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Irritating Matters in the Library

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  • #122
    Denerick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Denerick


    I was actually up at half eight this morning, so having a little geeze at my online war on Boards.ie certainly gives me a little life for the rest of the day. And nothing anyone can say will deter me from the belief that not only do I deserve to hog a desk for the day, I also deserve some kind of Blue Peter badge as well. As another user said, there are deserving and undeserving people in the library and I have a perfect right to lay claim to a good desk against other students who will wander in 'for an hour or two', flick through a few books and spend the remainder of their time having vacuous conversation with the friends. I have been made bitter by experience and by having such wishy washy library ideologies as you all appear to have. The library is the survival of the fittest folks. Get out or shut up!


  • #123
    Denerick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Awayindahils wrote: »
    Firstly given as this is an internet forum and insulting CS possibly not the best way to go about life. Its a totally valueable and useful degree, much like Arts. :p

    Secondly taking a guess based on the library being talked about which appears to be the BLU rather than the Hamiliton, the marxist stance on coke and through looking at his sig. I'm going to take a guess and say Denerick does History.

    Hardly a Marxist stance on Coke, my only stance was one of righteous scorn for spotty Marxist rebel kids who think they were making a stand against a big evil corporation. But thats for another day I suppose.

    And I will neither confirm or deny your speculation on my college course.


  • #124
    Awayindahils
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Awayindahils


    I like to sit in specific seats in the library and thats not because I am OCD. The only time stuff has ever been moved on me in the library is when I went to get a book from the Lecky and when I got back two D4 jock types had moved my stuff (I was one for about 7-8 minutes). Absolute toss heads who spoke for the whole day.

    i leave my stuff in the library inbetween lectures and during lunch, and I spend 6-8 hours a day in the library. Bringing my stuff out each time would be absolutely pointless. The times when i do not get back within and hour, I feel really bad and would ahve no objection to epople mvoing ym stuff, but recently I''ve been studying in a very unpopular area (inside the door of the Lecky) so no one is bothered to move my stuff.


    I hate the book spreading thing. i shaove my laptop/notes on top of theirs if they do that. And I hate when people work in the middle of the shared desks in the Ussher. The Black part of the desk is the part assigned for working, the wooden parts allow for personal spcae. i hate when girls, and it is always girls, work in the middle. I've had the leave the library due to that before. Very annoying.


  • #125
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Awayindahils wrote: »
    I really want to post nonsense and get this locked.

    Boston and Denerick,

    Any more of this and you're both gone.

    I was in bed, asleep, finished with this thread, I fail to see why I'm being issued warnings when I'm not active on the thread. I've been called a dickhead and a moron in this thread, why don't you go do something about that instead of hassling me with bull**** infractions.

    oh by the by, I'll continue to tell people to shut up as and when I feel like it. When you write it into the charter that people have to be mannerly to each other, maybe then I'll follow that directive.

    Edit: Actually missed the bit about getting an infraction for insulting CS, would you cop the **** on.


  • #126
    Jonathan
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,307 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Awayindahils wrote: »
    Firstly given as this is an internet forum and insulting CS possibly not the best way to go about life. Its a totally valueable and useful degree, much like Arts. :p

    Secondly taking a guess based on the library being talked about which appears to be the BLU rather than the Hamiliton, the marxist stance on coke and through looking at his sig. I'm going to take a guess and say Denerick does History.
    No shit sherlock.


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  • #127
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Randomness wrote: »
    Firstly, everyone needs to chill.

    Secondly, I think Denerick feels he wants to keep the specific OCD related seat he got first thing in the morning, I have no problem with this. Chances are it's in a quiet place none of us even know about. There are plenty of normal, non-OCD related seats to go around later in the day. While I agree that he has no right to the OCD seat or any seat, if he makes a conscious effort to get up early and get that seat then fair enough. Often times you'll find that people who come into the library later than people like Denerick are less specific seat inclined and therefore can sit wherever.

    Also this 15 minute thing seems a bit silly, if I was looking for a seat I'm hardly going to stand there for 15 minutes waiting for someone to either come back or not. You could say keep looking around and if someone is not there 15 minutes later than take it but what if the person comes back and says they were there during the 15 minutes, I have no proof that they weren't (unless I chose option (a), the desk stake-out) and I'm hardly one for library conflict.

    No one has yet mentioned the dreaded "book spreading" i.e people who make it seem like the desk beside them isn't free by spreading their stuff over two desks. I think you'll find this is actually the root cause of all this lack of desks woe.

    God the book spreading thing used to drive me nuts!

    It's a good while since I was in Trinity but we used to have little dockets that you filled out with the time and left on your desk. So other people would know when you were gone 15 mins.


