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Piratebay owners get a year.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Wossack wrote: »
    There'll be plenty after their pirate booty where they're going :o

    Seamen?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    The guilty verdict in all honesty is not going to make a blind bit of difference.
    Not one bit.
    The companies can cry all they want. They are only fooling themselves with their own camera publicity spin.
    The verdict will make schite all difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    S.I.R wrote: »
    great how they made up a new charge for people who made codes and a site which re-directs you to p2p transfer, which isnt their fault.... if its illigal, its your fault, not theirs...
    Thats how the legal system functions though. How else would we have new laws? What would we do if someone found a loophole to kill someone scott free, just leave it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    Instead of going after these guys they should be hailed as entrepreneurs.
    In this time of recession - they have a business model that is sustainable and growing.

    Lets face it - for a reasonable nominal fee would not everyone choose to download the media they are looking for.
    The companies in question here are plainly driven by both greed and old business models.

    The world has moved on, we have new technologies and methods of distributing data - so take advantage of it.

    Ridiculous that this has gone as far as it has, wonder if they had shown the courts some respect though would we be reading this result now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Taltos wrote: »
    Ridiculous that this has gone as far as it has, wonder if they had shown the courts some respect though would we be reading this result now?

    I think if they had called themselves "Metavillage" or something as equally retarded, and didn't say anything to do with piracy or taunt the RIAA/MPAA, they would not have gone to prison.

    So the problem isn't their technology or what they do, it's how they marketed themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭Dartz


    3DataModem wrote: »
    Are you insane? :p

    CD's can be lost, damaged, wear out.

    >MP3's can be lost only.

    A CD player can only play one at a time.

    >You can cue up a LOT of music on an MP3 player.

    You cannot easily duplicate a CD across different media playing devices.

    >You can put MP3's online, on a phone, on a keyring, on an ipod, on a CD, on a DVD, on a hard disk, etc.

    CD's take up space, have weight, etc. Want to bring a CD on hols? That's 70 mins of music per coaster.

    > Want to bring your entire MP3 collection on hols? Bring a USB key with 1000's of songs. Or upload them to a website and just access them when you get there. Or put a few dozen LP's on your phone.

    The days of physical media as a commercial vehicle for the average consumer are numbered. "Things" need to be made, shipped, labelled, carried.

    I was refferring to digital rights management and file-format issues. A CD will play in any CD player from the last 30 years. MP3's tend to be a bit more finnicky.

    I've also found that, scratches aside, CD's are a lot more permanent than files on a harddisk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    Tbh I can't see them going to jail, unless they get an equally crazy judge for the appeal. I think they fines will stick, but they are going to have no problem paying them, with donations etc[Although I highly doubt they will pay them].
    The whole thing is amusing. It just gives the pirate bay more publicity, which is what they were after all along.


    The 4 of them may be arrogent pricks, but at least they are funny arrogent pricks :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭magick


    i hope more pirate bays open after this , or at least /b/ does something about it, technically they did nothing wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Don't Google own youtube? Can't wait for that court case.

    Never happen.

    I have to say i really dont understand this whole case with the pirate bay.

    Yes google own youtube - how many times have you seen "this video has been removed due to copy right infringement" ? Every single time fox or who ever the **** report a illigal video to youtube it DOES get taken down - every time.

    Its just that they are uploaded so quickly and so many of the same vid by so many different users is a logistical nightmare to pay a group of people to watch every single new vid every single day of the year.

    If piratebay or other torrent sites just adopted that tatic problem solved - ye i know its annoying you get home and that lovley episode of whatever uplloaded by your fav group with 10k seeders might not be there but its just a matter of uploading the file again to another tracker.

    torrent sites that just search all other torrent sites would be the perfect "launch platform" for tatics like that as they can search all trackers.

    That way no site gets in trouble as they remove every torrent when requested.

    How many people would need to be employed to sit on every single torrent site in the world - reporting ALL illigal torrents uploaded every hour - im sure a few of you know how many that is (roughly)

    And even if a bunch of corperations got together to fund something like that do you think pirate bay or ANY torrent site out there would have enough staff to even keep up with the amount of reports?

    You cant be sued or taken to court over not having enough staff. Any court case comes along the torrent sites can just show proof that they do remove all illigal torrents when they get requests from the licence holders.

    Agree/Disagree? I dont see why that cant work legally speaking. Morally speaking is a different story as i like TV shows and movies.

    Years ago there was such a small minority downloading (i remember the first thing i downloaded - it was on a 33k - yes a 33k modem i think i was 8 or 9 at the time)

    The internet was "uncool" many many years ago - with increases in internet speeds and so many people now using it the numbers downloading have increased a hell of allot.

    Without enough funding the quality of shows sfx budgets will go down - i have to say i dont care about the acotrs wages going down because i think they are too high (and im not an actor)

    Still the industry is going to be majorly changed in the comming years and if you want to keep enjoying you will have to join a legal pay to download service - When they get the ****ing pricing right and allow everyone in the world to download the the same time.

    Main reason i download is because i dont want to wait.

    If there was 1 single FREE torrent site only 1 torrent site in all the world it would probally get a min of 1/2 a billion hits a day? i mean i check my online sites 4 or 5 times a day and if im still up around 1.30am-4am i could cheque it 30 times.

