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Sad Irish losers supporting foreign teams

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  • #92
    Podge2k7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    conorlechance wrote: »
    so if liverpool turned crap you would change to supporting barcelona or chelsea?
    Did i say that?I support Liverpool because I chose to support them.And tbh i would rather watch Championship and League 1 football than watch LOI because I dont like LOI.Its not my fault that the OP has some issues with team like Man utd and Liverpool and just because he doesnt support them,that doesnt mean no one else can.


  • #93
    CiaranC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Helix wrote: »
    ive always supported the domestic game, but youll find that there are disturbing amount of people just like him and conorlechance. youve only to look at the tag line for the league to see how pathetic it can all get
    Id say the majority of football fans, here and in England, who look at Irish plastic bandwagon fans think they are gob****es.

    OP, you are wasting your time discussing this here, its discussed ad nauseum in the soccer forum. Sport is viewed as an entertainment product to be consumed here, its not like it is elsewhere.


  • #94
    conorlechance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭conorlechance


    Podge2k7 wrote: »
    Did i say that?I support Liverpool because I chose to support them.And tbh i would rather watch Championship and League 1 football than watch LOI because I dont like LOI.Its not my fault that the OP has some issues with team like Man utd and Liverpool and just because he doesnt support them,that doesnt mean no one else can.

    you my friend are an idiot. i wonder why you don't like the LOI, probably because sky sports doesn't show it and it might involve getting up off your fatboy. a mindless sheep.


  • #95
    stainluss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭stainluss


    I think its fair enough for Irish people to support English teams.. except those anti-british/'ira' fools.
    It makes me sick to hear some people go off on the anti english thing, then wear a Liverpool jersey down to the pub that night and jump for joy when they win the champions league.. feckin eejits:p
    Some say certain teams in the UK have strong Irish histories, lets be honest, you know what teams have even stronger Irish histories? Irish teams!Don't go supporting teams from a country you supposedly hate just because the ones in the Eircom league aren't up to scratch!


  • #96
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    CiaranC wrote: »
    Id say the majority of football fans, here and in England, who look at Irish plastic bandwagon fans think they are gob****es.

    and some of them are worthy of that title, namely the ones whove never been to a football match in their lives (and id wager there are a phenomenal amount of them), but the fact remains that the loi will struggle to attract fans while it has people so readily willing to take pot shots at people they know nothing about simply because they follow an english team


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  • #97
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    conorlechance wrote: »
    i wonder why you don't like the LOI

    maybe its because of people like you?

    maybe theres no team anywhere near him?


  • #98
    conorlechance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭conorlechance


    people like me, what about the local fans of english clubs that deride them. surely this would put them off, no?


  • #99
    AIR-AUSSIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭AIR-AUSSIE


    conorlechance wrote: »
    you my friend are an idiot. i wonder why you don't like the LOI, probably because sky sports doesn't show it and it might involve getting up off your fatboy. a mindless sheep.

    Yes he's shepherded by the mighty sky sports overlords into worshiping nothing but the devil's foreign football team....


  • #100
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    As a kid and teen I use to frequent dalymount park to support Bohemians and also went along to see the national team play there many times .One abiding memory as a 9 year old , was going along to see Shamrock rovers play Everton , who had Joe Royle and Alan Ball + other big names in the team .Rovers had Mick leech and a few others who were household names then in Ireland .There must have being 40,000 at dalymount that night and Rovers were leading 2-0 at half time but the match ended in a 2-2 draw . The atmosphere was terrific .They were the heydays of irish football for me .


  • #101
    MoodyMedic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭MoodyMedic


    stainluss wrote: »
    I think its fair enough for Irish people to support English teams.. except those anti-british/'ira' fools.
    It makes me sick to hear some people go off on the anti english thing, then wear a Liverpool jersey down to the pub that night and jump for joy when they win the champions league.. feckin eejits:p
    Some say certain teams in the UK have strong Irish histories, lets be honest, you know what teams have even stronger Irish histories? Irish teams!Don't go supporting teams from a country you supposedly hate just because the ones in the Eircom league aren't up to scratch!

