20p coin (1985) worth anything??

jgally · 13-10-2008 10:03am #1

I have a 1985 20p coin that is in great condition. How long will I have to wait until its worth anything decent??

Degsy · 13-10-2008 2:22pm

jgally wrote: »

I have a 1985 20p coin that is in great condition. How long will I have to wait until its worth anything decent??

I'm no expert but i'd imagine a hundred years or so!

jaycen · 13-10-2008 2:24pm

about 22c right now although you'd have to pay to convert it.

growler · 21-10-2008 7:24pm

jgally wrote: »

I have a 1985 20p coin that is in great condition. How long will I have to wait until its worth anything decent??

a century or two should see it become worth a bit , keep it safe!!

cregser · 21-10-2008 7:30pm

growler wrote: »

a century or two should see it become worth a bit , keep it safe!!

What about a 1999 IR£10 note? It's not mint condition, but not ripped or anything. I found it in an old coat a few years back and never bothered to convert it.

Judgement Day · 21-10-2008 10:21pm

cregser wrote: »

What about a 1999 IR£10 note? It's not mint condition, but not ripped or anything. I found it in an old coat a few years back and never bothered to convert it.

As far as I know the Central Bank in Dame Street will still exchange old bank notes at the Euro rate but otherwise it is virtually worthless. You could try eBay but it would need to be in mint condition and even then you probably wouldn't get much for it.

Sam Kade · 21-10-2008 10:39pm

I have a 1908 coin badly worn I don't think that it would be worth much.

dermo88 · 26-10-2008 6:08am

http://www.irishcoinage.com/DECCAT.HTM

The 1985 20 pence is in fact an extreme rarity. In 1985 prior to the introduction of the new twenty pence piece in 1986 a quantity of coins dated 1985 were struck for testing. Some of these coins escaped being melted down and are in private hands. I have heard of only a very small number of exchanges of these coin and the prices I have heard for them have varied widely. I believe that the minimum number identified in collections (as opposed to sitting gathering dust somewhere without its value being understood but its owner) is four. I suspect thate the number is somewhat higher than this but certainly the coin is extremely rare and because the original production run was apparently very small with only perhaps 50 coins being released for vending machine testing etc. it is unlikely to turn up in significant quantitiies which is always the 'danger' with assigning high prices to modern rarities.

GUNMONEY · 01-11-2008 2:07pm

Can you post a picture?

jgally wrote: »

I have a 1985 20p coin that is in great condition. How long will I have to wait until its worth anything decent??

Blade · 08-11-2008 12:29pm

Yeh post a picture of both sides please, I'd be interested too, please don't sell it without talking to me first. If it is indeed a 1985

Degsy, Jaycen and Grolwer: Please don't give advice about things you don't know.

the GALL · 20-11-2008 11:53pm

if it has a smoothedge/not milled
consider yourself about €10,000 richer
if not it's back to work for you on monday

Blade · 21-11-2008 1:57am

the GALL wrote: »

if it has a smoothedge/not milled
consider yourself about €10,000 richer
if not it's back to work for you on monday

Smooth edge or not the 1985 20p is ext. rare and still worth in that region. To be honest I suspect the OP is bull$hitting about having one. I've seen some chancers offering 50 Euro for them in adverts like buy and sell

the GALL · 21-11-2008 10:29am

I thought all 1985 20p were smooth and used by telecom engineers to test the phone box's. They were initially issued with a smooth edge as a token to test the weight of the coin to calibrate the phone box and were to be handed back after the testing was complete. Hey OP send us on a photo of the edge I'd love to get a look at it(ya jammy B**stard, ya:)).

No OP's feeling were hurt in the makeing of this thread(I hope's)

jd10 · 24-03-2009 6:36pm

just wondering would anyone know if an irish pound coin with part milled edge is worth anything? i know a pound coin with a full milled edge is worth about 20 euro but would my coin be worth more or less???

i have also come across a lead pound coin - anyone ever heard about these? obviously counterfeit but its just something interesting to keep in my collection.

Blade · 24-03-2009 7:59pm

jd10 wrote: »

just wondering would anyone know if an irish pound coin with part milled edge is worth anything? i know a pound coin with a full milled edge is worth about 20 euro but would my coin be worth more or less???

i have also come across a lead pound coin - anyone ever heard about these? obviously counterfeit but its just something interesting to keep in my collection.

