How will Lost end? Theory alert!!

homerun_homer · 07-05-2009 03:48PM

me-skywalker wrote: »

Thats a good one Homer - Two thigns with it.

1 - i believe the whole notion of them not wanting the plane to crash is completly obvious because they woudlnt want to put 'themselves' through this again... and then them off island(as kids now) wen they all reach that point it goes off as normal because they have averted it and the on island losties now in their 60's are still on the island delighted they saved the crash.

2 - if the plane was to crash as it did with them then the 'new' batch of themselves would do everything exaclty the same as the 'old' ones because thsi si what they have done. just keepin it in the loop on and and on and there woudl be several versions of themselves all 30yrs apart. ??

1 = Paradox, 2 alternate timelines with different versions of themselves existing at once, can't be possible (ok I'm no scientist but in the writers logic this isn't something they are going to do).

2- It's already shown that Miles is existing in the same time as himself as a kid and could interact with him if he chose. So yes there is every possibility that old version of the Losties could be on the island the same time as their younger selves when they crash in 2004.

JLemmon · 07-05-2009 03:48PM

homerun_homer wrote: »

Ok a new(ish?) theory sort of occured to me there. This may have been speculated on other sites or here even but I can't claim to have read about it anywhere else, I'm not claiming to personally read every single opinion and theory but here goes....

What if everything that has happened has been influenced by the Losties of 815. they have arrived back in time and it's slowly getting revealed that they are from the future. Though Jack may think he needs to follow through with Farraday's plan, what if he/they learn what they need to know about the island and it's importance and realise that everything that happened needs to keep happening that way (the whole time loop that they are in). Maybe this is due to the impending "War" that is always referred to and in present day, it is important that people like Locke etc are present.

The Others always had great knowledge of people and what would happen, what if they were being fed this information by the Losties, who never subsequently jump back to 2007. Maybe they remain and keep hidden from themselves when they eventually crashland. If they stay there and age the 30 years then they have a wealth of information of future events ouside the island (hence Widmore and Ben etc being able to get so rich easily) and inside the island. This could in turn be how Hawking and Widmore have a vested interest in Desmond. Jack can tell them about him and what he did. He wasn't merely the guy Widmore didn't want dating his daughter, he knew he had to motivate him to end up on the island and causing 815 to crash.

Obviously why the Others kidnap many of the 815 survivors is a mystery, maybe Jack and co say that these people didn't participate in the events following on so the Others take them out of the equation to keep them from harm or messing things up.

I'm only speculating and throwing this idea out there to discuss. There could be a thousand holes in this idea, if so what are they.

You won't be far off I'd say with that one, we will see next week how much of it will be realised.

homerun_homer · 07-05-2009 03:49PM

Greener wrote: »

Em I might be missing something but why do you presume he's dead? (faraday)

I ddint see him actually die and even still we have seen locke come back from the dead!!

Come on dude, he's dead. Listen to recent podcast if you don't want to believe it.

homerun_homer · 07-05-2009 03:50PM

JLemmon wrote: »

You won't be far off I'd say with that one, we will see next week how much of it will be realised.

I've not seen the newest episode. I'd usually have it Thursday mornings to watch in work but the elements of the internet were against me so I don't know how much the new ep will help this theory along.

Greener · 07-05-2009 03:51PM

We'll see!!!

homerun_homer · 07-05-2009 04:12PM

Greener wrote: »

We'll see!!!

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him return, be it in flashbacks or visions but myself and majority of fans are confident he is dead. If he came back I'll be gladl to be proved wrong since I liked him in the show, but I think you need to get your wreath at the ready.

brobref · 08-05-2009 06:48AM

they never left the island in the first place.............

me-skywalker · 08-05-2009 12:56PM

care to explain?

homerun_homer · 08-05-2009 01:54PM

me-skywalker wrote: »

care to explain?

Exactly, noone wants these lazy posts which is probably just trolling.

Niall0 · 08-05-2009 07:27PM

brobref wrote: »

they never left the island in the first place.............

well... actually they did

brobref · 08-05-2009 08:18PM

sad professor asked me to edit my post, my god it's just a tv programme at the end of the day!it's not like it's an origianl story line.....have you not seen "20,000 leagues under the sea "...

