Irritating Matters in the Library

Marvinthefish · 02-05-2009 03:26PM

Re: ripping chapters out of books. I'm horrified people would do this. I'd like to think that if I ever saw someone do this I would speak up. Doesn't everyone read the library declaration that all readers are required to observe?

"Promitto etiam quod neque ipse librum aliquem asportabo, sponte corrumpam, interscribam, aut alio quovis modo abutar, nec ab aliis haec fieri (quantum in me est) permittam"

or

"I further promise that neither will I myself take away any book nor designedly damage or write in or badly treat in any way whatever any book, nor so far as in me lies will I suffer such things to be done by others."

Or think about the fines? "Mutilating a book, Library furniture or
equipment = Reinstatement cost plus administration fee of €50
plus fine up to €50" :eek:

Awayindahils · 02-05-2009 03:42PM

Marvinthefish wrote: »

Or think about the fines? "Mutilating a book, Library furniture or
equipment = Reinstatement cost plus administration fee of €50
plus fine up to €50" :eek:

Unfortunately the library has to prove who ripped out the chapter. often books that have chapters ripped out are books that cannot leave the library so there is no record of who last used it. And many of the books that are missing chapters have been missing them for years.

I've only come across it once in my time in college. One of the key books for an essay last year was missing a chapter.

Though I did find a book that my friend needed for their essay in the middle of periodical.

It seems to be worst in law.

Randomness · 02-05-2009 04:56PM

Some people are clueless that they are in an actual library... Half the time I think they just want somewhere to sit down they way they keep talking.

Have never experienced the pulling pages out phenomenom but those people should be ashamed of themselves, they are books, leave them alone! If I saw someone doing that I would report them but then again people who do that kinda of thing are like smart murderers who don't get caught or leave clues. Unfortunately this problem is very hard to police I would say.

I have no problem with people leaving their desk to go for an hour to lunch or out for a break etc because if you need a break because your library time isn't going to be effective otherwise then that is fair enough. I haven't really had a problem with seats only in the last week naturally. However I think there is somewhat of a correlation between talkers and desk hoggers so if the talkers we cracked down on then there would be more free desks (I'll get to them later). Although I have to agree with House of Wolves from earlier, if your in first thing and are going to spend the whole day in the library cept for lunch then you kinda want to keep the seat ya had.

Now the talkers...one question...where are the library staff?? I'd much rather a member of staff give out to someone for talking rather than texting. It's very hard to find a solution to this but seen as the library loves signs so much I think they should invest in a movable sign thing, it would get people's attention. I'm talking bout a 4-5ft high stand with a big sign on it saying, "this area has been reported as a noisy area, please refrain from talking in order to respect your fellow library users" or "talking is forbidden" or they should go down the cool/with the peeps route like the drink aware ads, something like "just because you had a great night last night doesn't mean the rest of us want to hear about it" or "are you getting evil stares from the person your sitting opposite??? maybe you should shut up". Then the library staff could move the sign around a few times during the day and people would notice it and maybe it would help. Also a good few people who talk also go off an leave their desks so if they were corrected for talking then maybe they would cop on and either a leave altogether or realise they should be quiet and get down to work.

Phones don't bother me as long as they are on silent and vibrate is off.

Mark200 · 03-05-2009 12:38AM

Did anyone here go to the Hamilton library some mornings... before this 'study period' we're in now? When you go up the stairs there'd always be a group of people there talking in the morning. I'm pretty sure they were student shelvers. They were so annoying. I only think they were student shelvers because one time the librarian came up and they started putting books on the shelf. Only time I saw them do anything besides sitting there in a circle talking....

Mark200 · 03-05-2009 12:41AM

Jonathan wrote: »

Why not study in LG6 or LG8?

Are they the rooms connected to LG12? Never thought of going in there actually. Wasn't sure if we were even 'allowed'... or who those rooms were even for.