    I agree with nearly all you say Stainluss (just that first line - we'll agree to disagree!) - just go to the Submarine bar in Dublin.


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  • #102
    MoodyMedic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭MoodyMedic


    Latchy wrote: »
    As a kid and teen I use to frequent dalymount park to support Bohemians and also went along to see the national team play there many times .One abiding memory as a 9 year old , was going along to see Shamrock rovers play Everton , who had Joe Royle and Alan Ball + other big names in the team .Rovers had Mick leech and a few others who were household names then in Ireland .There must have being 40,000 at dalymount that night and Rovers were leading 2-0 at half time but the match ended in a 2-2 draw . The atmosphere was terrific .They were the heydays of irish football for me .

    Thats the spirit we need in our country - let's bring it back again


  • #103
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    conorlechance wrote: »
    people like me, what about the local fans of english clubs that deride them. surely this would put them off, no?

    no, people like you have a more negative affect on the league of ireland than people who get a bit of guff from their non loi supporting mates

    believe it or not, the attitude of militant loi fans who seem intent on keeping the game a closed shop when it comes to new fans are probably going to cause a lot more damage in the coming years

    if you support english football, youre not a real football fan

    if you support english football but try to get into loi, youll be lambasted for giving your money to english teams

    christ its almost enough to put me off and ive been going to loi games for 20 years


  • #104
    CiaranC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Helix wrote: »
    and some of them are worthy of that title, namely the ones whove never been to a football match in their lives (and id wager there are a phenomenal amount of them), but the fact remains that the loi will struggle to attract fans while it has people so readily willing to take pot shots at people they know nothing about simply because they follow an english team
    Nonsense, "sports-mad" Irish people dont give a toss what some bitter football fans say about them on websites, they are too busy being "die-hard" Liverpool/Man U/Munster fans or whatever it is this week.

    Anyway Ive a headache from watching a dismal performance by my actual real football team in the freezin cold tonight, propelling us to another season of mid-table mediocrity (you know, the actual experience of most football fans outside the barstoolers top four English clubs), so Ill bow out of this one.


  • #105
    Gavin "shels"
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,988 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Go into town tomorrow and ask any Liverpool/Celtic/Man U/ etc... mong why they support a British team, the majority will say they've a better standard of football, going on that trend gents why not support the Brazilian/Spainish/English nationa team?


  • #106
    pipeliner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭pipeliner


    MoodyMedic wrote: »
    How am I foolish? I bring that into it to display the nations laziness and lack of discipline/pride for something that is unique and priceless to a nation, the lack of pride/discipline that results in supporting these teams that they have absolutely no link to.

    You won't find Israelis calling their Hewbew language useless like the Britannia soccer worshiper here.


    So why didn't you write your rant as gaeilge. It would make as much sense if you did:confused:


  • #107
    conorlechance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭conorlechance


    wtf, i follow another team on top of finn harps. at the bohs game tonight(living in dublin with my parents atm) there were ac milan, inter, arsenal, barca jerseys and other merchandise being worn on top of bohs stuff. was anything said? lol of course not


    We WANT more fans, why the hell would i want to put them off?


  • #108
    andyman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,641 ✭✭✭andyman


    What makes me sick is all of these "proper" fan's thinking that they have a right to take a moral high ground because they support their local side and not a successful side.

    Before you start on me OP, I live in Kilkenny, who am I supposed to support? I can't stand Waterford as a county (generalisation ftw), so that rules Waterford United and some of their poxy fans out. A mate of mine plays for Wexford Youths so I'll keep an eye out for their results as well as going to an odd game here or there. But I'm not from Wexford, so looks like I don't fit into your category of what a "real" supporter is.

    Also, I'm a West Bromwich Albion fan. Yes you read, West Bromwich Albion. So tell me, do I follow a side that's winning all the time? No, I follow a side that's about to be relegated to the second tier of English Football. All your posts seem to be aimed at the "glory-hunting" fans of Man United, Liverpool and Celtic more than followers of English teams in general.
    You have NO right to support these teams. Get a life - your own life.