Niall0 · 08-05-2009 11:49PM

brobref wrote: »

well,
not too sure if everyone has seen the latest episode but[/B]

Sad Professor · 09-05-2009 01:06AM

brobref, please edit your post to remove spoilers from 5x15. It hasn't aired on RTE yet so a lot of people haven't seen it.

cooker3 · 09-05-2009 06:24AM

I really don't think the ending will involve a changing of the timeline or the losties stopping flight 815 crashing in 2004. To me, this goes against everything the writers have said. I know we have seen the idea of people thinking they can change the timeline and trying to do it but I am 99% certain this will not happen and everything will happen as it should do and likely their actions will cause the incident and so on.

I heard an interview with Darlton saying the endgame of the show has always been the characters and coming to terms with whatever flaws they have etc. Just think of all who have died such as Charlie, eko, Michael etc who redeem themselves. I think the ending will be fairly complex, there will be no 1 defining omg mindf*ck scene and you will not be able to sum it up in 1 line.

I think Jack will finally meet Christian Shephard and come to terms with the fixation to fix everything. Kate will leave, settle somewhere and stop running. Juliet will get off the island and settle down with Sawyer. Locke will stay on the island or maybe sacrifice himself for it. Ben and Widmore will destroy each other. I can see Aaron and Walt having an involvement, future leaders or something. Desmond and Penny become Adam and Eve. Sayed will die but will sacrifice himself for someone and finally Hurley, hmmn not sure, he goes on a diet or something like that.

Our man in Havana · 09-05-2009 05:20PM

brobref wrote: »

sad professor asked me to edit my post, my god it's just a tv programme at the end of the day!it's not like it's an origianl story line.....have you not seen "20,000 leagues under the sea "...

I suggest that you cop yourself on.

Helix · 10-05-2009 06:32PM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I reckon it will likely end up being that the rest of the Losties get off the island but that Jack and Locke must stay and go back to the events of the first episode. From watching the first episode it seems to me that Jack and Locke know too much about the island up until their confrontations with the Monster when they seem to forget everything (or at least important things that could disrupt events). I think effectively both Jack and Locke sacrifice themselves to a timeloop.

having watched the first episode a few times in the last while, i suspect youre almost right

except its neither jack nor locke who are the ones who go back, from watching it im almost convinced itll be hurley

watch it again with that in mind

mathie · 11-05-2009 11:06AM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I reckon it will likely end up being that the rest of the Losties get off the island but that Jack and Locke must stay and go back to the events of the first episode. From watching the first episode it seems to me that Jack and Locke know too much about the island up until their confrontations with the Monster when they seem to forget everything (or at least important things that could disrupt events). I think effectively both Jack and Locke sacrifice themselves to a timeloop.
I suspect another big reveal will be that Jacob is in fact Jack, perhaps sent back from the original Oceanic plane crash and stuck in some sort of warped timeframe. This I think is why Christian and Claire hang about Jacob's cabin and why Jacob wants Locke to help him.

Of course I could be wrong.*

*Obligatory comment to save face later when it's revealed to be very wrong. :pac:

Donnie Darko called. It wants its plot back.

me-skywalker · 11-05-2009 03:28PM

If it is one continuous stream that they are travelling back and forth along, and Dan's reference to time being lieka broke record that it was jumping, if they are now back on that stream travelling forward im going to hazard a guess that Locke,Sun,Ben et all that are now in 2007 Stay there in 2007.
and Jack/Sayid/Hurley/Miles et all will cotinue to exist on island from 1977 forwards.

eddiehead · 11-05-2009 04:35PM

Helix wrote: »

having watched the first episode a few times in the last while, i suspect youre almost right

except its neither jack nor locke who are the ones who go back, from watching it im almost convinced itll be hurley

watch it again with that in mind

I'm just watching the first episode now, I'm liking this theory, Jack would be the favourite right now imo, may see how ep 2-4 pan out, from what I can remember though I would say Hurley or Locke could easily fit the bill too.

jor el · 11-05-2009 05:38PM

I don't know how it might end, but if the ending is a "reset" style, they never made it on to the Island in the first place, Dallas type one, I'd be very seriously pissed off.

Assuming Locke and Jack are still there, and alive (or as alive as a dead man can be), I could see them both making the decision to stay, especially if Jack has a meeting with his dead father at some point before the end.

me-skywalker · 12-05-2009 11:13AM

dallas style implies that it never happend in the first place... but what you dont understand is that if this was to happen in the lost world then it clearly obviously happens and the version of jack and kate and locke that are still island bound would continue to exist there in the knowledge that they've saved themselves setting off this loop.

brobref · 13-05-2009 08:27AM

Bond-007 wrote: »

I suggest that you cop yourself on.