Denerick · 03-05-2009 11:05AM

I'm a guilty offender when it comes to hogging a table. i come in the mornings, hog a table, go out for a wee walk and whatnot and appear back a couple of hours later. Don't see the problem to be honest. There are enough desks for everyone. I get up early in the morning to study and don't see why some waster who wanders in at 2 or 3 should have my desk, even if I amn't there.

Also, fully agree with the sentiments about talking the library. The other day I was sitting beside a gay fella who seemed to know every girl in the library, because every time one passed they would sit and have a full blown conversation for about 10 minutes. The third girl sat on the edge of the desk making mine wobble. I gave her the eyes of death, frustration and murderous intent. She apologised and moved on. We should bring back the death penalty for people like her.

Mark200 · 03-05-2009 01:08PM

Denerick wrote: »

I'm a guilty offender when it comes to hogging a table. i come in the mornings, hog a table, go out for a wee walk and whatnot and appear back a couple of hours later. Don't see the problem to be honest. There are enough desks for everyone. I get up early in the morning to study and don't see why some waster who wanders in at 2 or 3 should have my desk, even if I amn't there.

Well maybe they aren't wasters and just in fact actually went to lectures..?

M450 · 03-05-2009 01:51PM

Denerick wrote: »

I'm a guilty offender when it comes to hogging a table. i come in the mornings, hog a table, go out for a wee walk and whatnot and appear back a couple of hours later. Don't see the problem to be honest. There are enough desks for everyone. I get up early in the morning to study and don't see why some waster who wanders in at 2 or 3 should have my desk, even if I amn't there.

Haha, I'm one of them wasters who strolls into the library at 1 or 2. I hate it when there are rows and rows of tables with stuff left on them. Fair enough if you're popping out for an hour but when people leave for half the day and have the attitude that "I got up early this morning so I deserve to hog this table" and "You're a waster for not getting up early" its a bit ridiculous!!

You're the one coming in in the morning then going "out for a wee walk and whatnot" for a few hours, you waster! You're completely contradicting yourself with that attitude, what does it matter what part of the day is spent in the library? I like to take it easy in the morning and sleep on a bit then get a good breakfast, but I'm still expecting a first class honours degree! Maybe you need to wake up and realise that you're not better than everyone else just because you get up early!! Who knows, maybe you're a bit on the slow side and need the extra few hours to let it all sink in... but a degree is not achieved in the few weeks coming up to exams!

Denerick · 03-05-2009 02:58PM

So many fallacies there I don't know where to start! Good luck on your first class honours degree. Yes I get up early and study, but I tend to take a few hours break around half 11 or 12 o clock. Should I take all my stuff with me to allow some 2 O clock Jimmy to usurp my seat?? As far as I'm concerned I'm getting up earlier than others. Simple capitalism. I get there first so its my seat. Simple as that. If you don't like it then study at home!

M450 · 03-05-2009 03:02PM

Well next time I'll make sure to find where you're sitting then remove your "stuff" from the desk and take your seat... I did hear some rumour of a 15 minute rule

If you don't like it then study at home!

..we're probably not even in the same library!

Mark200 · 03-05-2009 03:03PM

Denerick wrote: »

So many fallacies there I don't know where to start! Good luck on your first class honours degree. Yes I get up early and study, but I tend to take a few hours break around half 11 or 12 o clock. Should I take all my stuff with me to allow some 2 O clock Jimmy to usurp my seat?? As far as I'm concerned I'm getting up earlier than others. Simple capitalism. I get there first so its my seat. Simple as that. If you don't like it then study at home!

well that's like saying if you don't like people talking in the library then study at home. Yet you complained about that

Boston · 03-05-2009 03:15PM

dan719 wrote: »

Problem: People are talking about the same thing a lot.
Solution: ?????

Profit

Or how about people use the search function for what it is designed for, and don't clog up the forum with extremely similar or even identical threads. :rolleyes:

Start an original thread or shut up, the choice is yours.

