Modern day Ireland

superreds12 · 01-04-2009 11:52AM #1

Let me start by saying that I was born in Ireland and grew up there until the age of 19, at which I was offered a job abroad which I accepted. Its been almost eight years now since I left and I must admit it’s the best thing I could ever have done. I just wanted to asked people’s idea on what they think of the present day Ireland as I myself after seeing so much of the world have grown to really detest the place. Here are just a few things that really annoy me about Ireland, would people here agree?

The scanger element with so many people just happy to sit on their ass, have a baby, get a free house and live off the government
The pure scumbags who hang around town, its just doesn’t feel safe to walk the streets late at night in town (Dublin) anymore.
Everything is totally overpriced, I mean 5 euro for a pint of beer, cigarettes, food etc.

I am Irish but I must admit that sometimes I am a bit embarrassed by the attitude of many Irish people when it comes to race and sexuality. Remember we are supposed to be the friendliest nation in the world, however it seems every time I’m home the racism just seems to be getting worse.

The reason I am asking people’s opinion on this is because as I said I have been away for so long and from the outside this is now my perception of Ireland.

Roadend · 01-04-2009 11:54AM

I hate that arial font has been banned in modern day Ireland

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-04-2009 11:55AM

Modern Ireland is an oxymoron.

SheroN · 01-04-2009 11:59AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Modern Ireland is an oxymoron.

The same **** in a different jar.

AnonoBoy · 01-04-2009 12:02PM

superreds12 wrote: »

The pure scumbags who hang around town, its just doesn’t feel safe to walk the streets late at night in town (Dublin) anymore.

How do you know if you've been away for 8 years?

Dublin now is actually the safest place in the world. Women and OAPs can walk the streets at any time of night with absolutely no fear of assault or robbery.

The government has done wonderous things with the city - no more litter, very little crime and people greet total strangers warmly on the street as if they were long lost brothers. It's a great place to live.

Lobelia Overhill · 01-04-2009 12:03PM

I came home 17 years ago and in that time I've watched the charm vanish and be replaced with harshness ...

me-skywalker · 01-04-2009 12:07PM

superreds12 wrote: »

................ Here are just a few things that really annoy me about Ireland, would people here agree?

The scanger element with so many people just happy to sit on their ass, have a baby, get a free house and live off the government
The pure scumbags who hang around town, its just doesn’t feel safe to walk the streets late at night in town (Dublin) anymore.
Everything is totally overpriced, I mean 5 euro for a pint of beer, cigarettes, food etc.

I am Irish but I must admit that sometimes I am a bit embarrassed by the attitude of many Irish people when it comes to race and sexuality. Remember we are supposed to be the friendliest nation in the world, however it seems every time I’m home the racism just seems to be getting worse.

The reason I am asking people’s opinion on this is because as I said I have been away for so long and from the outside this is now my perception of Ireland.

are you being racist towards irish people?

i think its pathetic that these are your perceptions and your embarrassed?
there are pro's and cons to every city and country and every country has there hang ups but i wouldnt say its as bad as you think...

do you think every second person is a scumbag or skanger and a bum? the reason you see these ppl out on town is because they dont have jobs and when your in town during the week the majority of the population is working....

Terry · 01-04-2009 12:09PM

Lobelia Overhil wrote: »

I came home 17 years ago and in that time I've watched the charm vanish and be replaced with harshness ...

Money does that.

Blazer · 01-04-2009 12:10PM

Nothing like a recession to bring racism out.
Especially in the older generation....even my old fella has surprised me with his comments about polish etc.
I ask him "what about all those lazy Irsh fcuks who sit on their holes doing nothing and scamming the dole".. at least the polish are coming over here and working.. he sees my point then of course..until the next thing happens..

Even in the pub I heard all the dole scroungers bitching about the foreigners...I feel absolutely sickened by it..

superreds12 · 01-04-2009 12:11PM

I am not saying every Irish person is like this all am I saying is that there are too many Irish people like this!

