Brian Peters

walshb · 26-03-2009 12:14AM

Joxer Brown wrote: »

dont be a clown, judging someone on an hours documentary is childish. i work for the man and i can tell ye he's a decent skin. the swearing was definitely not put on for the camera anyone that knows him will tell you that.

someone even said he sounds like a skanger swearing hahaha what a dope. the man has done more for boxing than any of these forum junkies who think they're a class above. priceless

So he really is a skanger then!

It wasn't put on. Thanks for clearing that up.

"who think they're a class above. priceless"

Man, I didn't think striving to come across as mannerly
and respectable was trying to be a cut above!

Joxer Brown · 26-03-2009 12:16AM

walshb wrote: »

So he really is a skanger then!

It wasn't out on. Thanks for clearing that up.

just because the mans vocabulary contains profanity's does not mean he's a skanger. your telling me everyone in this country who swears is a skanger ?!? thanks for clearing that up , clown.

Joxer Brown · 26-03-2009 12:17AM

walshb wrote: »

So he really is a skanger then!

It wasn't put on. Thanks for clearing that up.

"who think they're a class above. priceless"

Man, I didn't think striving to come across as mannerly
and respectable was trying to be a cut above!

who was striving to be mannerly and respectable?

walshb · 26-03-2009 12:18AM

I swear, and too much at times; however, I would at least curb it when
on national TV. You make all the excuses you like, he came across as
a skanger who lacked articulation and thought the best method was
to use knacker language on the television.

Sad, but whatever you're into!

Joxer Brown · 26-03-2009 12:20AM

walshb wrote: »

I swear, and too much at times; however, I would at least curb it when
on national TV. You make all the excuses you like, he came across as
a skanger who lacked articulation and thought the best method was
to use knacker language on the television.

Sad, but whatever you're into!

i really don't understand how you assosiate swearing with knackers and skangers. i 100% see your point that its innapropriate on national tv but knacker and skanger is a bit far fetched.

walshb · 26-03-2009 12:27AM

Okay then, the fact that the man hadn't the decency or courtesy to
participate on the programme without resorting
to a foul tongue tells me enough about him.

Reminded me of another eejit, Cafferey, the Dubs
manager, and his foul tongue, trying to sound all
macho on that programme about the Dubs.
Muppets. Colin Farrell the same, it's all an act
by guys who are simply too inarticulate to convey
themselves

It was completely unnecessary and in bad taste and
I noticed that the times he was using it were so
banal and boring. That is why it seemed
staged and for the cameras.

I usually swear to emphasise, like most do. He was using
expletives for the sake of it.

He was the only one, so what's his excuse.

I'm sure his wife and young children were ever so proud of
how he came across. He came across as a knacker, that's all I saw!

I expected better and didn't get it.

BTW, the term knacker, don't read too much into
it. I simply used it to get the point across.
Skanger, knacker, low life, inarticulate, muppet,
clown, gouger etc etc. Just terms!

Joxer Brown · 26-03-2009 12:34AM

walshb wrote: »

Okay then, the fact that the man hadn't the decency or courtesy to
participate on the programme without resorting
to a foul tongue tells me enough about him.

Reminded me of another eejit, Cafferey, the Dubs
manager, and his foul tongue, trying to sound all
macho on that programme about the Dubs.
Muppets. Colin Farrell the same, it's all an act
by guys who are simply too inarticulate to convey
themselves

It was completely unnecessary and in bad taste and
I noticed that the times he was using it were so
banal and boring. That is why it seemed
staged and for the cameras.

I usually swear to emphasise, like most do. He was using
expletives for the sake of it.

He was the only one, so what's his excuse.

I'm sure his wife and young children were ever so proud of
how he came across. He came across as a knacker, that's all I saw! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I expected better and didn't get it.

shocking.

walshb · 26-03-2009 12:35AM

Wow, you are easily shocked!:eek:

BTW, in comparison to Bernard, he's no match.
Bernard is a gentleman and comes across as such!

Joxer Brown · 26-03-2009 12:39AM

walshb wrote: »

Wow, you are easily shocked!:eek:

yeah maybe. anyway regardless of his choice of language i hope to see him stage a few more world title fights in ireland in the near future. jaysus if he could bring one out to meath we'd be laughin' !!!

walshb · 26-03-2009 12:43AM

Joxer Brown wrote: »

yeah maybe. anyway regardless of his choice of language i hope to see him stage a few more world title fights in ireland in the near future. jaysus if he could bring one out to meath we'd be laughin' !!!