Denerick wrote: »

I'm a guilty offender when it comes to hogging a table. i come in the mornings, hog a table, go out for a wee walk and whatnot and appear back a couple of hours later. Don't see the problem to be honest. There are enough desks for everyone. I get up early in the morning to study and don't see why some waster who wanders in at 2 or 3 should have my desk, even if I amn't there.

Its not you desk, it never was your desk, it never will be your desk. You may think theres a "first come first reserved seating arrangement" but this idea only exists in your little mind, the library has no such rule and any other student has just as much right to the desk as you regardless of when they show up.

dan719 · 03-05-2009 03:29PM

Boston wrote: »

Start an original thread or shut up, the choice is yours.

.

What right have you to tell me to shut up? Talking about ideas that exist only in small minds, are you still convinced your a mod? Because despite your location status, you still seem to be missing an e-penis to compensate for your small real life one.

Awayindahils · 03-05-2009 03:33PM

Boston wrote: »

Start an original thread or shut up, the choice is yours.

Boston,

i get that you have been in college for a long time and as such have seen lots of the same threads. However it is university and the sphere of complaints is small, as are the general issues that affect students day to day, so similar threads will appear.

You don't have the right to tell anyone to shut up just because you don't like the thread.

I've been really nice all year.

See you in a week.

Awayindahils

Awayindahils · 03-05-2009 03:43PM

So this thread is 3 pages long and its now time to remind you all again that you can't be abusive to one another as its a breach of the charter.

As you were.

Awayindahils

M450 · 03-05-2009 03:57PM

Think you misinterpreted that one, dan719 was complaining about it being the same as old threads while Boston basically told him to start a new thread to complain about it or stop complaining.

Jonathan · 03-05-2009 04:05PM

M450 wrote: »

Think you misinterpreted that one, dan719 was complaining about it being the same as old threads while Boston basically told him to start a new thread to complain about it or stop complaining.

Aye. That's what I thought. But Boston gave out about the new mods a while ago, so she was prob just taking any petty reason to ban him..

Awayindahils · 03-05-2009 04:18PM

Jonathan wrote: »

Aye. That's what I thought. But Boston gave out about the new mods a while ago, so she was prob just taking any petty reason to ban him..

Or you know doing her dissertation, up to her eyes in work and trying to keep this from going to some of the highlights of the year that included the Druid nazi thread and the Coca Cola thread.

Going to fix it now.

The point remains that you can't tell each other to shut up. And that Boston is not a mod.

PurpleFistMixer · 03-05-2009 04:19PM

Isn't there some 15 minute rule on leaving your desk, anyway? The only issue I've had with the library so far is people letting their phone vibrate really loudly on the desk or somewhere. Just shows how much I'm in the library.

M450 · 03-05-2009 04:23PM

PurpleFistMixer wrote: »

Isn't there some 15 minute rule on leaving your desk, anyway? The only issue I've had with the library so far is people letting their phone vibrate really loudly on the desk or somewhere. Just shows how much I'm in the library.

Yeah, what's the point in putting it on silent if the noise from the vibration off the desk is just as loud and annoying... I leave my phone on vibrate but it's in my pocket and doesn't make a sound.

If you're leaving the phone on the desk surely you'll see the light flash when you get a txt, so no need for vibrate!!

Boston · 03-05-2009 04:32PM

Awayindahils wrote: »

And that Boston is not a mod.

shhh! No talking in the library thread!.

snappieT · 03-05-2009 05:08PM

Mark200 wrote: »

Are they the rooms connected to LG12? Never thought of going in there actually. Wasn't sure if we were even 'allowed'... or who those rooms were even for.

You are allowed, but I wouldn't recommend it. They're used by the fourth years (and a few third years) that actually want to get work done, and we can be vicious :P. Feel free to go on back, but keep it quiet.

Denerick wrote: »

i come in the mornings, hog a table [...] There are enough desks for everyone.

If there are enough desks why do you feel the need to hog?

