irish women.... fussy... god no... i mean yes

CyberGhost · 11-04-2009 01:24AM

Hmm... it is true, they are uptight, fussy and think too much of themselves, and give back very little for such behaviour.

And unless they change their attitute there are going to be many unmarried Irish women.

More and more Irish men are marrying Eastern European and other foreign women, who are pretty, who respect and take care of their husbands, aren't fussy, and know how to cook.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 11-04-2009 01:31AM

CyberGhost wrote: »

Hmm... it is true, they are uptight, fussy and think too much of themselves, and give back very little for such behaviour.

And unless they change their attitute there are going to be many unmarried Irish women.

More and more Irish men are marrying Eastern European and other foreign women, who are pretty, who respect and take care of their husbands, aren't fussy, and know how to cook.

Not being babyish or anything, but I really cant see myslef marrying an Irish woman. Im only young, but in the few years ive had interacting with women, girls from europe etc seem more laid back, and can talk to me without thinking in the back of their heads that all I am out for is sex.

The world doesnt owe Irish women a favour. Perhaps its just the way us Irish man act towards our women. We feel the need to make them feel special, therefore we are taken as a collective bunch of idiots. They're not too far wrong. Walk into any nightclub and youll understand

dizzyniki · 11-04-2009 11:29PM

CyberGhost wrote: »

More and more Irish men are marrying Eastern European and other foreign women, who are pretty, who respect and take care of their husbands, aren't fussy, and know how to cook.

Oh yes...and who are looking for the all important passport!!!!!

alexandros · 11-04-2009 11:51PM

CyberGhost wrote: »

Hmm... it is true, they are uptight, fussy and think too much of themselves, and give back very little for such behaviour.

And unless they change their attitute there are going to be many unmarried Irish women.

More and more Irish men are marrying Eastern European and other foreign women, who are pretty, who respect and take care of their husbands, aren't fussy, and know how to cook.

I'll take any psycho b!tch with attitude over a woman that would be better described as some obedient lap dog.

Do you really want a woman that runs around catering to your every need?? Are you living in the 50's.

Your gf/oh is supposed to be your best friend.
Do you want a friend like the woman you are describing?

Besides.. who cares if they cook.. considering you would just lie about liking it anyway.

NickNolte · 11-04-2009 11:56PM

dizzyniki wrote: »

Oh yes...and who are looking for the all important passport!!!!!

Yes, because Eastern European women can't move, live and work freely in other EU member states or anything.

Horsefumbler · 12-04-2009 12:01AM

K-9 wrote: »

stupid and pointless.

sorry to paraphrase you here but this is correct

NickNolte · 12-04-2009 12:14AM

alexander.t wrote: »

I'll take any psycho b!tch with attitude over a woman that would be better described as some obedient lap dog.

I think there's a happy medium. A lot of Irish men are looking for an equal in a potential partner. A stuck-up cow with an attitude problem and an unjustified sense of entitlement who thinks she's living in one long episide of Sex & The City isn't an equal for most men. Of course, thankfully, not all women are vacuous, materialistic or bitchy. It's just that it's become quite endemic and noticeable with the advent of the Celtic Tiger.

Likewise, no man wants a subordinate doormat who has no respect for herself. The one thing I have noticed with a lot of my female friends is that they think most Eastern European women are like that. It's just not the case at all. For my experience, they're just a lot more laid back and have less of a propensity for social aggression and bitching.

This isn't an attack on Irish women by the way. It's just an observation and generalisation. I love Irish girls. They make up a large percentage of my friends. But I can honestly say I haven't met one that I would consider relationship material in terms of personality for a very long time.

dizzyniki · 12-04-2009 12:54AM

NickNolte wrote: »

Yes, because Eastern European women can't move, live and work freely in other EU member states or anything.

Am Eastern European and other foreign women was the statement..........and no some......eastern european women....as in certain parts of turkey and bulgaria and cyprus....are not free to roam anywhere in the EU smarty pants!!!!