  • #128
    Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    I heard someone mentioning the need for a "being away" permit to put at your place if you leave your desk. Is there any truth behind this? I once went to the Hamilton library to study, and there were no desks without people's stuff on them, despite only ~30% of the places actually having people at them. It's very demoralising for an eager, hard working fellow like myself when the opportunity to study is suddenly reft from you.


  • #129
    Denerick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Boston wrote: »
    I was in bed, asleep, finished with this thread, I fail to see why I'm being issued warnings when I'm not active on the thread. I've been called a dickhead and a moron in this thread, why don't you go do something about that instead of hassling me with bull**** infractions.

    oh by the by, I'll continue to tell people to shut up as and when I feel like it. When you write it into the charter that people have to be mannerly to each other, maybe then I'll follow that directive.

    Edit: Actually missed the bit about getting an infraction for insulting CS, would you cop the **** on.

    You poor, poor thing.


  • #130
    Denerick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Denerick


    Jonathan wrote: »
    No shit sherlock.

    Hmm..


  • #131
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Baza210 wrote: »
    I heard someone mentioning the need for a "being away" permit to put at your place if you leave your desk. Is there any truth behind this? I once went to the Hamilton library to study, and there were no desks without people's stuff on them, despite only ~30% of the places actually having people at them. It's very demoralising for an eager, hard working fellow like myself when the opportunity to study is suddenly reft from you.

    See my post above!


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  • #132
    ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI
    Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI


    Baza210 wrote: »
    I heard someone mentioning the need for a "being away" permit to put at your place if you leave your desk. Is there any truth behind this? I once went to the Hamilton library to study, and there were no desks without people's stuff on them, despite only ~30% of the places actually having people at them. It's very demoralising for an eager, hard working fellow like myself when the opportunity to study is suddenly reft from you.

    In theory, the system was that if you left your seat, you left a post-it saying what time you had left at, and if you had been gone for more than 15 minutes or if there is no post-it on the table, then it was fair game.

    Have never actually seen any post-its in practice though...


  • #133
    Kwekubo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Kwekubo


    ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote: »
    In theory, the system was that if you left your seat, you left a post-it saying what time you had left at, and if you had been gone for more than 15 minutes or if there is no post-it on the table, then it was fair game.

    Have never actually seen any post-its in practice though...

    That's exactly how it works, you can pick the yellow dockets up at Iveagh Hall or the Hamilton counter. In theory you are entitled under Library regulations to take any desk which has had no-one sitting at it for 15 minutes and which isn't otherwise reserved (ie postgraduate carrels, student shelvers). But I too have never seen anyone use the dockets.


  • #134
    Snake Logan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭Snake Logan


    PurpleFistMixer wrote: »
    Boston was banned and then unbanned.

    Someone explain this please.
    Randomness wrote: »
    I think Denerick feels he wants to keep the specific OCD related seat he got first thing in the morning

    Why has this user not been banned for blatantly insulting another user?


  • #135
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Maybe you should read the thread? The answers to both questions are posted several pages back.


  • #136
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Snake Logan wrote: »
    Why has this user not been banned for blatantly insulting another user?

    I don't see what's wrong with "I think Denerick feels he wants to keep the specific OCD related seat he got first thing in the morning". It's fact.


  • #137
    ApeXaviour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    Guys, back on topic or this thread is getting closed


  • #138
    Tricity Bendix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Tricity Bendix


    Just be glad ye're not in UCD, where I'm "working" tonight. I've given up trying to keep this place quiet as a lost cause.


  • #139
    gilroyb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭gilroyb


    Solving this problem is easy. Two choices:

    1) Get the yellow stickers from the main counter, when someone leaves their desk near you and is gone for a while, fill out a sticker and put it on their desk. That way they'll either come back to find someone in their seat or else not understand the sticker and feel embarrassed into leaving.

    2) Find a particularly embarrassing book (the more sexual the title or graphic the front cover the better) and place it on their desk as you pass by. If you can time it when the people around aren't at their desks or paying attention you can get brilliant responses from those around when the person finally returns. Sociology has some amazingly interesting titles if you happen to be looking.


  • #140
    Señor Juárez
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭Señor Juárez


    I must say I'd be more inclined to just move a person's stuff to one side, or onto the floor behind me, and sit in the seat. If they had the balls to challenge on it (unlikely), you could very reasonably tell them to get lost.


  • #141
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    The problem is that there aren't even any signs or anything about any kind of rules or guidelines for leaving stuff on desks. The only signs are "don't leave valuables unattended eg Wallets and phones". It's great and all having a 15 minute rule, but kind of useless if you don't tell anyone about it. I wouldn't have known about it except for boards.


