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Do you not care about Rugby?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Can I point out that it was an IRISH team that won. not a dublin team. The majority of hate on this thread is because of the "snobby attitude" of other people who play or like. Ironic that you wont support a sport because you dont want to be associated with a small few of the other people who support it. now who's "snobby"?
    The Irish rugby team is a team picked from the four corners of this island, from all walks of life. The fans are the same. But, those of you who see it as snobby, can't look beyond a petty hatred for a small few, to get behind a national team in their glory years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    oppiuy wrote: »
    how would you regard the standard of teams in the six nations this year?And will they make any impact in the next world cup

    There's a dedicated Rugby forum for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I am surprised that people want to pick hairs out of a great occasion .The team was representing ireland ,the country .It's a big sporting achievment that is to be celebrated by all irish ,even those who couldn't tell a rugby ball from a soccer one. This is the one that future irish sporting generations will look back on just like the 1948 team .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    Gerry Thornley put it best:

    " Not even going to the theatre or the movies can throw up drama on this scale. Only great sporting occasions can do so, and everything about Saturday’s finale belongs in the pantheon of great Irish sporting moments. We thought Munster reaching their Holy Grail wouldn’t be bettered but it has been. The sport that unites Catholic, Protestant and dissenter has had its day of days. Pity anybody who can’t enjoy it. Some day."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭themont85


    RaverRo808 wrote: »
    Dont know if its just me,but I just couldnt give a sh*t about a rugby,I dont know anything about the game,who plays it,the rules,I have tried to watch it,but I just couldnt be arsed,I can never even remember hearing about Rugby till I was about 18,it was never something played in school,we were all about the GAA,soccer,athletics and the odd bit of table tennis,never anything about rugby,Im not alone,alot of the boys I grew up in the area with would be the same and they're sprots mad,so are you like me,a rugbyaphobe or are you rugby mad?

    GAA isn't that big where im from. Soccer is big enough but rugby is the main sport. Different areas, different trends to sports. I don't start a thread about the not caring about the All Ireland final each year when tbh I don't really, I watch it sometimes and respect it but it doesn't mean much to me, as it doesn't to my friends. Most people aren't into athletics but that gets a great press when the big occasions come up.

    Btw to the person who said 'soccer is the only sport that truly unites the public', what about the north and the large chunk of the population who don't follow the Republic and probably never will unless attitudes change. Rugby, the most protestant of sports up north still is the only major team sport we have which is played on a united front.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    I've always been a rugby fan and I have no problem with people only becoming fans in recent years with the success of Irish teams. The more, the merrier.

    Saturday was a great day out even for people with no interest in the game. Sport is great for epic piss-ups. I'm in the horrors now but it was worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭khmk


    MikeHoncho wrote: »
    Gerry Thornley put it best:

    " Not even going to the theatre or the movies can throw up drama on this scale. Only great sporting occasions can do so, and everything about Saturday’s finale belongs in the pantheon of great Irish sporting moments. We thought Munster reaching their Holy Grail wouldn’t be bettered but it has been. The sport that unites Catholic, Protestant and dissenter has had its day of days. Pity anybody who can’t enjoy it. Some day."

    :rolleyes:

    6 of the same teams who play each other every single year.

    wow its some achievment.

    ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Reflector


    I love rugby but I've played for years, I don't follow soccer but if Ireland are playing I'll pop out to the local. Sure it doesn't matter what the sport you have to get behind your country.

    Any friends of mine who didn't like rugby once they gave it a chance and the got the hang of the rules they grew to like it. Also I find i enjoy watching sports with other people who are fans. Their excitement rubs off on you(god that sounds dodgy).

    So head out with some rugby fans and let them rub their excitement all over you.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    I tryed to get into it but it just bored me to tears,Im a soccer man and Im looking forward to this saturdays qualifier with bulgaria and next wednesdays one with Italy :D.

    "The robin in the garden,

    That was me,

    I'm still here, Loving you..

    Until we meet again. "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭themont85


    khmk wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    6 of the same teams who play each other every single year.

    wow its some achievment.

    ffs.

    Ye it is a great achievment. I suggest you check the record books.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Hippo


    khmk wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    6 of the same teams who play each other every single year.

    wow its some achievment.

    ffs.


    Trolling perhaps? Maybe you're just very very young.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭themont85


    I tryed to get into it but it just bored me to tears,Im a soccer man and Im looking forward to this saturdays qualifier with bulgaria and next wednesdays one with Italy :D.

    Different strokes for different folks. Thats fair enough. Better than the people who just spout uninformed dislike for a sport based on stereotypes-ie 'there is something about rugby and people thinking they are superior'.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Steyr wrote: »
    Absolutely love it, amazing to see how many jumped on our bandwagon since Saturday:pac:


    Bottom line is Rugby is the only sport that this Country is doing anything good in, Soccer is a joke etc.