Carroller16 · 01-04-2009 12:14PM

Mathew Reilly wrote: »

Nothing like a recession to bring racism out.
Especially in the older generation....even my old fella has surprised me with his comments about polish etc.
I ask him "what about all those lazy Irsh fcuks who sit on their holes doing nothing and scamming the dole".. at least the polish are coming over here and working.. he sees my point then of course..until the next thing happens..

Even in the pub I heard all the dole scroungers bitching about the foreigners...I feel absolutely sickened by it..

Totally agree. My owfella is coming out with random stuff bout foreigners lately. I've never heard him like this before.

Mr.Lizard · 01-04-2009 12:16PM

Modern Ireland is dead and gone. It's with O'Bama in the grave.

mike65 · 01-04-2009 12:23PM

Todays mayhem in lil old Ireland

A 64-year-old publican has been found dead in his premises in Daingean near Tullamore in Co Offaly.

He was found tied to a chair by one of his two sons at around 7.30am this morning.

Gardaí say he was the owner of the pub and lived on the premises on Main Street in Daingean.
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The man was a widower and the father of four children.

He had been working in the area for more than 30 years as a publican.

The death is being treated as suspicious and Deputy State Pathologist Dr Michael Curtis is due at the scene this afternoon

A gang of up to seven men is being sought following an attack in Dundalk, Co Louth.

At around 9.40pm last night, the gang entered a house off Avenue Road and stabbed one of the occupants several times in the legs.

Gardaí believe a number of shots were also fired during the attack.

Two men are being treated in hospital following an attack in Co Tipperary.

One man was shot and another stabbed at Glen Court, Emly, at around 3.30pm yesterday.

The first man received stab wounds to the back and the second was shot in the leg.
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Both are being treated in hospital and their injuries are not believed to be life threatening.

In a follow up operation gardaí stopped a car in Limerick city and arrested five men in their 20s.

Hells Belle · 01-04-2009 12:33PM

gosh I'd like to live where you do superreds12, no crime, everyone lovely, every one working....is it only in your head maybe?

dublinario · 01-04-2009 12:35PM

I yearn from a simpler time, when toothless simpletons would bare-knuckle box a heifer in the village square, for nowt more than a gallon of moonshine. A time when the womenfolk would parade their solitary tooth (called chomper) in front of the toothless men, sending them into a frenzy of public masturbation. Ye Olde Ireland, where have you gone?

superreds12 · 01-04-2009 12:37PM

I do visit Ireland once or twice a year to visit my family and I find it strange the short memories that so many people have. It wasn't so long ago that the Irish where the Polish of the world travelling everywhere and anywhere where there was work in order to support their families. As soon as the tied turns and people are coming to our country to find work people suddenly have a problem with it.

Puddleduck · 01-04-2009 12:39PM

That happens in every country. Seriously, a few bad apples and the whole bunch is rotten apparently.

Terry · 01-04-2009 12:57PM

I know a few people who had the crap kicked out of them in St. Stephen's green on Paddy's day.

Paddy's day 1989.
Apparently the scum element isn't new.

me-skywalker · 01-04-2009 01:18PM

superreds12 wrote: »

I am not saying every Irish person is like this all am I saying is that there are too many Irish people like this!

too many doesnt justify a broad sense of defamation! look at the crime and anti-social activity of other european countries and the social underbelly in the other major cities you'll find its alot worse than here. you dnt get greeted with hugs and tip of the hats here but there is a sub-concious respect to live amongest each other.

there is a social 'need' for these people and their behaviour as a balance to the rights and wrongs and human nature and the order of life. clearly if there was no bad eggs their wouldnt be a moral outrage or self-ego, self-rightous greater than tho attitudes which can affect society even worse than the less off.

LaMer · 01-04-2009 01:19PM

I don't think Ireland has a problem with racism, we're in good shape compared to some European nations in respect to right wing and extremist groups, I don't even think we have any credible parties campaigning for immigration control. How the downturn changes that will be interesting to see.

And I wouldn't think Ireland is unsafe, again much better shape in regards to other european nations.

mp3guy · 01-04-2009 01:37PM

Anyone who thinks Ireland is good should really take a trip to Scandinavia, they know how it's done.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-04-2009 01:51PM

mike65 wrote: »

Todays mayhem in lil old Ireland

A 64-year-old publican has been found dead in his premises in Daingean near Tullamore in Co Offaly.