Joxer, as you know him personally, I'll take your word that
he's a decent skin; so, the next time you are
talking to him, put a word of advice in and tell him that the foul
tongue doesn't suit him. It's not cool!:) And never was!

Joxer Brown · 26-03-2009 12:48AM

walshb wrote: »

Joxer, as you know him personally, I'll take your word that
he's a decent skin; so, the next time you are
talking to him, put a word of advice in and tell him that the foul
tongue doesn't suit him. It's not cool!:) And never was!

ha ha ha will do !

sligobhoy67 · 26-03-2009 01:28AM

Joxer Brown wrote: »

just because the mans vocabulary contains profanity's does not mean he's a skanger. your telling me everyone in this country who swears is a skanger ?!? thanks for clearing that up , clown.

I agree - bad choice of words walshy!

walshb · 26-03-2009 02:04AM

sligobhoy67 wrote: »

I agree - bad choice of words walshy!

On national tv, it's a wee bit different, it boils down to a skanger. It's pub talk!
You would expect that from a bunch of howyas' on the Adrian Kennedy phone show!

Daroxtar · 26-03-2009 02:30AM

walshb wrote: »

On national tv, it's a wee bit different, it boils down to a skanger. It's pub talk!
You would expect that from a bunch of howyas' on the Adrian Kennedy phone show!

Peters is many things but he's not a jackeen. He'd be disgusted at that one. Low blow,Ouch:D

Shaniev · 26-03-2009 02:54AM

Joxer Brown wrote: »

dont be a clown, judging someone on an hours documentary is childish. i work for the man and i can tell ye he's a decent skin. the swearing was definitely not put on for the camera anyone that knows him will tell you that.

someone even said he sounds like a skanger swearing hahaha what a dope. the man has done more for boxing than any of these forum junkies who think they're a class above. priceless

Joxer Brown wrote: »

just because the mans vocabulary contains profanity's does not mean he's a skanger. your telling me everyone in this country who swears is a skanger ?!? thanks for clearing that up , clown.

Joxer Brown wrote: »

who was striving to be mannerly and respectable?

Joxer Brown wrote: »

i really don't understand how you assosiate swearing with knackers and skangers. i 100% see your point that its innapropriate on national tv but knacker and skanger is a bit far fetched.

Joxer Brown wrote: »

shocking.

Joxer Brown wrote: »

yeah maybe. anyway regardless of his choice of language i hope to see him stage a few more world title fights in ireland in the near future. jaysus if he could bring one out to meath we'd be laughin' !!!

Joxer Brown wrote: »

ha ha ha will do !

How ya Brian congrats on the weekend ya put a good show together

:D

Jesus1222 · 26-03-2009 03:51AM

You do know what a documentary is? Right?

Credit to Peters, Saturdays was a world class
show and a fantastic card. If Dunne is involved with him over a
long time he must be alright.

walshb wrote: »

Okay then, the fact that the man hadn't the decency or courtesy to
participate on the programme without resorting
to a foul tongue tells me enough about him.

Reminded me of another eejit, Cafferey, the Dubs
manager, and his foul tongue, trying to sound all
macho on that programme about the Dubs.
Muppets. Colin Farrell the same, it's all an act
by guys who are simply too inarticulate to convey
themselves

It was completely unnecessary and in bad taste and
I noticed that the times he was using it were so
banal and boring. That is why it seemed
staged and for the cameras.

I usually swear to emphasise, like most do. He was using
expletives for the sake of it.

He was the only one, so what's his excuse.

I'm sure his wife and young children were ever so proud of
how he came across. He came across as a knacker, that's all I saw!

I expected better and didn't get it.

BTW, the term knacker, don't read too much into
it. I simply used it to get the point across.
Skanger, knacker, low life, inarticulate, muppet,
clown, gouger etc etc. Just terms!

T-K-O · 26-03-2009 08:32AM

I met Peter a dew time through a friends business - he owns a few pubs as far as I know.

One poster made out that Peter took a huge gamble on Dunne and has lost money on him - he lost money on one out of how many fights.

As far as fighters go Dunne is pretty much a sure thing in Ireland - low risk if you will.

