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Getting information from the media

  • 14-04-2009 11:12AM
    #1
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭


    just wondering what everyone else thinks of this

    for example if you read newspapers, watch TV, read boards:)


    The Irish economy is going bankrupt, people are going to go hungry and there will be a brake down in civil society.

    or else we are just going through a painful adjustment and everything will be all right in a year or two.

    now both opinion's ( usually backed up by statistics ) cant be right

    so if you were making a decision and need unbiased accurate opinions where would you look.


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  • #2
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    The celtic tiger was the blip, we're just back to normal really.

    I don't read newspapers any more, the tabloids are just dumbass opinions and muck wrapped in tits.

    Watch RTE news and get the rest from the internet.


  • #3
    LouOB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭LouOB


    My wallet


  • #4
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    mariaalice wrote: »
    j

    The Irish economy is going bankrupt, people are going to go hungry and there will be a brake down in civil society.

    or else we are just going through a painful adjustment and everything will be all right in a year or two.

    Nobody can tell the future. These are peoples opinions backed up by statistics that help prove their opinion.

    >so if you were making a decision and need unbiased accurate opinions where would you look.

    Depends on the subject at hand. But if it had anything to do with the future of the Irish economy I think it's impossible to just look at Irish news sources.


  • #5
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Dole queues


  • #6
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    irish times and bloomberg are good. i get pissed of reading the independant cause it's cock.


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  • #7
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I find that if I ignore the media everything is just fine.

    There was more tax taken off my pay cheque in the last while but besides that everything is A-OK in AnonoBoy World.

    Yours living in denial,

    AnonoBoy.


  • #8
    seanybiker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The celtic tiger was the blip, we're just back to normal really.
    To right. :) must say it actually feels good to be back to normal. Least now me next door neighbour isnt getting builders in every week to change a light bulb


  • #9
    Nehaxak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭Nehaxak


    It's not as bad as what it was in the 80's (yet). Only thing that's really different now is that a lot more corrupt, greedy and selfish people were effected so they're just whining on about it all the time, boo hoo, I'm losing money on my property investments, etc.,

    Oh and I don't read newspapers nor watch the news on TV.


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    for the replies so far

    I'm only not talking about the opinions of some columnist in the news papers but the wildly different opinions of economists, who after all have the same training and education, yet can look at the Irish economy and give wildly different opinions.

    if you use dole ques ( or more accurately the rate of unemployment ) as an example

    Your could hold the opinion... thats the way it is in a modern capitalist society you will always have periodic episodes of recession resulting in unemployment OR

    you could say Ireland is a failed political entity ..the poor man of Europe etc and the Celtic tiger was just a blip. Therefore high unemployment is a result of that failed political entity


  • #11
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    mariaalice wrote: »
    for the replies so far

    I'm only not talking about the opinions of some columnist in the news papers but the wildly different opinions of economists, who after all have the same training and education, yet can look at the Irish economy and give wildly different opinions.
    That's because the economy is a work of fiction and fantasy, it can be whatever we want it to be. These people may want to make it serve their own interests or the interests of the people paying them to say those things. Some may like the economy to serve the people instead of the other way around.


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I'm only not talking about the opinions of some columnist in the news papers but the wildly different opinions of economists, who after all have the same training and education, yet can look at the Irish economy and give wildly different opinions.
    it's an imperfect science. these same different opinions are what makes room for profit in the stock market etc.


  • #13
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Your could hold the opinion... thats the way it is in a modern capitalist society you will always have periodic episodes of recession resulting in unemployment OR

    This would be my thinking. Before the Celtic Tiger when was the last time Ireland experienced a 'boom'? There's no reason why things won't get better (though they may get worse first).
    you could say Ireland is a failed political entity ..the poor man of Europe etc and the Celtic tiger was just a blip. Therefore high unemployment is a result of that failed political entity



    Probably not the thread for this but does anyone really think that there is anyone alive in this country who could have prevented a worldwide recession from affecting Ireland? All the elected officials can do is limit the extent of the increased unemployment but I think it's foolish to believe that someone could have stopped it.


  • #14
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Since when have journalists become experts on anything?

    As for economists - they tend to agree historically but come up with theories based on what information they study more - it's not possible to know about everything.


  • #15
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Since when have boardsies become experts on economics?
    fyp.


    your point about economic theory is true tho..


  • #16
    thelordofcheese
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Since when have journalists become experts on anything?

    Probably around the same time every second poster on AH did.


  • #17
    Économiste Monétaire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Économiste Monétaire


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    As for economists - they tend to agree historically but come up with theories based on what information they study more - it's not possible to know about everything.
    What?


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