Are you six yrs of age????? Maybe you got sucked into a timeline and now you think you're back on the playground in school...................

homerun_homer · 13-05-2009 02:48PM

me-skywalker wrote: »

If it is one continuous stream that they are travelling back and forth along, and Dan's reference to time being lieka broke record that it was jumping, if they are now back on that stream travelling forward im going to hazard a guess that Locke,Sun,Ben et all that are now in 2007 Stay there in 2007.
and Jack/Sayid/Hurley/Miles et all will cotinue to exist on island from 1977 forwards.

My theory on this is a few pages back. I believe they are alive, not dead as Richard said, and they have been there the whole time their younger selves had crashed on the island.
When you think about it - Eloise has to go from wanting to blow up Jughead to prevent herself killing her future son to making sure this event happens, and manipulates people, including Farraday to make it happen.
They must learn something in the finale, or very soon in the story that will turn her and the losties view of what is going on upside down and change their ways of thinking.

jor el wrote: »

I don't know how it might end, but if the ending is a "reset" style, they never made it on to the Island in the first place, Dallas type one, I'd be very seriously pissed off.

They couldn't do this, it would defeat the purpose of all the character arcs we've witnessed over the years and the producers have said character comes before story.

me-skywalker wrote: »

dallas style implies that it never happend in the first place... but what you dont understand is that if this was to happen in the lost world then it clearly obviously happens and the version of jack and kate and locke that are still island bound would continue to exist there in the knowledge that they've saved themselves setting off this loop.

2 versions of their futures existing at the same time = paradox and this will not happen according to the writers. It's all going to streamline into the one future. The one that has them in the past reliving the 70s.

brobref · 13-05-2009 04:09PM

but who's to say that farraday was right??? his mother sent him there knowing that she kills him, as she told Wtihmore in the last episode.... what happens in the future as we have seen it is because of what happened in the past, as we've seen it, so the only real way to change what MIGHT happen in the future is to NOT blow up jughead???????

purple_hatstand · 13-05-2009 04:19PM

Just to say from the get-go.....all of the below post is wild speculation and I have not seen any trailers, promos or spoilers for the Finale. And neither do I want to. This is just some good, old-fashioned hunchin'....we'll see....

The set-up for the Season5 Finale is great and don't forget it's a double episode so there's twice as much mayhem to look forward to as usual.

Sawyer is surely going to be forced into a situation where he has to choose between Juliet and Kate and I would imagine that none of them gets off the island....

...because....

...of 'The Incident' which is clearly going to involve Jack, Sayid and Eloise's plan to detonate 'Jughead' at the Swan station. This is more likely to be the cause of everything we've seen in LOST so far than the prevention of it (there's been plenty of evidence of this type of thing so far in Season5). Jack, Sayid and Eloise could possibly stumble upon young Ben down in the Temple and its tunnels and maybe some meaning of Alpert's reference to "lost innocence" will reveal itself.

The 2007 storylines are arguably far harder to predict (because they haven't happened yet:p). The Locke/Ben/Richard/Jacob scenario should be brilliant and could go literally anywhere (or anytime!). I expect to see some reintroduction of Claire and Christian as part of this storyline.

There is also the storyline involving Ilana etc...and "What Lies In The Shadow Of The Statue" which might prove to be a setup for a central part of Season6. Des and Penny will be in, Sun and Jin will be reunited and a major character will die.

I don't even want to start speculating about Season6 because it makes my brain hurt! I have loved every minute of this season so far and can't wait for this Finale.

brobref · 13-05-2009 04:50PM

well, just one point. as we've earlier ben did lokk rather confuesed when he ended up in the temple ( as if this was all new to even him) so i reckon we wno't be finding a young ben playing in the dirt......

chrisp2281 · 13-05-2009 04:53PM

doonothing wrote: »

I think Lost will end with them averting the plane crash, and the final scene will be the passengers of 815 getting off the plane with brief flashforwards showing their lives sans-island. Tenner bets!

Fingers crossed nothing as cringey as some Jack/Kate flirtation is involved eh?

That's exactly what I was saying to my girlfriend last night. They keep going on about how they can change the past by setting off the bomb so that seems the best ending.

Although, it does eem like they just make it up as they go along so who knows

jor el · 13-05-2009 05:38PM

me-skywalker wrote: »

dallas style implies that it never happend in the first place...

OK, not quite Dallas style, but if it ends with them preventing themselves from ever getting on the Island (outside of the time loop), then that would be a cop-out ending.

Our man in Havana · 13-05-2009 06:13PM

Brobref banned for 1 month.

How will Lost end? Theory alert!!

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