And for another poster branding people suckers for going to the events that is ludicrous - their boxing fans. I go to all events in Dublin and not just Peters - I have also spent a fortune going to fights in the states - I guess I'm the biggest sucker of all:rolleyes:

Barname · 26-03-2009 08:43AM

Shane10 wrote: »

is he getting enough credit for what hes done for dunne and boxing in general in ireland since he brought it back. looks like a guy ud see in your local but id say hed buy and sell ya and i mean that in a good way. must be a very shrewd operator. does anyone on here know much about him or had any dealings with him ? seems like an interesting character IMO.

Hello Brian!

Shane10 · 26-03-2009 10:02AM

LowOdour wrote: »

Its funny you say that cus he goes into a pub my uncle works in the sticks in Galway. When Dunne first started fighting in Ireland my uncle said that he would like to go see it. Peters gave him 2 free tickets for the fight. Ever since, he has given my uncle 2 free tickets for every fight but for the world title fight, he landed into the pub with 2 ringside tickets and hotel accomidation as a thank you for his loyal support.

My uncle is no big shot, just a local fella that works in a bar. From the stories he tells me, he is a down to earth guy that chats away like any other local. Sounds like a decent chap to me.

wow thats a cool story and a brilliant thing to do, fair play. some of the people on here giving out about his cursing on the dunne documentary...come on people. we do it every day all of us, big deal.

T-K-O · 26-03-2009 10:06AM

Shane10 wrote: »

wow thats a cool story and a brilliant thing to do, fair play. some of the people on here giving out about his cursing on the dunne documentary...come on people. we do it every day all of us, big deal.

Fc*k off

Shane10 · 26-03-2009 10:19AM

T-K-O wrote: »

Fc*k off

FCUK U....;)

doug1970 · 26-03-2009 10:20AM

i am a big fan of what peters is doing in irish boxing at the moment.
last weekend was one of the best boxing events ever in ireland...
i worried before about how the mix of amauer/women/pro boxing would work, but it was a master stroke, it could not have worked better, and i would love to see him put amatuers on his cards in the future...
maloney might call him an amatuer, an i'm glad to hear that, because what he is is a new blood promoter with his own ideas and is not following the template laid down by promoters before him...i wouldnt want peters to become like maloney, i want him to continue going the way he is going...
last weekend was a great weekend for irish boxing in many ways because of that event...and thats not just based on dunnes win.

very happy with the way peters is going.

Johnduddy · 26-03-2009 10:41AM

T-K-O wrote: »

I met Peter a dew time through a friends business - he owns a few pubs as far as I know.

One poster made out that Peter took a huge gamble on Dunne and has lost money on him - he lost money on one out of how many fights.

As far as fighters go Dunne is pretty much a sure thing in Ireland - low risk if you will.

And for another poster branding people suckers for going to the events that is ludicrous - their boxing fans. I go to all events in Dublin and not just Peters - I have also spent a fortune going to fights in the states - I guess I'm the biggest sucker of all:rolleyes:

I think thats my post you are talking about there TKO.

My point was not that Peters has taken huge financial gambles on Dunne and remortgaged his house to get him a shot.

My point was that whatever peoples opinion are of Peters that I dont think there is a promoter that would have acheived the same level of success IN IRELAND.

If Dunne was such "Low Risk" why did he stop putting on shows in Dublin ?
It made business sense to put on show in castlebar.

After the loss to Kiko a lot of people thought that was the end of Dunne and TBH I doubt if he put on a show in the stadium if it would have been half full.

He might be "Low Risk" again now but after that loss he was far from Low risk.

What if Dunne lost to Cordoba what then ?

T-K-O · 26-03-2009 11:03AM

Johnduddy wrote: »

I think thats my post you are talking about there TKO.

My point was not that Peters has taken huge financial gambles on Dunne and remortgaged his house to get him a shot.

My point was that whatever peoples opinion are of Peters that I dont think there is a promoter that would have acheived the same level of success IN IRELAND.

If Dunne was such "Low Risk" why did he stop putting on shows in Dublin ?
It made business sense to put on show in castlebar.

After the loss to Kiko a lot of people thought that was the end of Dunne and TBH I doubt if he put on a show in the stadium if it would have been half full.

He might be "Low Risk" again now but after that loss he was far from Low risk.

What if Dunne lost to Cordoba what then ?

Putting shows on in castlebar was great idea Dunne as far as boxers go Dunne is low risk here in Ireland be it Dublin Cork or Belfast.