Epic Tissue · 03-05-2009 05:13PM

Denerick wrote: »

So many fallacies there I don't know where to start! Good luck on your first class honours degree. Yes I get up early and study, but I tend to take a few hours break around half 11 or 12 o clock. Should I take all my stuff with me to allow some 2 O clock Jimmy to usurp my seat?? As far as I'm concerned I'm getting up earlier than others. Simple capitalism. I get there first so its my seat. Simple as that. If you don't like it then study at home!

If there are enough tables to go around then why can't you take your stuff and just sit down at a different table when you come back?

edit: someone just made this point directly above

Denerick · 03-05-2009 07:56PM

I am mildly OCD, not clinically of course but stuck to my ways. I have a very straightforward library routine, I always sit in the same general area in a quiet section of the library (Which I ain't telling anyone about because I want it to remain quiet

) Clearing my desk and going away for a couple of hours will ensure the desk - and my little happy space - will be taken away from me and I'd be forced to sit with plebs in one of the general seating areas. As wretched as this sounds, I'd most likely be inundated with a load of nonsense first years to my left and right who are only there because they find the whole 'library' experience some kind of liberating novelty. I wouldn't mind that if they took their innane conversations elsewhere. When I see someone I know in the library its an unwritten rule that there is a pleasant nod of the head, maybe a couple of words saying that I'll see them around later or that I may well be out during the week, if so, I'll see them there. Why do people insist on talking at length about all the shenanigans they are planning for the night? Have they no sense of civilisation? Its anti-social behaviour of the highest order.

So in short, thats why I hog a desk. Because I'd probably pull my hair out in frustration if I didn't keep to my perfectly well structured routine.

Why hasn't Boston been banned? Honest, that fella is such a div.

Mark200 · 03-05-2009 08:03PM

To be fair, OCD or not you're still hogging an empty desk for hours a day....

If it's such a big problem then maybe study at home...?

Denerick · 03-05-2009 09:30PM

Home is 2 hours away... I have the perfect desk/area, someone else who might take it simply won't appreciate it as much as I do. Thats how I will continue to justify this.

Agent Smith · 03-05-2009 09:52PM

people who talk in the library should hung, drawn and quartered.

Mark200 · 03-05-2009 09:56PM

Denerick wrote: »

Home is 2 hours away... I have the perfect desk/area, someone else who might take it simply won't appreciate it as much as I do. Thats how I will continue to justify this.

Well what about people whose home is also 2 hours away and need to study...? For example, people who may want to study during lunch between lectures?

Boston · 03-05-2009 10:04PM

Denerick wrote: »

I am mildly OCD,

Shocker... I bet you do CS.

I have a very straightforward library routine, I always sit in the same general area in a quiet section of the library (Which I ain't telling anyone about because I want it to remain quiet ) Clearing my desk and going away for a couple of hours will ensure the desk - and my little happy space - will be taken away from me and I'd be forced to sit with plebs in one of the general seating areas. As wretched as this sounds, I'd most likely be inundated with a load of nonsense first years to my left and right who are only there because they find the whole 'library' experience some kind of liberating novelty. I wouldn't mind that if they took their innane conversations elsewhere. When I see someone I know in the library its an unwritten rule that there is a pleasant nod of the head, maybe a couple of words saying that I'll see them around later or that I may well be out during the week, if so, I'll see them there. Why do people insist on talking at length about all the shenanigans they are planning for the night? Have they no sense of civilisation? Its anti-social behaviour of the highest order.

So in short, thats why I hog a desk. Because I'd probably pull my hair out in frustration if I didn't keep to my perfectly well structured routine.

Why hasn't Boston been banned? Honest, that fella is such a div.

So its ok for you to chat in the library but not others, simply because (in your mind) your conversations are short.

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Mark200 wrote: »

Well what about people whose home is also 2 hours away and need to study...? For example, people who may want to study during lunch between lectures?

Those people arn't important, the library is there solely to serve Denerick.

Jonathan · 03-05-2009 10:37PM

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Irritating Matters in the Library

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