E voting Good idea or just a waste of time and money? (Read thread before voting)

AckwelFoley · 23-04-2009 07:19PM #1

Today it has been finally announced that they are to offload the e voting machines in Ireland by a yet undetermined method.

What id like to establish among members here is to wheather you feel that the concept of e voting is a good or bad idea in general, regardless of the mistakes that were made with them in Ireland. Its obvious that there is a lack of transparency and that they are not suitable for use here, but that perhaps is alot to do with the particular machine or system that was purchased for use.

Im adding a poll.

The purpose of the poll is to determine if you agree with the concept of e voting, you may not approve of the debacle of the e voting machines and the maagment of their implemintation that has being well documented now here in Ireland, but if you think that if it were properly managed and designed to suit or constitution and have relivent transparency would you like to see them used?

Mods: Ive posted this here rather than the political forum to get the opinions of people that would be of a more broad representation of the population rather than people with a particular interest in politics

Personally, im undecided. I can see both positives and negatives in them.

galwayrush · 23-04-2009 07:25PM

Unsure here, seems too easy to manipulate the results

RATM · 23-04-2009 07:26PM

So you want us to evote so we can disagree with evoting. Oh, the ironing :pac:

AckwelFoley · 23-04-2009 07:27PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Unsure here, seems too easy to manipulate the results

Yes, but thats based on the current system and machines used.

galwayrush · 23-04-2009 07:30PM

snyper wrote: »

Yes, but thats based on the current system and machines used.

Fair Point, but how will they convince us future machines would be perfectly above board?

dr.bollocko · 23-04-2009 07:35PM

Ian Paisley. Never! Never! Never! No to E Voting!

Why can't I just email my vote in?
Strikes me that the most dedicated spammer should decide the fate of the nation.

My name is URL · 23-04-2009 07:38PM

Im really unsure?

It's an unnecessary upgrade imo

The likes of which have us in this dire situation now

AckwelFoley · 23-04-2009 07:42PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Fair Point, but how will they convince us future machines would be perfectly above board?

get mary harey to preform a striptease if we dont?

Naikon · 23-04-2009 07:43PM

Im really unsure?

E-voting my bollocks.

netwhizkid · 23-04-2009 07:49PM

Im really unsure?

I loved the news piece with the condescending pr*ck Bertie Ahern saying how we needed to throw away the pencil an paper, when in Reality the system was about as safe as sending your Credit Card details to Mr. Obongo from Lagos.

It was a cleverly designed stunt by the government to decive the Irish taxpayer and the nice cottage industry of storing the machine in the premises of Fianna Fail party hacks with 20 year contracts drawn up, I imagine these will now sue for breach of contract? If these machines had been used fully FF could manipulate the Vote to keep themselves in power, still it was nice the way Mary "worked like blacks" O'Rourke got dumped in the 2002 General Election partly thanks to the Eircom biddies and CWU who brought her down for throwing the company to the vultures and ensuing mess that haunts us to this day.

AckwelFoley · 23-04-2009 08:36PM

netwhizkid wrote: »

It was a cleverly designed stunt by the government to decive the Irish taxpayer and the nice cottage industry of storing the machine in the premises of Fianna Fail party hacks with 20 year contracts drawn up, I imagine these will now sue for breach of contract? If these machines had been used fully FF could manipulate the Vote to keep themselves in power, still it was nice the way Mary "worked like blacks" O'Rourke got dumped in the 2002 General Election partly thanks to the Eircom biddies and CWU who brought her down for throwing the company to the vultures and ensuing mess that haunts us to this day.

Eh.. bollocks

dfx- · 23-04-2009 08:40PM

Ian Paisley. Never! Never! Never! No to E Voting!

snyper wrote: »

Today it has been finally announced that they are to offload the e voting machines in Ireland by a yet undetermined method.

Give them free to a country without such paranoia and who can run them properly? Surely we're not the only country to have thought of e-voting, perhaps the only one not to have successfully implemented it..

In other words, yes.

thelordofcheese · 23-04-2009 08:52PM

Ian Paisley. Never! Never! Never! No to E Voting!

netwhizkid wrote: »

I loved the news piece with the condescending pr*ck Bertie Ahern saying how we needed to throw away the pencil an paper, when in Reality the system was about as safe as sending your Credit Card details to Mr. Obongo from Lagos.

It was a cleverly designed stunt by the government to decive the Irish taxpayer and the nice cottage industry of storing the machine in the premises of Fianna Fail party hacks with 20 year contracts drawn up, I imagine these will now sue for breach of contract? If these machines had been used fully FF could manipulate the Vote to keep themselves in power, still it was nice the way Mary "worked like blacks" O'Rourke got dumped in the 2002 General Election partly thanks to the Eircom biddies and CWU who brought her down for throwing the company to the vultures and ensuing mess that haunts us to this day.

I also hear 9/11 was an inside job.

To be serious for a second, e-voting would be as, if not more, secure as regular voting, if implemented correctly.
And not having to print stupid amounts of paper as well as far quicker and accurate counts of votes would be well worth the switch.

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