20 euro is a fair evaluation for a fully milled edge pound coin. The partly milled ones would not be worth as much, I'd say between 5 and 10 euro tops. I've come across a lot more partly milled ones plus they don't have the same numismatic appeal or interest.

Lead pound coins were a common counterfeit alright, basically cast and intented to deceive at the time. But it's also possible to create them today, so for that reason they don't have a high value, I picked one up for a fiver. All these coins have an important numismatic history so you should keep them in your collection.

You probably know already but the milled pounds didn't go through the second phase which was to add the security engrailing. The milling is done together with the face strikes, all in one strike.

jd10 · 26-03-2009 6:16pm

i definitely wouldnt be gettin rid of them for the sake of a few quid. times aren't that hard....... yet!!!

thanks

PiperB · 21-04-2009 2:25pm

just read your posting regarding the 1985 20p coint, If this is in mint condition it is actually worth between €5000 and €10000 there were only 300 20p coins issued in 1985 for the sole purpose of calibrating coin boxes and cigarette machines before the coins were issued in 1986. All the coins were returned to the mint except for 35 which are still out there somewhere, if you have one, good for you. The Derec Mooney show on Radio 1 did an article on this last year. Best of luck with it anyway

gversey · 06-05-2009 10:02am

1969 10p
1968 penny
1963 penny
1989 Isle of Man 50p with a christmas scene on the front
1988 millenium 50p
1970 50p
1984 pound note(not great condition)
1952 5 pound note

and one of these

peanuthead · 06-05-2009 10:05am

dermo88 wrote: »

http://www.irishcoinage.com/DECCAT.HTM

The 1985 20 pence is in fact an extreme rarity. .

If this is true then it could actually be worth something, but not for a while. My dad has been looking for a particular coin from 1932 I think its a penny, only a couple hundred of them made, anytime I go to a car boot sale etc.. I'm always elbows thick in dirty old coins looking for one. Have never found one though!!

GUNMONEY · 06-05-2009 10:38am

The 1985 20 pence reached €7,400 in an auction a few weeks ago, didn't sell at that price.

GUNMONEY · 06-05-2009 10:48am

Sorry no early retirement.;)

gversey wrote: »

1969 10p
1968 penny 50ct
1963 penny 50ct
1989 Isle of Man 50p with a christmas scene on the front €2.50
1988 millenium 50p €1
1970 50p 60ct
1984 pound note(not great condition) €3
1952 5 pound note Depends on condition

and one of these

gversey · 06-05-2009 1:26pm

Ah well,better stash them for another few years..

5 pound note is in great nick.

thewing · 06-05-2009 1:46pm

I miss the old coins...I could count them

Blade · 06-05-2009 2:36pm

gversey wrote: »

Ah well,better stash them for another few years..

Hehe, bury them in a time capsule, they might be worth something in a couple of thousand years.

gversey wrote: »

5 pound note is in great nick.

Then that could be worth something, depends on the exact condition though.

depaor · 06-05-2009 2:46pm

Hi,

I was going to start a post about this and saw the 20p ne so just siad I'd add it on.

My mum collects coins and because of that as kids we always kept coins that we came across that were different.

I have a 1990 Irish Pound coin - when is the only one I have ever seen - it must have been from an initial lot that was recalled i would think as the sides of it are exactly like and old 10p. Totally different from the side of the one that was in circulation for years.
Does anyone know if this is unique or worth anything?

Thanks.

Blade · 06-05-2009 3:28pm

depaor wrote: »

I have a 1990 Irish Pound coin - when is the only one I have ever seen - it must have been from an initial lot that was recalled i would think as the sides of it are exactly like and old 10p. Totally different from the side of the one that was in circulation for years.
Does anyone know if this is unique or worth anything?

These are known as "milled edge" pound coins. It's worth about 20 Euro.

I found some at the time back in 1990 and there was an article in the news paper about them, foolishly I never kept the article even though I was advised to. The 2 faces of the coin and the edge milling are struck all at the same time, in one go. Later in phase 2 the security engrailling was added. basically these "milled edge" ones didn't go through phase 2 and escaped into circulation. This wasn't unique to the very first year of 1990, it happened in later years too. You may also notice 2 little marks on opposite ends on the edge where the coin was held in place.

suey71 · 06-05-2009 3:44pm

i have just found a 1737 george II irish farthing. its black from being in the ground for a couple of centuries. any idea how to clean it up.? thanks

citizen_p · 10-05-2009 2:36pm

suey71 wrote: »

i have just found a 1737 george II irish farthing. its black from being in the ground for a couple of centuries. any idea how to clean it up.? thanks

if you want to sell it dont clean it......
it reduces the value by hundreds in some cases....(not saying yours is worth hundreds but...)

