Some thanks from Joe Public...

BeardyGit · 08-04-2009 05:39PM

TomRooney wrote: »

thats something i have never seen or heard of it happening anyone either.

Seen it myself on more than one occasion. I've only ever shown (un)common respect to the Gardaí and it has only ever been reflected as a positive experience. The number of people with a chip on their shoulders when it comes to dealing with the altogether normal men and women of the Gardaí's rank and file is altogether puzzling. Can't understand the attitude.

With regard to the original topic, can't see how the Gardaí should be treated any differently to other people who deal with members of the public on a daily basis. I was taught to say thanks, and the uniform/profession of the recipient is irrelevant. A simple and polite expression of gratitude is sufficient I would imagine for all members of An Garda Siochana, along with their colleagues in other services, no?

Surely common sense, good manners and a bit of decency is all it takes - Why the need for a song and dance? If everyone were to show these things, I think they'd see the person as opposed to the uniform. A little "thanks" and basic respect for another person is all it takes.

goldie fish · 08-04-2009 09:10PM

TheNog wrote: »

Definitely the hardest past of our job is notifying the people of the death of a loved one.

That's just it. I didn't do the notifying. He was from NI, I just passed on the message to the RUC in Donegall Pass. By the time his relatives came to identify him, the shock of their grief had mostly passed.

deadwood · 08-04-2009 09:33PM

TomRooney wrote: »

thanks is nice, but it is not part of a garda`s remit to look for thanks in any way shape or form.

If I went into a café and the owner gave me a cup of tea and/or a top-up on the house to go with my hang sangwidges, he'd be going "above and beyond" what's expected of a retailer.

If I didn't thank him i'd be considered a rude, ungrateful pig.

Why wouldn't any person expect some thanks for doing something. Several times, i've been offered money by (usually older, poorer) people for signing forms, starting cars, changing wheels etc. I've never accepted but the gesture means a lot.

Sometimes people say "thanks" in different ways.

I know one woman who leaves in apple tarts evey christmas to the station because she had a son who died young and she likes to treat the young lads who can't be with their families at that time of year.

Nothing asked or given, just a little gesture that makes an old lady happy.

Esel · 09-04-2009 06:23PM

deadwood wrote: »

If I didn't thank him i'd be considered a rude, ungrateful pig.

Reported for trolling....

ps I opened this thread as you were the last poster, and I was hoping for a bit of comic content. Disappointed, hence this post.

livvy · 09-04-2009 07:31PM

jetsonx wrote: »

Can you recall and incident where you went "above and beyond" your call of duty to help out a member of the public and got diddly squat thanks for it from the person you helped.

In a climate where having a job is a bonus i don't think i'd expect much thanks from joe public for doing a fairly secure job. My paycheck is all the thanks i need.

TheNog · 09-04-2009 08:00PM

livvy wrote: »

In a climate where having a job is a bonus i don't think i'd expect much thanks from joe public for doing a fairly secure job. My paycheck is all the thanks i need.

What is wrong with people these days you think its okay to think like that.

Would you say the same to EMTs who brought you to hospital after a traffic collision or to a firefighter for putting out your chimney fire??

To me that just smacks of not giving a crap about anyone else so long as you get your own way.

Disgusts me

livvy · 09-04-2009 08:17PM

At the moment thats how i feel. A lot of my friends have lost jobs and I do feel grateful for having a secure one. I don't know how that disgusts you. I think you may be taking my comment out of context

TheNog · 09-04-2009 08:28PM

Maybe I have.

Sorry

deadwood · 10-04-2009 10:34PM

I'm glad I have a job. It's just that i'm meant to feel guilty about it now.

I chose my job. I could have done several others with better pay, conditions etc. I knew i'd have a secure pension (which really isn't the first thing on any young persons mind starting a career, is it?). The governmant had a long-running campaign encouraging workers to sort out their pensions. I wonder how many actually did?

Should I feel guilty because I took advantage of the SSIA scheme?

Should I feel guilty because I have good medical cover which I pay €60 a week for?

I'm just glad I look like a sexy mother [EMAIL="f@#$er"]f@#$er[/EMAIL] in uniform and have a pile of students paying the mortgages in my portfolio of shoebox apartments in flatland.

Woo hoo. Public Service ROCKS!

Onikage · 11-04-2009 08:48PM

Well, you're a mixed bag of nuts but I respect you for doing a job most people wouldn't so I'm dedicating this 999th post to ye.

Sincerely, Joe

Local-womanizer · 11-04-2009 11:50PM

Good manners cost you nothing as my mother always said!

I have met plenty of members from the AGS who would give you their time to help you with the simplest things,like giving directions or even their mobile to make a call.On one or two occasions they have even stopped a taxi for me,and have had a good laugh at the same time,the usual pig jokes;)They usually come back with the bogger ones!:pac:

I know when I work I dont mind a thanks.At least you know people appreacate your effort.