Munroe fights in barn halls/leisure plexes....

Yeah he lost, fighters loose. He had three successful fights after that and even if Dunne never got back in the ring after Kiko I would still bet Peter was in the black when it came to promoting Dunne.

I would suggest that Dunne/Peters have been making money from almost day one.
It's widely know that Dunnes take home has been huge in terms of his division and standing. They more or less have the market cornered.

If he lot to Cordoba it would have been a disaster - but I would suggest that Dunne earned less in order to entice the champion to Ireland.

Johnduddy · 26-03-2009 11:24AM

T-K-O wrote: »

Putting shows on in castlebar was great idea Dunne as far as boxers go Dunne is low risk here in Ireland be it Dublin Cork or Belfast.

Munroe fights in barn halls/leisure plexes....

Yeah he lost, fighters loose. He had three successful fights after that and even if Dunne never got back in the ring after Kiko I would still bet Peter was in the black when it came to promoting Dunne.

I would suggest that Dunne/Peters have been making money from almost day one.
It's widely know that Dunnes take home has been huge in terms of his division and standing. They more or less have the market cornered.

If he lot to Cordoba it would have been a disaster - but I would suggest that Dunne earned less in order to entice the champion to Ireland.

Of course he took a paycut to get a shot here.

But you understand my point TKO - Im not talking about whether Dunne and Peters have made or lost. The point was made that Peters would drop Dunne if he started to lose money - which isnt the case.

"They more or less have the market cornered".
This was also my point in my OP. No other promoter could take advantage of this like Peters - Like I said if Maloney or Warren were promoting Dunne, he'd probably be fighting in leisure centres aswell.

T-K-O · 26-03-2009 11:37AM

I'm not taking anything away from Brian - the show last week was excellent. But many different factors contributed to that happening.

IMO it was great timing for Peters, boxing was down and out also there was no other show in town - then the Freddie Roach trained Dunne returns home and at the time there was nobody else really on the scene - boxing was like a sleeping giant and this whole team brought it back to the main stream.

It's hard to compare Brian to Frank or Dunne to Munroe because they have bigger fish over there with Hatton, Khan and up until recently Calzaghe.

The timing was perfect, Dunne was the right guy and Brian Peters pulled it all together - again while it all worked out well I do not believe that is was a Peters master plan from the start.

He couldn't have pulled this of in another country he also couldn't have pulled it off without Dunne.

Johnduddy · 26-03-2009 11:51AM

T-K-O wrote: »

It's hard to compare Brian to Frank or Dunne to Munroe because they have bigger fish over there with Hatton, Khan and up until recently Calzaghe..

The point I have been trying to make since the start of this is because of their "Bigger Fish" Dunne wouldnt get a look in if he was with Maloney or Warren and would end up fighting in halls like Munroe.

T-K-O wrote: »

He couldn't have pulled this of in another country he also couldn't have pulled it off without Dunne.

This was also my point from the start of the discussion.

walshb · 26-03-2009 01:19PM

Jesus1222 wrote: »

You do know what a documentary is? Right?

Credit to Peters, Saturdays was a world class
show and a fantastic card. If Dunne is involved with him over a
long time he must be alright.

The documentary was about Dunne, not Peter's. I do know well what a doc
is.
Peter's came across poorly and the foul tongue didn't suit
him and was inappropriate and out of place for national television

Shane10 · 26-03-2009 01:33PM

i thought he came accross ok, good operator. esp about the music that was funny, and when he was talking to his secretary about giving away the tickets on the phone....telling her to be more blunt HA.

HollowMan · 26-03-2009 04:24PM

I have dealt with Brian Peters before and he's a nice fella, very down to earth and a true boxing fanatic.
I know a couple of boxers and trainers who have dealt with him and they all say he is absolutely spot on.
Look what he did for irish boxing last Saturday night.
You have some neck to call him a knacker walshb, just because he cursed a bit on a documentary, which is supposed to be real life. What have you doen for Irish boxing?
Do you think nobody in the O2 effed and blinded out of them last saturday night??
I'm not the type to get vindictive on message boards but you are a real sickener.
Also, rumour has it that Peters paid Andy Murray's trainer in England a fortune to buy him out of his contract just to get Murray's career back on track. That's not publicised but I heard it from a good source.

Brian Peters

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