    Ya thats why were 2nd in our group on joint points with Italy :rolleyes:.were in a good position to qualify for the world next summer.

    "The robin in the garden,

    That was me,

    I'm still here, Loving you..

    Until we meet again. "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    khmk wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    6 of the same teams who play each other every single year.

    wow its some achievment.

    ffs.
    all sport is played against the same teams every year.
    premiership.
    cricket.
    american football.
    baseball.
    Hurling.
    Gaelic.

    The players and management change. The skill levels change. The tactics change.
    Some helpful reading for you..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Ya thats why were 2nd in our group on joint points with Italy :rolleyes:.were in a good position to qualify for the world next summer.
    we've had all our easy games in the football so far. Give it time. anyway, it doesnt have to be a competition between rival sports.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    I tryed to get into it but it just bored me to tears,Im a soccer man and Im looking forward to this saturdays qualifier with bulgaria and next wednesdays one with Italy :D.

    Professional Soccer (especially the English Premiership) is extremely boring not the actual game of soccer.

    The actual game is probably the easiest and most accessable game to play. Nearly anyone can play, anywhere, as long as you got a ball and jumpers for goal posts.

    As for watching it, I really only watch the latter stages of the Champions League or International Tournements. The majority of the games are seriously boring and way too built up, how many ads have i seen were SkySports builds a double header of games all week saying they are the biggest games of the season (only about 4 weeks into the season) for both games to end 0-0 or 1-0. I dont really blame SkySports they are just trying to make a buck, i blame the idiots who sit all day watching Soccer Saturday were the prestenter is so enthusiatic about a goal in League 2 that would put American sports commentators to shame.

    Worst of all is you have irish people sitting in their living room covered in Man U/Liverpool/Celtic posters, scarfs, etc on a Saturday, while down the road from them their local eircom league team dies a slow death. I know people here are talking about the international team but how many of you follow your eircom league team over a Man U or Liverpool?


    At least international rugby is played by players who ply their trade in Ireland and are from Ireland? I think a lot more pride can be taken in seeing the Ireland rugby team suceed instead of the England B Ireland soccer team suceed.

    As for rugby being boring, give me a Munster H cup games or that game on Saturday over an Ireland San Marino soccer game anyday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    themont85 wrote: »
    Better than the people who just spout uninformed dislike for a sport based on stereotypes-ie 'there is something about rugby and people thinking they are superior'.

    Speaking of which, I hope you don't mind me saying it, but themont85 must be one of the most rugbyish names I've ever seen on boards. My collars are popping of their own accord just reading it. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 beezer84


    Agree massively with Zuroph's point....it is afterall the European Championships of rugby, only the best get to play in it...winning every game in a tournament of that magnitude for a country of our size with about 100 professional players to choose from is really is something to celebrate and enjoy, whether you like the game or not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 sparkytrypod


    ah come on, how could u not get wsept away by the emotion of it all, even ryle nugent was nearly crying!! i even shed a tear!! 'im not proud of it, not ashamed of it either it was just something i had to do'!!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭oppiuy


    i dont think this thread was started to see how many begrudged ireland winning, but to voice opinions on who was really bothered that they did.

    The Parading of champions looked fantastic yesterday, and i wish the teams or sports i follow could be part of something amazing like that, but i am tired of people who truely never followed rugby jumping around like clowns and talking nonsense to me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭pisslips


    I don't see how people can see it as an elitist sport,it's accessible to all.

    There are many many things I like about the sport.I also like GAA, unfortunately though I don't understand the 'passion' people have for soccer.


    The thing i hate most about watching soccer matches but which doesn't happen in rugby is the way in which referees and rules are treated and respected. I still don't understand and it infuriates me, why players don't get yellow cards or sent-off for cursing and continously complaining to referees about decisions. Honestly proffessional soccer players look like spoilt children. Why don't referees send them off?

    I like the way in rugby, there's a position for every type of person. Be he a footballer with vision, full-back,out-half....a slight fast player, winger....a heavy, prop....or the lanky stong slightly awkward guy....second row and everything in between.
    It's particularly good for fat kids I think, who get ignored in sports where they might have ability but can't keep up with the pace of play in GAA or soccer.


    Also having played a number of sports, I find rugby to be far superior.The reason is that, you always have a job to do, you're always engaged for 80 minutes and your always physically and mentally drained by the end. I always thought with soccer particularly that I might have to wait periods of up to 4 minutes to get the ball or tackle someone, depending on position, with rugby it's like less than 1 minute, sometimes every 15 seconds.

    Sport needs a certain amount of physicality to interest me for starters. A sport like soccer is too restrictive, you can't act on trained instinct, theres so much hesitation in the physical contact. I mean it's crazy that a guy who is stronger and faster and possibly more skilled can't just disposses another guy fairly, it barely even seems possible anymore.

