · 12-05-2009 07:07AM

Yes S.I.R, one gets to be a the leader of quite a well known criminal gang by being an easy one to knock down.

Afraid its not as simple as that.

Although, having met the chap in a work situation (I was working, not him:P) he's actually quite a pleasant customer. Tips well. Doesn't let his party interfer with others.

However, I wouldn't f**k with him. Even just sitting there, he does tend to project an aura of, whats the words, oh yes, vicious bast*rdness about him.

If it came to the bit of me owning a business that owed money to 2 companies, one using his firm to collect money, and one not, I know who I'd be paying first.

hussey · 12-05-2009 07:16AM

How would anyone recognise him without the black stripe over his eyes?

omyatari · 12-05-2009 08:05AM

wonder if any of the folks he went to claim money of ever woke up with a horses head in their beds....:D

itsalongday · 25-08-2011 09:16PM

anybody have a contact for him??

squod · 25-08-2011 10:55PM

itsalongday wrote: »

anybody have a contact for him??

I'd think twice fella. Snakes don't care who they bite.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2010/05/12/3997030-viper-debt-recovery-visits-cavan/

biko · 25-08-2011 11:10PM

Fear the Viper!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKZTR3d-pmg

Geekness1234 · 25-08-2011 11:14PM

He'll make you an offer you can't refuse.

tfitzgerald · 25-08-2011 11:17PM

Well he would frighten me anyway but he wouldn't get money off him . Can't give him what I don't have:(

bayern282 · 25-08-2011 11:38PM

the Chinese just hang characters like him and his ilk, they don't give them catchy nicknames and expect the ordinary decent joe soap to buy the Sunday World and Evening Herald to jerk off about them.

Solnskaya · 25-08-2011 11:42PM

Okey dokey, I have had some dealings with the debt collection business, ie been there done that, but what follows is pure conjecture and speculation and in no way reflects reality nor refers to any party, company or individual. It is a purely fictitious post dredged from the pages of a cheap paperback, but I will post it anyway.

Debt collector(we'll call him "the Donkey") calls to your door-"Good evening Sir, I am "the donkey" and I have been hired by (insert clients name) to collect a sum of monies, please be a good fellow and furnish me with said sum immediatly, or quite soon, please".
Debtor-"feck off, I don't have it".
Donkey-"Oh dear, how unfortunate, but never mind, I am certainly not going to break your legs, the very thought is preposterous, nor am I going to have my young, wild eyed skanger mate Whacker come back late this very evening and set fire to your left testicle, whilst hanging your prized cat from the washing line and smashing every window in your home, much to the chagrin of your beloved family, for I am a legitimate businessman and would never stoop to such lowness, nor would I or my deeply dodgy, very scary associates follow you everywhere in an intimidating fashion"
Debtor-"who did you say you were again?"
Donkey-"I am Sammy Smythe, popularly known as "the Donkey"
Debtor-"I have reviewed my financial priorities kind sir, and here is the sum I was remiss enough not to have forwarded to your client"
Donkey-"Excellent, good day to you sir"
Donkey keeps 10-20%, client is well chuffed. Donkey does not think that the 10-20% is worth the grief of hassling deadbeats all day every day. Or somthing like that.

The Viper as Debt Collecter

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