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  • #142
    Epic Tissue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Epic Tissue


    And you have to be there 15 mins to know if they have been gone that long.. so unless you feel like standing around (assuming theres no other free seats or there wouldn't be a problem) for that long you're screwed


  • #143
    ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI
    Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The problem is that there aren't even any signs or anything about any kind of rules or guidelines for leaving stuff on desks. The only signs are "don't leave valuables unattended eg Wallets and phones". It's great and all having a 15 minute rule, but kind of useless if you don't tell anyone about it. I wouldn't have known about it except for boards.

    You're in CS right? I know about this because there are, or at least were signs (or A4 pieces of paper) up around the Hamilton library explaining the scheme, so it's not totally unadvertised, but I agree, they could be a little more vocal about it.
    Epic Tissue wrote: »
    And you have to be there 15 mins to know if they have been gone that long.. so unless you feel like standing around (assuming theres no other free seats or there wouldn't be a problem) for that long you're screwed

    Assuming you're talking about the post-it scheme, the idea is that they write the time they left their desk on the post it, so you can just check your watch to see if their 15 minutes has expired, no need to stand around and wait. Of course, people could post-date their post-its, but I assume if anyone noticed a post-it for 30 minutes in the future they'd just take the seat...


  • #144
    Mark200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    ZWEI_VIER_ZWEI wrote: »
    You're in CS right? I know about this because there are, or at least were signs (or A4 pieces of paper) up around the Hamilton library explaining the scheme, so it's not totally unadvertised, but I agree, they could be a little more vocal about it.

    Yep I am. Well I never saw any signs about it. Maybe I missed them.. which means they aren't exactly obvious, because I tend to look around a lot when I'm trying to study because I get distracted easily.

    They could just send an email around to everyone telling them what the story is with it.


  • #145
    PurpleFistMixer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    I've seen those signs (which is how I knew about it), and I'm not often in the library. I think they're mostly downstairs, afair...


  • #146
    gaybitch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭gaybitch


    This isn't exactly a complaint about people's behaviour in the library, but a general Q - what's the story if you order a book from stacks and you get an email saying it's "Not in place"? Does that mean I definitely can't get it, and it's lost or what? Thanks.

    Gaybitch fact-fans: I was ordering the fifth Preacher book.


  • #147
    shay_562
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭shay_562


    Quick random question - who's the person to report it to if you find a book with a chapter torn out of it? One of my delightful World Economy classmates has decided that they and only they deserve to read about the effects of emigration on real Irish wages in the 19th century, and while it's unlikely to be replaced before our exams, at least it'll be there for next year's class.


  • #148
    Unshelved
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Unshelved


    This isn't exactly a complaint about people's behaviour in the library, but a general Q - what's the story if you order a book from stacks and you get an email saying it's "Not in place"? Does that mean I definitely can't get it, and it's lost or what? Thanks.

    Fill out a Query Card at the Duty Librarian's desk - we'll do a search for it for you.
    Quick random question - who's the person to report it to if you find a book with a chapter torn out of it? One of my delightful World Economy classmates has decided that they and only they deserve to read about the effects of emigration on real Irish wages in the 19th century, and while it's unlikely to be replaced before our exams, at least it'll be there for next year's class.

    Again - leave it at the Duty Librarian's Desk. Unfortunately we can't do anything about the culprit - much as we'd like to - but we can get a replacement copy.


  • #149
    House of Wolves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭House of Wolves


    Several things really annoyed me about this thread. One of the main things is people giving out about people wandering in and staying for two or three hours. People like this are needed, as not every one can get a first class honours degree and if everyone came in at the same time and acted the exact same as you did, you would probably be screwed because then it would be a complete test on intelligence, and looking through the thread some of the remarks are pretty childish and outright ignorant and show a lack of maturity. (come on thinking you deserve an award for being in the library early, that is one of the sadness things I have ever heard as it means you dont really achieve at anything else)

    also to people saying certain courses are for wasters. Fair enough some might not have the same benefit to the economy after college, but there is only a certain number of places in "solid" courses or whatever they are going to be called so if everyone done theses courses, competition would be far greater and people would find it hard to get their place that they think they deserve so much. people choose courses that they think will benefit them the most and some people see making money as the most important and others see being cultured or having a better understanding of the society or whatever as being of equal importance to them. At the end of college you want to be happy and people have different utility levels for different things so dont act all high and mighty if you do medicine or history or engineering or business or whatever!


  • #150
    PurpleFistMixer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    House of Wolves wrote: »
    Several things really annoyed me about this thread. One of the main things is people giving out about people wandering in and staying for two or three hours.
    I think the issue was people coming in, taking desks, and then leaving for two or three hours. As in, not even using the library.


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  • #151
    Denerick
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Denerick


    House of Wolves wrote: »
    (come on thinking you deserve an award for being in the library early, that is one of the sadness things I have ever heard as it means you dont really achieve at anything else)

    When did we Irish lose the lost art of subtlety and tongue in cheek? Honestly, why don't we all just stamp 'Constantly literal, all the time' on our foreheads?


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