    And then it's the mental attitude, you stamp on a rugby guys face and he'll get stitches come back on the field and get you but only if it doesn't affect his team winning.
    You'll be banned anyway.

    You trip a professional soccer player up and he starts crying and telling (his mammy) the referee to give you a yellow card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭pisslips


    Also, as far as supporting goes.

    With the Irish rugby team, most of the players grew up and trained in Ireland and you can see them every week in Dublin, Limerick, Cork or Belfast. You can meet them in the pub, you can talk to them. They are the same as you or me. Similar to GAA players really.

    But with soccer, a lot of the guys have lived in England since they were 14. I don't know anyone who went to school with them. I've never seen them in Coppers.:rolleyes:. They're so far removed from me that they might aswell be English. Tony cascarino wasn't even remotely Irish. The rugby selection panel have a hard time picking Georden Murphy, on the bench becuase he plays in England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Indie18


    I'm not a rugby fan by any means. I didn't watch one game during the six nations, but if you asked me am I proud of the teams achivement I would say yes of couse. I would be pround of any Irish teams achivement on a world stage but it wouldn't make me watch it though. What I don't like is people ridiculing me because I decided to watch the Arsenal game on saturday instead of Ireland and Wales, a few people have and quite emotionally too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    I don't think I'll ever in my lifetime understand what it is about a load of men running around after a ball that works people up enough to shout at a television for an hour.

    Although at least it's not as bad as soccer.
    If Ireland are winning something, I'll watch it. God knows it doesn't often happen.

    We always win the hurling!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    pisslips wrote: »
    I don't see how people can see it as an elitist sport,it's accessible to all.

    Honestly proffessional soccer players look like spoilt children. Why don't referees send them off?

    I like the way in rugby, there's a position for every type of person. Be he a footballer with vision, full-back,out-half....a slight fast player, winger....a heavy, prop....or the lanky stong slightly awkward guy....second row and everything in between.
    It's particularly good for fat kids I think, who get ignored in sports where they might have ability but can't keep up with the pace of play in GAA or soccer.
    I find rugby to be far superior.The reason is that, you always have a job to do, you're always engaged for 80 minutes and your always physically and mentally drained by the end. I always thought with soccer particularly that I might have to wait periods of up to 4 minutes to get the ball or tackle someone, depending on position, with rugby it's like less than 1 minute, sometimes every 15 seconds.

    And then it's the mental attitude, you stamp on a rugby guys face and he'll get stitches come back on the field and get you but only if it doesn't affect his team winning.
    You'll be banned anyway.

    You trip a professional soccer player up and he starts crying and telling (his mammy) the referee to give you a yellow card.

    said it better than i ever could! just highlighted some points i stongly agree with there! I like rugby, i get that not every ones into it and thats cool, i respect that,but given the choice,have to say, soccer bores me to tears whereas Rugby is engaging and fast moving.

    just my 2c... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭Quint


    pisslips wrote: »
    you always have a job to do, you're always engaged for 80 minutes and your always physically and mentally drained by the end. I always thought with soccer particularly that I might have to wait periods of up to 4 minutes to get the ball or tackle someone, depending on position, with rugby it's like less than 1 minute, sometimes every 15 seconds.
    You obviously never played on the wing. And in fairness, with the stop start nature of rugby, you mightn't get the ball for 20 minutes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 833 ✭✭✭pisslips


    Quint wrote: »
    You obviously never played on the wing. And in fairness, with the stop start nature of rugby, you mightn't get the ball for 20 minutes!


    Fine admitedly a half-back but I have played on the wing a few times. So the other team have the ball, your covering the kick, your watching the opposing half-backs, your following your opposite winger to prevent an overlap. Your reading the play and communicating it to the inside backs, since you have the best view, most time.

    Your full back goes forward so you cover, they make an 8-9 break down the blind so you have to decide whether to rush up or hold back and wait for support.

    Anyone breaks the line, your trying to offer support since your the best finisher. Your constantly reading the opposing defense to see if you can find any staggers gaps to exploit and offer yourself as a strike runner.

    In rugby, you can make yourself busy.It's mostly mental pressure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Quint wrote: »
    You obviously never played on the wing. And in fairness, with the stop start nature of rugby, you mightn't get the ball for 20 minutes!

    You don't need to touch the ball in rugby to impact on the game. The same can be said of soccer too in fairness but not to the same extent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    The bandwagon thing is stupid.The whole idea of sport is for people to enjoy it so if people start watching when it becomes enjoyable so what.

    In fairness I wouldent start watching Charlton play just because they are losing and nobody else cares about them,that would just be stupid!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    javaboy wrote: »
    You don't need to touch the ball in rugby to impact on the game. The same can be said of soccer too in fairness but not to the same extent.

    Add in to the mix the physical nature of rugby compared to football aswell.Tackling and getting tackled takes alot out of you.


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