    You have NO right to say anything of the sort.

    Why does it bother you that people support a team in a different country? It has absolutely nothing to do with you. So do us all a favour, pack it in, leave and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.


  • #109
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    conorlechance wrote: »
    We WANT more fans, why the hell would i want to put them off?

    because you want to feel superior to them by supporting "real" football

    every post youve made in this thread so far absolutely stinks of it, whether you know it or not, and although youre still in a minority its a growing one


  • #110
    MoodyMedic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭MoodyMedic


    pipeliner wrote: »
    So why didn't you write your rant as gaeilge. It would make as much sense if you did:confused:

    Good question.
    1) Because unfortunately my written Irish is not fluent enough (I'm working on it),
    2) most people would not understand the thread title and ignore it,
    3) it would be not understood by any international visitors eg. Air-Aussie (the internet is mostly english)


  • #111
    mayordenis
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    Gavin shels wrote: »
    Go into town tomorrow and ask any Liverpool/Celtic/Man U/ etc... mong why they support a British team, the majority will say they've a better standard of football, going on that trend gents why not support the Brazilian/Spainish/English nationa team?

    But like I have a team in every country (within reason) that I support

    Waterford United, Liverpool, Valencia, Paris St Germaine, Dortmund, Ajax, Fiorentina, etc. etc.

    Liverpool are without a shadow of a doubt the one I would say I love.

    But you keeping whinging about how you have to keep repeating yourself OP but yet you still haven't explained why you say people have "no right" to support such clubs.
    It's like you thing it's written in the Zapp Branigans Big Book of Human Rights or something, it's not support is a choice, You're beer anology is stupid btw.
    Drink some real beers or stfu.


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  • #112
    postalservice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭postalservice


    MoodyMedic wrote: »
    I'm Irish, and I think soccer is a great game. What makes me sick is my country men have no culture or pride of their own and declare loyality to foreign winning teams. It is absolutely pathetic.

    All I hear is Finn Harps, Shamrock Rovers, etc - "they're sh1te, etc"
    It does not matter that they are not very successful - they need local support. You can admire and commend great skill in other players, teams, and countries, but you only have the right to support your local/national team.

    These weak loyalist supporters are usually low/middle social class Irish who support these winning teams, mostly in English and Scottish premier league (also other sports such as Ferrari in F1). It seems to me they do this to enjoy the success of winning a game, likely to compensate for failures in their own lives.

    Grown men in British football jersies who spend 3-4 hours a day watching and reading about completely irrelevant actitivies. (I'm not anti-British BTW.)

    Celtic, Man Utd, etc. Pathetic.

    Are you from these cities? - No.
    Do you know any of the players personally? - No.
    Can you speak your own native language - No.

    These fools are sedated by 900 channels of Sky TV, Coronation Street, the "Oirish" Sun and Carlsberg (coz Jack tells them to drink it).

    People would, and do kill for what you have - a country and culture of your own. I don't mean you have to be playing the oileann pipes with your irish wolf hound while drinking Guiness (an English product) Create your own culture. Educate yourself, be independent.

    You have NO right to support these teams. Get a life - your own life.

    I just feel if this energy was put into our own country instead of abroad, it would be great.

    These British teams must be laughing at the Irish - pouring 100s millions of Euros into their clubs - embarressing.

    Are we only allowed watch Seoige and Aifric aswell so????????

    If so.....:(
    Even though....Aifric has its moments...............:o


  • #113
    Podge2k7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    MoodyMedic wrote: »
    Good question.
    1) Because unfortunately my written Irish is not fluent enough (I'm working on it),
    2) most people would not understand the thread title and ignore it,
    3) it would be not understood by any international visitors eg. Air-Aussie (the internet is mostly english)
    4)Im too embarrassed to admit that i dont speak Irish and i would look like a fool if i admitted it after making this thread.
    Added one in for ya.


