Ferguson vs Benitez thread

Highsider wrote: »

Yeah because all liverpool fans want the carling cup instead of being in with a genuine shot of the title :rolleyes:

so another season without a trophy

is that success ?

Liam O wrote: »

well considering it was a clear goalscoring opportunity and he was taken down...

I don't think it was a penalty, although I did at the time.

And it doesn't matter.

Nobody is allowed to signal for a card to the referee.
It's a yellow card offense.

No manager wether his name is Alex, Arsene, Gus, David, or Rafa is allowed to signal to the referee for a card to be given.

Karmafaerie wrote: »

No it's about Rafa and Fergie.

I don't think it's ever been about that. Just another thread designed for both sides to bait each other.

I love all the UTD supporters who think this thread is childish, but had no such problems with the "Rafa Rant", "Rafa to be fired", "Zonal marking", etc threads.

Or the ones who think Fergie is being insulted, but had no problem with the pictures of Rafa in a straight jacket, or the t-shirts, or the banners.

The simple fact of the matter is, both managers have acted wrongly in the media.

While the concensus seems to be it's okay for Fergie to be doing it, cause he's Fergie, he's been doing it for years.
But it's wrong for Rafa to try.

This is a concensus held by UTD fans, and Fergies managerial bussom buddies.
It was held by most media pundits untill Alex put both his and Big Sam's feet in his mouth at the same time this week!

Jesus, Allardyce even said as much in the national media!

On Benitez's feud with Sir Alex Ferguson, a modest Allardyce had this to say: "You'd be foolish taking on Sir Alex because he knows every trick in the book.

When Rafa made his speech, to an undesired effect, UTD fans pounced and still sing chants about it.

There was the Rafa's cracked t-shirts, signs, banners, gifs, videos, pictures, chants.
I even know a UTD fan who had the chant as his ringtone!:rolleyes:

All this is perfetly acceptable for UTD fans as it's what ye've grown to expect.

As soon as it's the other way around, UTD fans think it's childish, and disgusting.

Now to the core of the matter.
Some people think that it's so touchy a subject now, simply because for the first time it's Liverpool.
While I believe that this is part of the problem, I think it's not the real reason.
The simple fact is that this is the first time it's been returned at UTD fans so vociferously.

There aren't as large a number of Arsenal or Chelsea fans as there are Liverpool fans.
Especially not in Ireland.

Before whenever Alex made a mistake, it was a few dissenting voices shoving it in the UTD fans faces, and that's easy to ignore or drown out.

This time however, it's Liverpool.

Every UTD fan has a friend (or five) who supports Liverpool.
For every UTD fan here, there's more Liverpool fans.

For the first time since all this mind games crap started, UTD fans are getting hit as hard as they hit.

And quiet frankly, I don't think they know how to take it.

When Fergie was one-upped by Mourinho or Wenger, it was easy to avoid.
With Liverpool it's impossible.

As most fans of other teams will advise, we (UTD and Liverpool) tend to take over football discussions.

When Wenger had his invincibles, UTD could ignore the half dozen Arsenal fans.
When Mourinho won two in a row, there were only a handfull of Chelsea fans.

Now if something doesn't go your way, suddenly there's half of this site, half your friends, half your work colleagues, half the people you play 5 a side with, half the people down the pub, half the bloody strangers in the street even, shoving it in your faces.

Well....so what.

We've had to put up with it for years.

The fans of the less supported clubs have to accept it even when they're winning for christ sake!

Just enjoy it for what it is.
What makes sport great.
Getting one over your rivals, and if you loose, thinking of how much better it'll make you feel next time if you win.

I for one wouldn't swap our title challenge being against UTD for any other team.
Because if we loose, it'll hurt like a son'f a bit€h.

But if we win...........

Well, 'nuff said.

One things for sure if rafa had of played a weakened team similar to what fergie did yesterday he would be hounded and ridiculed by newspapers and pundits everywhere

Mr. Frost wrote: »

What's pathetic is it took Ferguson to say something for you start this thread. Why didn't you start it any other time over the last few months since Benitez hasn't stopped talking about Utd?

He was even talking about Utd at the press conference before the Chelsea CL game. That's pathetic.

Im sure there was a thread started in Jan when Rafa had his say. Rafa rotates and they lose the talk of rotation goes bananas, Rafa says something and all of a sudden he's goin crazy! Now Fergie comes out with the most ridiculous statment of the season and follows it up by showing contempt to Everton & the FA Cup (not the first time for that) by fielding youngsters in a Cup semi-final

Long live this thread I say

Headshot wrote: »

lolz u werent around after the fa cup match with everton

Ok, out of the super-threads then