11-05-2009 11:27am

Blade wrote: »

These are known as "milled edge" pound coins. It's worth about 20 Euro.

I found some at the time back in 1990 and there was an article in the news paper about them, foolishly I never kept the article even though I was advised to. The 2 faces of the coin and the edge milling are struck all at the same time, in one go. Later in phase 2 the security engrailling was added. basically these "milled edge" ones didn't go through phase 2 and escaped into circulation. This wasn't unique to the very first year of 1990, it happened in later years too. You may also notice 2 little marks on opposite ends on the edge where the coin was held in place.

Hi could you explain milled edge please?
the pound coins I have have like a serious of dots all artound coin, except for top and bottom of coin.
would this be a milled edge?

Blade · 11-05-2009 11:50am

Jake1 wrote: »

Hi could you explain milled edge please?
the pound coins I have have like a serious of dots all artound coin, except for top and bottom of coin.
would this be a milled edge?

No, that's the normal ones. The milled edge ones are all like this around the edge ||||||||||||

11-05-2009 11:59am

Blade wrote: »

No, that's the normal ones. The milled edge ones are all like this around the edge ||||||||||||

ok thanks,
but I also wondered is it around face of coin or edge?

Blade · 11-05-2009 12:01pm

It's just the edge we're talking about here, not the face.

bladespin · 11-05-2009 12:02pm

Blade wrote: »

These are known as "milled edge" pound coins. It's worth about 20 Euro.

I found some at the time back in 1990 and there was an article in the news paper about them, foolishly I never kept the article even though I was advised to. The 2 faces of the coin and the edge milling are struck all at the same time, in one go. Later in phase 2 the security engrailling was added. basically these "milled edge" ones didn't go through phase 2 and escaped into circulation. This wasn't unique to the very first year of 1990, it happened in later years too. You may also notice 2 little marks on opposite ends on the edge where the coin was held in place.

Aww

Have two of these, was hoping that would be the pension sorted

11-05-2009 12:15pm

Jake1 wrote: »

ok thanks,
but I also wondered is it around face of coin or edge?

thats the one I have so, its around edge not face.

So 20 euro maybe? not bad.
anyone know any coin dealers who might be interested

11-05-2009 12:17pm

also have those two little marks.

Blade · 11-05-2009 12:38pm

Jake, but you were saying it had a series of dots around the center of the edge? Then this would not be the milled edge variety.

11-05-2009 12:57pm

Blade wrote: »

Jake, but you were saying it had a series of dots around the center of the edge? Then this would not be the milled edge variety.

Hi hope this clears it up.

When I lay the coin on flat on the table, on the face all around the edge of face, the is series of dots.

When I look at coin from side view, the edge has those lines around it, but for two places where there are grooves.

Blade · 11-05-2009 1:13pm

Yeh I think you're talking about the normal ones. Give me 10 mins I'll upload a pic and clear it up.

11-05-2009 1:21pm

Blade wrote: »

Yeh I think you're talking about the normal ones. Give me 10 mins I'll upload a pic and clear it up.

That would be great thanks. My camera is not the best.

Im thinking myself its the not so worthy one

ps i have to run an errand soon, so I'll check back later.

Thanks again.

Blade · 11-05-2009 1:30pm

The one on the top is a normal pound coin and the one on the bottom is what a milled edge variety looks like. That's actually a half crown cause I don't know where mine are at the moment, but it looks the same.

http://www.irishcoins.net/Milled%20pound%20coin.jpg

Frowzy · 11-05-2009 1:43pm

This is a really interesting tread, Thanks OP!

I was wondering if anyone knew if there is somewhere that you can take your coins to be valued.

I have loads of old coins my grandmother had kept for some reason.

There are loads of old pennies, assumably from when we used to use British money. The oldest I can see seems to be from 1862, there a loads of different years up to the 1930's, all different, some with Victoria, some with George and some with Edward, the earlier one's actually have a young Victoria on them and the one's around the turn of te century have the older Victoria on them. There are loads of really old one's also, these were dug up from the garden of a old house we revovated in the UK, it's hard to make out the writing on some of them although one can clearly be made out with a date of 1804.