    Im sure there are others who check it more - A single site with that many "hits" a day could support itself and pay the studio's with revenue generated from hits on the adds on the site

    opinions - am i crazy good or crazy bad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    Pissing against the wind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    *pours gasoline over his computer*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    magick wrote: »
    i hope more pirate bays open after this

    It never closed. The 4 of them can't shut it down even if they want to; after the 06 police raids, they repositioned the servers all around the world, and claim to have no idea where they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It never closed. The 4 of them can't shut it down even if they want to; after the 06 police raids, they repositioned the servers all around the world, and claim to have no idea where they are.
    So its like Skynet now. Awesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Dartz wrote: »
    I was refferring to digital rights management and file-format issues. A CD will play in any CD player from the last 30 years. MP3's tend to be a bit more finnicky.

    No DRM in mp3's and I've never had a problem playing a mp3 file in any mp3 player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭mr biazzi


    The press confrence with the guy of pirate bay if anyones interested. . .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭RHRN


    Next up: The Mininova Trial. Sometime in May.
    http://torrentfreak.com/mininova-trial-due-in-two-months-090316/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    Dartz wrote: »
    I was refferring to digital rights management and file-format issues. A CD will play in any CD player from the last 30 years. MP3's tend to be a bit more finnicky.

    I've also found that, scratches aside, CD's are a lot more permanent than files on a harddisk.

    im that sort too,some people think im crazy but,i always back up files/music/data onto cds/dvds,and how i laughed at those who said their comps got a virus and got wiped,also take into account hard disks can fail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭Keith186


    I'm disappointed with the verdict, I hope they get off in the appeal...
    I hope TPB gets bigger and bigger until it cripples some of the record companies that sued them, bring it on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    Keith186 wrote: »
    I'm disappointed with the verdict, I hope they get off in the appeal...
    I hope TPB gets bigger and bigger until it cripples some of the record companies that sued them, bring it on!

    unfortantly more likely the e.u will step in and come up with some law,overcoming the legal minefield on data protection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Taltos wrote: »
    Instead of going after these guys they should be hailed as entrepreneurs.
    In this time of recession - they have a business model that is sustainable and growing.

    In fairness, it's easy to make a business model on selling advertising at the website where you give away other people's intellectual property for free


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Fred83 wrote: »
    unfortantly more likely the e.u will step in and come up with some law,overcoming the legal minefield on data protection

    ACTA


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    And as I said a paypal account to fight the big movie/music industry by raising the $3m to "keep" TPB alive would make a killing too :pac:

    Well they have much more than 3m anyway atm, might as well get some more I spose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Well they have much more than 3m anyway atm, might as well get some more I spose
    How do you know that?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Ciaran500 wrote: »
    How do you know that?

    They get millions from advertisement/donations and tried to buy an island...for a start.1


    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Keith186 wrote: »
    I'm disappointed with the verdict, I hope they get off in the appeal...
    I hope TPB gets bigger and bigger until it cripples some of the record companies that sued them, bring it on!


    Why would you want that? Do you honestly believe they do not deserve to be sued after making millions on other peoples work?

    I hate how everyone gets behind these scumbags. Why is Mininova never in the spotlight like this? Now there's a business model.. they even have their own headquarters - http://blog.mininova.org/articles/2009/02/19/site-improvements-and-a-new-office/

    TPB's owners are fcuking idiots of the highest degree and as long as that site is around, the war between 'pirates' and the **AA's will continue, with no middle ground ever being reached.

    How could there be when there's a group that does what it wants with totally no regard for the people that produce the content..


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why would you want that? Do you honestly believe they do not deserve to be sued after making millions on other peoples work?

    I hate how everyone gets behind these scumbags. Why is Mininova never in the spotlight like this? Now there's a business model.. they even have their own headquarters - http://blog.mininova.org/articles/2009/02/19/site-improvements-and-a-new-office/

    TPB's owners are fcuking idiots of the highest degree and as long as that site is around, the war between 'pirates' and the **AA's will continue, with no middle ground ever being reached.

    How could there be when there's a group that does what it wants with totally no regard for the people that produce the content..

    In fairness, the record companies have been raping their artists forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭blubloblu


    I doubt they make millions. The advertising they have is the lowest grade, not many people want to deal with them. Also, they are one of the most popular sites on the internet, the bandwidth costs must be astronomical.

    I think they were far too arrogant, especially with their 'legal' page etc.
    They are guilty of assisting copyright infringement, I don't think you can deny that. However, so are hundreds(thousands?) of other websites that most people would call legitimate (Google). The prison sentence and millions of kroner fine was far too harsh and will most likely be reduced to something reasonable after appeal.

    The site will keep on operating, so I don't exactly see what the media corporations have achieved here.

    I'd be interested in seeing how much of the fine money goes to the artists mentioned in the lawsuit and how much goes towards these big multinationals that love suing everyone.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,119 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    blubloblu wrote: »
    I doubt they make millions. The advertising they have is the lowest grade, not many people want to deal with them. Also, they are one of the most popular sites on the internet, the bandwidth costs must be astronomical.

    Think their costs a year are 100k+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭Keith186


    Why would you want that? Do you honestly believe they do not deserve to be sued after making millions on other peoples work?

    I want it because it will hopefully make the music industry collapse so prices are more realistic and cut out the middle men.
    after making millions on other peoples work?
    Well if you had of said billions you could include Warner, MGM, Columbia Pictures, 20th Century Fox Films, Sony BMG, Universal and EMI which have made billion$ of artists work and kept a very hefty share while making it very hard for other artists who don't play the game to make it big...

    Edit: yeah what Ads by Google said, I was just typing it out when u posted :-)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    this puts the irate in pirate


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