Why does one always have to be so precise in these threads????

NickNolte · 12-04-2009 01:01AM

dizzyniki wrote: »

Am Eastern European and other foreign women was the statement..........and no some......eastern european women....as in certain parts of turkey and bulgaria and cyprus....are not free to roam anywhere in the EU smarty pants!!!!

Why does one always have to be so precise in these threads????

Well considering it's xenophobic to suggest that any woman from outside the EU would only be married to an Irish man for a passport, I decided to give the poster the benefit of the doubt and just label them ignorant instead. :pac:

CyberGhost · 12-04-2009 01:27AM

alexander.t wrote: »

I'll take any psycho b!tch with attitude over a woman that would be better described as some obedient lap dog.

Do you really want a woman that runs around catering to your every need?? Are you living in the 50's.

Your gf/oh is supposed to be your best friend.
Do you want a friend like the woman you are describing?

Besides.. who cares if they cook.. considering you would just lie about liking it anyway.

Why do people think that if a woman is caring and takes care of her family, she is weak and it's better if she was a psycho b!tch instead. The feminists have brainwashed you too much into thinking that.

Woman can be caring and very strong and infact women who are good housewifes are MUCH stronger than psycho b!tches, that will abandon you the first moment you have a fight or you are in trouble.

As for "Your gf/oh is supposed to be your best friend." that is absolutely not true, who says, who makes this standard that your girlfriend is supposed to be your best friend?

You are just going from one spectrum to another, from a lap dog to a tail wiggling friend.

I believe a man and a woman can never truly be friends, I mean there is a whole movie about it.

There is a natural hierarchy, a man is a provider a woman is a care taker, it's not the 50s thing(as feminists want you to believe), it's the nature's thing and the more you fight it and try to change it, the more divorces there are going to be.

Acacia · 12-04-2009 01:30AM

musicmonky wrote: »

Also parship.ie is crap... full of out of date profiles....

I always mis-read that as Parsnip.ie. I always wondered how you were meant to find the love of your life on a website about vegetables.

NickNolte · 12-04-2009 01:30AM

I'm not even going to touch CyberGhost's last post.

K-9 · 12-04-2009 01:39AM

Was going to quote a post or 2 there, but there have been many good posts on the last page.

So back to the OP, Generalisations are crap.

CyberGhost · 12-04-2009 01:49AM

NickNolte wrote: »

I'm not even going to touch CyberGhost's last post.

Use this,

SV · 12-04-2009 02:00AM

NickNolte wrote: »

I'm not even going to touch CyberGhost's last post.

Is that cos he's right?

humbert · 12-04-2009 02:07AM

I think when it comes to Irish women it's easy for us to see the things that are familiar and annoying and vice versa with foreign women, they're different and we see the best in them.

Oh, and and the lower rungs of any society tend to travel a lot less. So we encounter the Irish ones, but less often the foreign ones.

Though I do tend to find foreign girls more interesting for the very reason that they are different.

As for being fussy, these surveys are by and large performed by retards for retards.

humbert · 12-04-2009 02:22AM

CyberGhost wrote: »

There is a natural hierarchy, a man is a provider a woman is a care taker, it's not the 50s thing(as feminists want you to believe), it's the nature's thing and the more you fight it and try to change it, the more divorces there are going to be.

That is historically true is not longer so. If anything, what we are finding out is that the notion of mutually agreeable life long monogamy between two equals is a very ambitious goal.

K-9 · 12-04-2009 02:26AM

humbert wrote: »

That is historically true is not longer so. If anything, what we are finding out is that the notion of mutually agreeable life long monogamy between two equals is a very ambitious goal.

I think he brung up a valid point.
Roles have changed, before it was Mr. Nice Guy etc. and women moaned about that.

Now with with the R word, men are disproportionately losing jobs and often are at home minding children, by neccesity.

Now, whether Nature respects that is an interesting point.

Men being providers et all?

