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A question on rank

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  • 01-05-2009 3:07pm
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    helimachoptor
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    Just in another thread and from the Star Trek Legacy game, When Voyager gets back from the Delta Quadrant Janeway is promoted to Admiral which i'm sure she's chuffed about.

    Picard during TNG is offered a few promotions to admiral and turns them down, is there a limit to how many of these you can turn down, can they forcibly promote you to get you off a starship and into an admin job?


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    chamlis
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    Well there are 3 different levels of Admiral afaik.

    Isn't one of the perks of being an admiral that you get to pick which ship you bomb around in?


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    helimachoptor
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    chamlis wrote: »
    Well there are 3 different levels of Admiral afaik.

    Isn't one of the perks of being an admiral that you get to pick which ship you bomb around in?
    Yes I was thinking that, but then again would you want the flagship being used as a taxi, in the last episode of TNG Riker said he saved the Ent D from the scrap heap but which I assume was fine as it was an old old ship at that stage.

    But what about all those admirals who sit in San Fran at HQ


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    norrie rugger
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    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Yes I was thinking that, but then again would you want the flagship being used as a taxi, in the last episode of TNG Riker said he saved the Ent D from the scrap heap but which I assume was fine as it was an old old ship at that stage.

    But what about all those admirals who sit in San Fran at HQ

    Yeah, picard was offered an academy role
    not a fleet admiral


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    helimachoptor
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    norrie rugger wrote: »
    Yeah, picard was offered an academy role
    not a fleet admiral
    Thanks that's the phrase I was looking for, I presume in Nemesis then Janeway was a fleet admiral and not a "staff" admiral


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    Slice
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    So did she just skip the position of vice-admiral altogether?


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    Irishtrekkie
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    http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/errors/errors.htm

    great page with lots of uniform errors

    but the jane way one is the best

    ''.Kathryn Janeway's uniform in Star Trek: Nemesis?
    It was barely visible, but Janeway wore the rank insignia of a Vice Admiral. Since U.S.S. Voyager returned at the end of the year 2377, and Star Trek: Nemesis was set in the second half of 2379, Janeway would have been promoted three times within 22 months, which is just ridiculous.''

    Agreed right she got the crew home , she had a buck load of data about the delta quad, furture technology, borg tech , and kicked the borgs ass . so yea making her admiral if she wanted it was cool , but Vice Admiral ? bit of a joke


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    nyarlothothep
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    should have been demoted to ensign


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    Irishtrekkie
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    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    should have been demoted to ensign

    I think they just wanted her out of the way , they would be happy for all the data and technology , but when they learn how she dick everything up in the delta quad and pissed off every 2nd race i am sure they where like right your useless. :D


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    MetalDawg
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    Slice wrote: »
    So did she just skip the position of vice-admiral altogether?

    She could have skipped it. Happens in real world militaries from time to time, going to an acting higher rank.


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    MetalDawg
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    Slice wrote: »
    So did she just skip the position of vice-admiral altogether?

    She could have skipped it. Happens in real world militaries from time to time, going up to an acting higher rank.


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    nyarlothothep
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    Irishtrekkie wrote: »
    I think they just wanted her out of the way , they would be happy for all the data and technology , but when they learn how she dick everything up in the delta quad and pissed off every 2nd race i am sure they where like right your useless. :D

    Lol, I agree, it also reflects real life more closely, rewarding the incompetent because they fit a certain mold! Janeway fit the admiral personality type perfectly in Star Trek, well it seems like she displayed the same attitudes Picard had to deal with in TNG. Its difficult to reconcile her scientific training with such lines as "sometimes we just have to punch our way through."


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    Penrose
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    MetalDawg wrote: »
    She could have skipped it. Happens in real world militaries from time to time, going up to an acting higher rank.

    Its because she sleeps her way to the top, you dont think Picard could do the same thing.


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    Johnny Storm
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    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    should have been demoted to ensign

    Should have been court martialed and slapped permanently in the brig for extreme incompetence, dereliction of duty and having a really annoying voice.


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    KonFusion
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    Penrose wrote: »
    Its because she sleeps her way to the top, you dont think Picard could do the same thing.


    Not with Riker stuck to his ass 23 hours a day


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    chamlis
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    Janeway was probably promoted the feck out of causing any more harm tbh.


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