TomRooney · 12-04-2009 01:00AM

Lads and lasses, i never said there were no decent people in AGS, there are a few, and possibly the force is getting better, but by and large they have a lot of work to do before they gain the full confidence and trust of the majority of people in Ireland.

there are many incidences i have witnessed were the Gards have not done there job, and in fact abused there power.

one would be in the coolock area, were i seen a scumbag joyrider skidding around in a car right in front of a garda patrol car, the gardai made no effort to apprehend the little scroat, and instead sat in there car untill the scumbag had drove the car into the ground and ran off, they then after it was all over walked over to the car to inspect it.

another time i and a friend were on our way back from the local, we had about 5 pints and were just strolling down the road on our way home, we were walking past this unmarked garda car when a plain clothes garda just jumped out from the passenger side and boxed me right in the ear shouting get in the car you dublin scum bag, then the other plain clothes garda jumped out and grabbed my friend, and pushed him into the car.

the garda in the passenger side turned round and started punching the head off my mate, then after a minute done the same to me, we asked what was it all about and they just said "are you trying to get smart" and done the same again. they brought us to the station and locked us up untill 6 am, when we were leaving the garda sgt got us to sign a form im not sure what it was, i asked could i make a complaint and the reply was "do you want to go back in the cell" "if you know whats good for you, you will go home now" so in my youthful naivity (19y) i let it go, i never told my parents because realy who would believe it.

so maybe i was unlucky in the experiance i have had with AGS, but i doubt i am the only one. i am just relating my experiances as they happened and am not trying to tar the whole force with the same brush, but to deny this sort of thing goes on is just living in denial.

just for clarity, i have no criminal history nor am i associated with any criminal elements, we were completly innocent and had done absolutely nothing but walk home.

eroo · 12-04-2009 08:13AM

The 'Lugs Brannigan' methods are and have been on the way out for quite some time. Nowadays Gardai can't really get away with it. You have the Ombudsman, the option to make a Formal Complaint and even such a thing as Judges looking for any signs of ill treatment of prisoners.

Most often, false complaints are made simply to throw a spanner in the works.. I'm not saying you are making any false claims either btw. An example would be one of the scrotes who was involved in the murder of Det.Gda.Jerry McCabe. He claimed ill treament while in custody. Medical checks etc proved otherwise.

Anyways this is off topic, but my point is you can't judge an entire organisation on the personality/actions of a few of it's members.

Hooch · 12-04-2009 11:33AM

TomRooney wrote: »

Lads and lasses, i never said there were no decent people in AGS, there are a few, and possibly the force is getting better, but by and large they have a lot of work to do before they gain the full confidence and trust of the majority of people in Ireland.

there are many incidences i have witnessed were the Gards have not done there job, and in fact abused there power.

one would be in the coolock area, were i seen a scumbag joyrider skidding around in a car right in front of a garda patrol car, the gardai made no effort to apprehend the little scroat, and instead sat in there car untill the scumbag had drove the car into the ground and ran off, they then after it was all over walked over to the car to inspect it.

another time i and a friend were on our way back from the local, we had about 5 pints and were just strolling down the road on our way home, we were walking past this unmarked garda car when a plain clothes garda just jumped out from the passenger side and boxed me right in the ear shouting get in the car you dublin scum bag, then the other plain clothes garda jumped out and grabbed my friend, and pushed him into the car.

the garda in the passenger side turned round and started punching the head off my mate, then after a minute done the same to me, we asked what was it all about and they just said "are you trying to get smart" and done the same again. they brought us to the station and locked us up untill 6 am, when we were leaving the garda sgt got us to sign a form im not sure what it was, i asked could i make a complaint and the reply was "do you want to go back in the cell" "if you know whats good for you, you will go home now" so in my youthful naivity (19y) i let it go, i never told my parents because realy who would believe it.

so maybe i was unlucky in the experiance i have had with AGS, but i doubt i am the only one. i am just relating my experiances as they happened and am not trying to tar the whole force with the same brush, but to deny this sort of thing goes on is just living in denial.

just for clarity, i have no criminal history nor am i associated with any criminal elements, we were completly innocent and had done absolutely nothing but walk home.

Hey tom
First thing...the joyriders, we have no power what so ever to stop a vehicle like that. Vehicle contact between a patrol car and a suspect car is totally forbiden and can lead to the member being investigated. This is the code we must follow (believe me you are preaching to the choir on that one, I'd like nothing more than to pit or ram a car to stop it and drag the little fcekers out by their ears!!!). The only thing we have is the stinger and that can only be used for certain offences and must be authorised by an inspector (and in all the times i've asked for permission to use it, it has never been granted)

One the second thing I'm sure I can speak not just for a few members but 95% of all members of AGS when i say sorry for those acts!! That was a long time ago im sure. Thing have changed for the better and that sh1t is long gone. So believe me when i say we are not at all as bad as you remember (although every human can have a bad day, yes even gardaí:eek:). Really hope you take something from this. Were good guys really!!

eroo wrote: »

The 'Lugs Brannigan' methods are and have been on the way out for quite some time. Nowadays Gardai can't really get away with it. You have the Ombudsman, the option to make a Formal Complaint and even such a thing as Judges looking for any signs of ill treatment of prisoners.

Most often, false complaints are made simply to throw a spanner in the works.. I'm not saying you are making any false claims either btw. An example would be one of the scrotes who was involved in the murder of Det.Gda.Jerry McCabe. He claimed ill treament while in custody. Medical checks etc proved otherwise.

Anyways this is off topic, but my point is you can't judge an entire organisation on the personality/actions of a few of it's members.

Well said eroo!

Some thanks from Joe Public...

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