Seonad · 12-04-2009 02:56AM

CyberGhost wrote: »

Woman can be caring and very strong and infact women who are good housewifes are MUCH stronger than psycho b!tches, that will abandon you the first moment you have a fight or you are in trouble.

There is a natural hierarchy, a man is a provider a woman is a care taker, it's not the 50s thing(as feminists want you to believe), it's the nature's thing and the more you fight it and try to change it, the more divorces there are going to be.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but are you saying all women are one of two things:good housewives or "psycho b!tches"?

alexandros · 12-04-2009 03:32AM

Seonad wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm wrong but are you saying all women are one of two things:good housewives or "psycho b!tches"?

For the record.. I was not trying to split this into categories.

And as for your response CyberGhost:

As for "Your gf/oh is supposed to be your best friend." that is absolutely not true, who says, who makes this standard that your girlfriend is supposed to be your best friend?

I do.. I think it helps. A LOT.
Maybe not "best" friends.. but at least "very good" friends.
I want to be able to hang out with my gfs just as I would with anyone else that I call a friend.
If I didn't I would get on the net and buy a wife from Russia.

Also:
I can take care of myself just fine.
I grew up and left the nest long ago.
I don't need another mother.
I don't need a submissive human pet.
I would like a woman that will live out her own life along side me living my own. (for as long as that lasts)
Call it what you will.. I'm not looking to date you.

K-9 · 12-04-2009 03:43AM

alexander.t wrote: »

Also:
I can take care of myself just fine.
I grew up and left the nest long ago.
I don't need another mother.
I don't need a submissive human pet.

But do women want that?

They say they do, but does nature over ride what they say?

Woman and MEN, to be inclusive, say they have moved on, but I doubt it.

alexandros · 12-04-2009 03:55AM

K-9 wrote: »

But do women want that?

They say they do, but does nature over ride what they say?

Woman and MEN, to be inclusive, say they have moved on, but I doubt it.

In my experience most women don't know what they want.
The ones that do; are smart enough to know that what they want will always change.
I think both men and women will always tire of what they have and crave what they don't.
You know the little saying "The grass is greener on the other side" ?
Well consider this: "The grass is greener on the side you water"

There is someone for everyone out there somewhere.
I am not a Mormon; I'm not looking for thirty wives.
I'm not even looking for one (been there done that).
Just enjoying my life.
And there are plenty of women out there that are trying to do the same.

K-9 · 12-04-2009 04:04AM

alexander.t wrote: »

In my experience most women don't know what they want.
The ones that do; are smart enough to know that what they want will always change.
I think both men and women will always tire of what they have and crave what they don't.
You know the little saying "The grass is greener on the other side" ?
Well consider this: "The grass is greener on the side you water"

There is someone for everyone out there somewhere.
I am not a Mormon; I'm not looking for thirty wives.
I'm not even looking for one (been there done that).
Just enjoying my life.
And there are plenty of women out there that are trying to do the same.

Jaysus, I was lookig for an answer higher than than the normal AH answer and you have me dumbstruck.

I suppose trying to raise this above the normal AH discussion, were is Wibbs?

I'M Confused by your answer but maybe that's the point, women are confusing?

I completely agree both sexes want the grass is greener, though I think women hide that in a more indirect way and are less direct in saying that.

I'm lost on the Mormon point, though I think , maybe a 100 years ago you had a point. Mormons have changed!

ps. not looking myself but I think men are generally more direct, women more indirect. Not saying one is better than the other, but it leads to miscommunication.

Now getting back to the Nature point.

I still think Women want new things with modern society, but Nature calls.

alexandros · 12-04-2009 04:21AM

K-9 wrote: »

Jaysus, I was lookig for an answer higher than than the normal AH answer and you have me dumbstruck.

I suppose trying to raise this above the normal AH discussion, were is Wibbs?

I'M Confused by your answer but maybe that's the point, women are confusing?