He was found tied to a chair by one of his two sons at around 7.30am this morning.

Gardaí say he was the owner of the pub and lived on the premises on Main Street in Daingean.
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The man was a widower and the father of four children.

He had been working in the area for more than 30 years as a publican.

The death is being treated as suspicious and Deputy State Pathologist Dr Michael Curtis is due at the scene this afternoon

There are parts of the country where this woudl almost qualify as natural causes!

listermint · 01-04-2009 01:52PM

mp3guy wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Ireland is good should really take a trip to Scandinavia, they know how it's done.

Is that beside Narnia?

Rsaeire · 01-04-2009 01:57PM

LaMer wrote: »

I don't think Ireland has a problem with racism, we're in good shape compared to some European nations in respect to right wing and extremist groups, I don't even think we have any credible parties campaigning for immigration control. How the downturn changes that will be interesting to see.

And I wouldn't think Ireland is unsafe, again much better shape in regards to other european nations.

So what you're essentially saying is because we don't have neo-nazi's, the country cannot possibly be deemed racist?

Ireland is racist, it's been like this for years and it has been getting worse the more foreign nationals come into the country. I am not saying it is right to be racist towards anyone, including foreign nationals, I am merely giving one reason as to why it is currently this way.

markok84 · 01-04-2009 01:58PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

He was found tied to a chair by one of his two sons at around 7.30am this morning.

so they know that one of his two sons tied him to the chair at around 7:30....

Quazzie · 01-04-2009 01:59PM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

There are parts of the country where this woudl almost qualify as natural causes!

He was strapped, hands tied to a chair. Nought natural about that.

Initial reports suggest it was a robbery that went wrong.

stovelid · 01-04-2009 02:05PM

Apparently people were assaulted in Ireland in the 90s, 80s, 70's and 60's too.

lightening · 01-04-2009 02:08PM

superreds12 wrote: »

Let me start by saying that I was born in Ireland and grew up there until the age of 19

So you have lived in Ireland for one year of your adult life.

superreds12 wrote: »

its just doesn’t feel safe to walk the streets late at night in town (Dublin) anymore.

Rubbish, its perfectly safe, I have been doing it more or less every weekend for the last 12 years.

superreds12 wrote: »

Everything is totally overpriced, I mean 5 euro for a pint of beer, cigarettes, food etc.

Excellent value to be got in town, particularly with food, open your eyes (and your mind), give up the smokes, you will be able to afford more.

superreds12 wrote: »

this is now my perception of Ireland.

Its a perception, a completely skewed one.

LaMer · 01-04-2009 02:22PM

Rsaeire wrote: »

So what you're essentially saying is because we don't have neo-nazi's, the country cannot possibly be deemed racist?

Ireland is racist, it's been like this for years and it has been getting worse the more foreign nationals come into the country. I am not saying it is right to be racist towards anyone, including foreign nationals, I am merely giving one reason as to why it is currently this way.

Eh no, but if you read my post we're in better shape, and don't have a problem with racism like other nations have, simple as. We have low instances of racially motivated crime, foreigners can get the same job as Irish people do, and we have liberal immigration laws and no group seems set to change these laws.

Lobelia Overhill · 01-04-2009 02:35PM

Trinny. wrote: »

Money does that.

Yeah I suppose that is the "problem" ... 17 years ago 'town' was 2-3 miles away and had nothing in the line of facilities, but everyone would smile and say "hello".

Now the town is on our doorstep, there are cars roaring up and down the road day and night, no one looks at you - unless you know them. People are treating me as a foreigner and being rude to me in shops etc. There's a gang of school kids who keep shouting at me in town and tried to follow me up the road the other day ...

Yeah yeah, I know, piss off somewhere else then ...

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-04-2009 02:48PM

lightening wrote: »

Excellent value to be got in town, particularly with food, open your eyes (and your mind), give up the smokes, you will be able to afford more.
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Where? When ever I head back, I wind up paying 50% more for food that struggles to get to the same quality as most places on the continent. And that's nearly everywhere, it's not isolated.

Modern day Ireland

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