  • #114
    CiaranC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Helix wrote: »
    although youre still in a minority its a growing one
    Hah thats great news. Football fans are militant and passionate about their support. The more the better.


  • #115
    AIR-AUSSIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭AIR-AUSSIE


    MoodyMedic wrote: »
    Good question.
    1) Because unfortunately my written Irish is not fluent enough (I'm working on it),

    Think that sumed up your argument there quite nicely. How about you practice what you preach?

    I would bet my Irish is better then yours. I can start replying to you in irish if you like. Continue the argument as you would like... you know use our irish a bit. It would make us both feel proud and I'd feel all disciplined and not a lazy bastard watching sky. Might solve the recession too you know...


  • #116
    MoodyMedic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭MoodyMedic


    andyman wrote: »
    What makes me sick is all of these "proper" fan's thinking that they have a right to take a moral high ground because they support their local side and not a successful side.

    Before you start on me OP, I live in Kilkenny, who am I supposed to support? I can't stand Waterford as a county (generalisation ftw), so that rules Waterford United and some of their poxy fans out. A mate of mine plays for Wexford Youths so I'll keep an eye out for their results as well as going to an odd game here or there. But I'm not from Wexford, so looks like I don't fit into your category of what a "real" supporter is.

    Also, I'm a West Bromwich Albion fan. Yes you read, West Bromwich Albion. So tell me, do I follow a side that's winning all the time? No, I follow a side that's about to be relegated to the second tier of English Football. All your posts seem to be aimed at the "glory-hunting" fans of Man United, Liverpool and Celtic more than followers of English teams in general.



    You have NO right to say anything of the sort.

    Why does it bother you that people support a team in a different country? It has absolutely nothing to do with you. So do us all a favour, pack it in, leave and don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

    I have as much right as you to air my opinion, and won't be leaving, or "letting the door hit my arse on the way out"

    Here's a suggestion - No team?
    Soccer teams are not like oxygen - you don't need to support one.
    Even better, if you love soccer then start one in your community. That may take you away from Sky Sports and Eastenders though.

    I don't understand why you are a fan of West Bromwich Albion, but appreciate your unwaivering support for a team in trouble - these teams need support.

    Most people that I am talking about have an original team, eg Everton, that are now not doing so well, and a current team, eg Man Utd that they are supporting. Respect - Zero.


  • #117
    conorlechance
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭conorlechance


    Helix wrote: »
    because you want to feel superior to them by supporting "real" football

    every post youve made in this thread so far absolutely stinks of it, whether you know it or not, and although youre still in a minority its a growing one

    well tbh I do feel like i'm a better fan than some clown that sits at home watching the scroller on sky sports news and sitting in a pub drinking pint after pint cheering at a tv screen.


  • #118
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    CiaranC wrote: »
    Hah thats great news. Football fans are militant and passionate about their support. The more the better.

    no, its not great news

    itll lead to a stagnation of support because therell be no new followers. the loi needs supporters, not arrogant pricks belittling people

    theres plenty of scope for people to keep supporting their english team but also support a domestic one

    they do it all over the world. you ask any scandanavians who they support and theyll tell you their domestic team and their english premiership team


  • #119
    AIR-AUSSIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭AIR-AUSSIE


    CiaranC wrote: »
    Hah thats great news. Football fans are militant and passionate about their support. The more the better.

    Militant?


  • #120
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    MoodyMedic wrote: »
    Most people that I am talking about have an original team, eg Everton, that are now not doing so well, and a current team, eg Man Utd that they are supporting. Respect - Zero.

    i dont know a single person who has switched support of their football team (women aside), where do you know all these people from? where are they hiding?


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  • #121
    Paul Tergat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    I'v deliberated whether or not I should post here but **** it.

    Im an English lad who supports man utd. Ive lived in Dublin the last few years and go to see some Irish league football.

    From an outsider looking in I have to say the attitude of many (not all) LOI fans is pretty pathetic and completely the wrong way of going about trying to gain popularity to the LOI. Threads like this sum it up imo.


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