I completely agree both sexes want the grass is greener, though I think women hide that in a more indirect way and are less direct in saying that.

I'm lost on the Mormon point, though I think , maybe a 100 years ago you had a point. Mormons have changed!

ps. not looking myself but I think men are generally more direct, women more indirect. Not saying one is better than the other, but it leads to miscommunication.

I am not disagreeing with anything you have said.
This was more of a reply to CyberGhost; who decided to go off on me.
Hope I haven't offended any Mormons.
And sorry to disappoint you in "keeping the discussion at the AH quality standard"
Allow me to rephrase:

I don't mind fcuking your subservient wife in the *** in the back of your new Lexus SUV while you are at work and your kids are 100 yards away at football practice. I think it's great that she cooks and cleans for you. And so long as she keeps buying me presents on your credit cards because it gets her off knowing she is somehow sticking it to you for treating her like a piece of meat YOU OWN... I'm good!

How is that?

K-9 · 12-04-2009 05:19AM

alexander.t wrote: »

I don't mind fcuking your subservient wife in the *** in the back of your new Lexus SUV while you are at work and your kids are 100 yards away at football practice. I think it's great that she cooks and cleans for you. And so long as she keeps buying me presents on your credit cards because it gets her off knowing she is somehow sticking it to you for treating her like a piece of meat YOU OWN... I'm good!

How is that?

Thumbs up. PMSL.

Though I suppose my point is, the wife could **** around for no real reason.

In fact she could appear to be perfectly well looked after , but mother Nature dictates she still strays?

Men are not supposed to stay at home and mind the kids. Very unpc to say that, but has nature attuned to Stay at Home Men?

bronte · 12-04-2009 10:27AM

Men are as capable of 'staying at home' as anyone else.

JangoFett · 12-04-2009 10:43AM

I find that when you're in a relationship with a woman that no matter how intelligent she is and how rational she is, she still expects you to be Professor X. And no, I don't mean wheelchair bound, or Patrick Stewart. My last girlfriend, who everyone said was really down to earth and had her head screwed on properly honestly expected me to read her mind, on a regular basis. And when I pointed that out to her, I was in the wrong for doing so.
I know so many guys with this problem. Maybe the survey should be called "Irish Women expect Irish men to be powerful mutants"

NickNolte · 12-04-2009 12:06PM

JangoFett wrote: »

I find that when you're in a relationship with a woman that no matter how intelligent she is and how rational she is, she still expects you to be Professor X. And no, I don't mean wheelchair bound, or Patrick Stewart. My last girlfriend, who everyone said was really down to earth and had her head screwed on properly honestly expected me to read her mind, on a regular basis. And when I pointed that out to her, I was in the wrong for doing so.
I know so many guys with this problem. Maybe the survey should be called "Irish Women expect Irish men to be powerful mutants"

That's just women in general. Expecting you to read their mind (which is impossible by the way) is a trait of women the world over. It's just a control mechanism used to manipulate your behaviour. Emotionally intelligent women tend not to do it.

NickNolte · 12-04-2009 12:08PM

bronte wrote: »

Men are as capable of 'staying at home' as anyone else.

Fine. Women are as capable of providing for the family as everyone else while the husband stays at home and minds the kids. Want to get married? You are a woman, right? I'm a really good cook.

Zzippy · 12-04-2009 12:35PM

Ariyah Weak Yo-yo wrote: »

Not being babyish or anything, but I really cant see myslef marrying an Irish woman. Im only young, but in the few years ive had interacting with women, girls from europe etc seem more laid back, and can talk to me without thinking in the back of their heads that all I am out for is sex.

The world doesnt owe Irish women a favour. Perhaps its just the way us Irish man act towards our women. We feel the need to make them feel special, therefore we are taken as a collective bunch of idiots. They're not too far wrong. Walk into any nightclub and youll understand

Strictly speaking, in a biological sense, in the back of your head all you are out for is sex.

irish women.... fussy... god no... i mean yes

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