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Help wanted with possible eBay scam - Dell laptop question?

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  • #32
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    I was waiting on that, would love to know what item he bought, shame it was private


  • #33
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    They bought one of the XBoxes :(

    http://www.goofbay.com/ebay_bid_history_tool.html?gbl_username=skellybeans&gbl_days=30&gbl_submit=&gbl_submit.x=8&gbl_submit.y=13


  • #34
    ttm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    Ouch, suspect more to come then eBay will close the account so we can't see anymore bad feedback or that eBay isn't as safe as they say :(


  • #35
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    Another neg has been added..


  • #36
    ttm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    Thats was a negative for one of the laptops that started this thread, but 295.00euro for....

    DELL LATITUDE D630
    Free small external 500GB hard drive. Bringing the total storage space of each laptop to 1TBI will also include a free new 16GB Corsair USB key with each laptop.

    This laptop is new and comes with 3 years next business day business warranty (warranty will be transferred to you)
    500GB internal Hard drive and free 500GB external Hard Drive.
    4GB RAM

    Comes with wifi, bluetooth, modem, nic etc

    ......it was all the free extras with a top spec system that had me asking about service tags (well actually if its a Dell system I always ask for the Service Tag number)


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  • #37
    ttm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    3 negative in as many hours, another Xbox buyer.


  • #38
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    The most recent negative is from a user with 908 feedback, and been on eBay for 5 years. How can you be around that long, use it that much, and not spot a scam as blatantly obvious as this?

    Unsurprisingly, eBay are doing nothing about it. Doesn't matter now anyway, the seller/scammer got what he wanted, and probably cleared out the Paypal account a week ago.


  • #39
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    jor el wrote: »
    The most recent negative is from a user with 908 feedback, and been on eBay for 5 years. How can you be around that long, use it that much, and not spot a scam as blatantly obvious as this?
    Ebayed ebay account! Buy instant trust :pac:


  • #40
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    7 negs now... I wonder if they all know how to open a dispute?

    http://feedback.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=smurfu2&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=365


  • #41
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    Quite amazing that theres a few high feedbacks from the buyers... 909, 867, 213?

    Silly silly. Tunnel Vision is definatly at work here.

    867 bought THREE

    Paid £350 For 3 Xboxs Via Paypal ~ No Response ~ No Items ~ Complete Con


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  • #42
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    3 more negs added...

    334, 266, and 29 feedbacks. How can people with high feedback not realise that this was so dodgy?!


  • #43
    ttm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    All I can say in the defence of anyone who got ripped off is that I reported the seller to eBay giving the same reasoning as I did in my posts here and they ignored it.

    I joke that eBay bin my reports but if they did keep a file they'd know I was correct 99% of the time (must have reported 1000's of items and sellers in the past for standard scams) and this type of scam has been on the decrease recently but as I heard eBay were "letting a lot of staff go" I just wonder if the scams will start increasing again?


  • #44
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    ttm, maybe you can help me get my head around this scam.

    I understand that seller had items for sale, sold at a ridicoulously (cant spell) low price, got paid by Paypal for all items presumably...

    Ok, so I know that part.

    Now, Paypal balances get transferred into your bank account. When the money is no longer in your Paypal balance, can Paypal retrieve the money from the sellers bank account, or is there no way of getting it back from the seller?

    In other words, does the seller escape with the money? I guess they do, but surely theres a way of Paypal reversing the withdrawn money..

    I'm just very confused.


  • #45
    ttm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    I don't sell on eBay so I can't really explain how the seller gets his money out? So if anyone can explain how that works please do!

    What I am fairly sure of is that if there is no money in the sellers PayPal account then the buyers can't get their money back.


    One way to take your money and run might be this
    http://workonlineguides.com/how-to-get-money-out-of-paypal-when-you-have-no-bank-account/ ?


  • #46
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Eireann wrote: »
    In other words, does the seller escape with the money? I guess they do, but surely theres a way of Paypal reversing the withdrawn money..

    I'm just very confused.
    Once Paypal has moved them to the bank account they have no way what so ever to reverse it. This of course is beyond the fact that the person would withdraw the cash as soon as it arrived and close the account/transfer it on some where else.


  • #47
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    It sounds like scammers paradise. Yet more negs and the user is still registered... doesnt make sense!


  • #48
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Eireann wrote: »
    In other words, does the seller escape with the money? I guess they do, but surely theres a way of Paypal reversing the withdrawn money..

    I'm just very confused.

    Yes, the scammer withdraws the money from Paypal, possibly to a bank account, and does a runner. There is something Paypal could do, instigate a fraud investigation into the scammer. They don't do this though, because they are profiting from the scam, as are eBay. Lets not forget, that out of the money the buyer pays to the seller, Paypal take a cut. The buyer gets shafted, the seller takes the money and Paypal take their cut. eBay also make money from the initial listing fee, and final valuation fee.

    Paypal and eBay are profiting from fraud, which is something they don't want to publicise, as it's quite illegal to knowing facilitate and profit from a fraudulent action, and makes them accomplices to it.

    It's a handy little earner though, as the buyer has no way to discover the identity of the seller, as this is guarded by Paypal.
    ttm wrote: »
    I don't sell on eBay so I can't really explain how the seller gets his money out? So if anyone can explain how that works please do!

    The bank account could have been set up using identity theft, so as to hide the scammers real identity, but since neither eBay nor Paypal are actually investigating these scams, they could probably use their own account, and still get away with it.
    ttm wrote: »
    What I am fairly sure of is that if there is no money in the sellers PayPal account then the buyers can't get their money back.

    Correct. Only if the buyer paid by credit card do they have any hope, as a charge back may work for them (though not always).


  • #49
    ttm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭ttm


    Well there he goes; clocked up 16 negatives in less than 24hours before he becomes Not a registered user wow the power and speed of eBay (not).

    Only thing that does is protect eBay from any further negative feedback.

    Just incase anyones wondering here's what I said when I reported this seller on the 14th of March TWO weeks ago!

    Item number(s):
    250389375482
    250389377544
    250389376719
    250389372221

    Message: Seller is selling Hi Value laptops and has never sold before. Possible account Hijack. Buyer asked for Dell Service Tag which is on all Dell computers and also on the packing boxes, reply was "sorry, all these are sealed in boxes. i cant get to the individual tags without breaking the seal". The Service Tag is unique to each machine and would allow the buyer to check the system was genuine, even when packed the Service Tag are normally visible. So if the user does not have the computers he claims to have for sale he can't supply the Service Tags. Seller has also already just sold brand new graphics cards at about half retail price, no law against it but seller only needs to sell one genuine graphic card and get + feedback to be able to take his money 3K + and run?


    Edit > Also reported a second time a few days later from another account as I never trust eBay to do anything about items reported over the weekend (14th was a Saturday) but I think I forgot to tick the send copy to my email box as I can't find a copy anywhere.


  • #50
    Eireann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Eireann


    ttm, good on ya for trying


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