Loads of others, too many to list.
By the way does anyone know what year Ireland got it's own currency? I have old Irish coins but the oldest is 1943, probably not worth anythng anyway.
Thanks
F

Frowzy · 11-05-2009 1:48pm

Is this strange?
While looking through the box (well old biscuit tin) of coins I found another coin with the same picture of the Young Queen Victoria on, but it's dated 1861 and is a one cent coin. I think it says Novia Scotia on it?? Could this be? it's dirty, is it worthless, will I clean it up to see for sure?
F

kippy · 11-05-2009 1:52pm

I "Used" to collect coins, I've about 300 or so in the attic at the home place.
Is there any definitive site or even shop in Ireland where you could get them valued?

Kippy

Blade · 11-05-2009 1:57pm

Frowzy wrote: »

By the way does anyone know what year Ireland got it's own currency? I have old Irish coins but the oldest is 1943, probably not worth anythng

Well we got our free state currency in 1928 but there were coins struck in Ireland since 1000 AD. Depends what your 1943 coin is, if it's a half crown or florin it's valuable, if not no

Theres coin fairs in the RDS 3 times a year, that's the best place to bring your coins to be valued. Some dealers may not be honest with you if they spot a valuable coin in your lot. Most are honest but it depends who you talk to. The numismatics society have a stand at all the coin fairs and can give you honest valuations.

Blade · 11-05-2009 1:58pm

kippy wrote: »

I "Used" to collect coins, I've about 300 or so in the attic at the home place.
Is there any definitive site or even shop in Ireland where you could get them valued?

Kippy

If they are Irish, www.irishcoinage.com or use the information from my last post.

Blade · 11-05-2009 2:00pm

Frowzy wrote: »

will I clean it up to see for sure?

NEVER EVER clean coins.

Frowzy · 11-05-2009 2:57pm

Blade wrote: »

Depends what your 1943 coin is, if it's a half crown or florin it's valuable, if not no

I wish but unfortunately I only have penny's and half-penny's from 1943. Have an English Half crown from 1948 though, wonder if that's worth anything? Also a British 2 shilling coin...

Would foreign coins be worth anything? I seem to have a lot of french coins for some reason, and I know my grandmother was never there. Some dating back to the 1820's. One with Napoleon III on it.

I also have a special edition coin which was issued by the Midland Bank in 1981 to celebrate the marriage of Charles and Diana, I don't suppose it's old enough to be worth anything but does anyone know if it ever had a monetary value, doesn't seem to be written on it although it's still in the original Midland Bank packaging.

If coins aren't cleaned how do we tell when/where they're from? For example I have one here, clearly dug up from somewhere, it's hard to make anything out from it except a harp on the back and the date 180?, it's also really worn in places.

Sorry from droning on, I actually got the box out to look for a lucky six pence for my friend who's getting married this summer and I found 3, so that's a result anyway!
Thanks
F

Blade · 11-05-2009 3:24pm

Frowzy wrote: »

If coins aren't cleaned how do we tell when/where they're from? For example I have one here, clearly dug up from somewhere, it's hard to make anything out from it except a harp on the back and the date 180?, it's also really worn in places.

Dug coins need to be cleaned but must be done professionally. A dealer would know what a coin is even if it's covered in dirt, once some detail is visible. Without me seeing this coin you speak of I can tell you it has little or no value so it's not worth getting it cleaned. If I had it in my hand I could tell you exactly what it was, it may be a token but more likely it's an Irish George III 1805 or 1806 Penny/halfpenny or farthing, I'd know which by the size. None of these have any value when they are worn.

I've not much knowledge of foreign coins so I'd need to look them up in books or the web one by one. You could try this yourself by checking out ebay past and present auctions or google searches.

Frowzy · 11-05-2009 3:59pm

Thanks Blade!

Might have known they're not worth anything, I've just given the lot to the kids to play shop, may as well be good for something!

Back up to the attic to see if I have anything worth anything!!!!

F

11-05-2009 7:47pm

Blade wrote: »

The one on the top is a normal pound coin and the one on the bottom is what a milled edge variety looks like. That's actually a half crown cause I don't know where mine are at the moment, but it looks the same.

http://www.irishcoins.net/Milled%20pound%20coin.jpg

Hi this link was not working but I looked on Irish coinage and its the same as the one there.
Dots around the face, (shown) not shown ) and lines around the edge.

11-05-2009 7:49pm

many thanks for your help

20p coin (1985) worth anything??

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