Taxi driver protest

signman12 · 19-03-2009 11:27PM

lods wrote: »

http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/

Just great for a Friday:mad:

what are they complaining about this time :rolleyes:
bloody hell & I'm in town tomorrow, typical

godtabh · 19-03-2009 11:44PM

signman12 wrote: »

what are they complaining about this time :rolleyes:
bloody hell & I'm in town tomorrow, typical

They arent getting their way so they want to piss off their customers some more. Its bound to work

bcirl03 · 19-03-2009 11:49PM

Ah no, not the taxi crowd again.

Please leave us alone - WE DONT CARE!

signman12 · 20-03-2009 12:27AM

kearnsr wrote: »

They arent getting their way so they want to piss off their customers some more. Its bound to work

just like the government,
they don't care about us either

lods · 20-03-2009 09:15AM

bcirl03 wrote: »

Ah no, not the taxi crowd again.

Please leave us alone - WE DONT CARE!

Obviously most taxi men don't care. 30K licences & 2K protrested the last time.

irishmusico · 20-03-2009 09:04PM

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Ratzo Rizzo · 22-03-2009 01:19AM

**** 'em. Just off off a LUAS, 3 cars went the opposite direction, th efourth took me home. If they were that wooried about there job one of the first 3 would have U turned and takenm me home, ****' em bunch of lazy *****
Like my bruv says. too many chippies but you don't see them out protesting.
**** off yopu buncjh off lazy ***** and take fares when you're offered you useless slobs...

Taxipete29 · 22-03-2009 02:37AM

Ratzo Rizzo wrote: »

Like my bruv says. too many chippies but you don't see them out protesting.

They are probably too busy studying for their PSV Test

Terrontress · 22-03-2009 04:15AM

Taxipete29 wrote: »

They are probably too busy studying for their PSV Test

Ha, ha, ha. Or not, if you'd believe some of them!

signman12 · 22-03-2009 10:37AM

so is this an end to it,
have they gained support from the general public, I think not !

will we all be wearing "support your local taxi" badges, hmmmmmmm:rolleyes:

being self employed is never easy, that's something that taxi drivers need to accept, it's a free market, just get on with it.

if you provide a good service & your prices are good then you'll survive.

remember there is no point in having a protest if only less than 10% of your members are not happy, all you do is alienate yourselves more.

bully tactics don't work any more

Taxipete29 · 22-03-2009 11:55AM

signman12 wrote: »

if you provide a good service & your prices are good then you'll survive

This statement shows you really have no knowledge of how the industry works at all.

Terrontress · 22-03-2009 12:50PM

Taxipete29 wrote: »

This statement shows you really have no knowledge of how the industry works at all.

Elaborate.

lost marbles · 22-03-2009 01:55PM

Terrontress wrote: »

Elaborate.

on one thread you make a statement about letting the taxi drivers protest and everyone else getting on with their lives .
and then you come into this thread and want to carry on with the same old rigmaroll [is that a word :rolleyes:]
will you ever just please make up your mind on what you want .

Terrontress · 22-03-2009 02:04PM

lost marbles wrote: »

on one thread you make a statement about letting the taxi drivers protest and everyone else getting on with their lives .
and then you come into this thread and want to carry on with the same old rigmaroll [is that a word :rolleyes:]
will you ever just please make up your mind on what you want .

It's not just as easy as dismissing someone's statement as they don't understand the taxi industry. If the statement is inaccurate or ill-thought, it's better to point out why.

I don't disagree with the taxi drivers right to protest but I don't think they should be doing it and think the current system should remain.

lost marbles · 22-03-2009 02:40PM

Terrontress wrote: »

It's not just as easy as dismissing someone's statement as they don't understand the taxi industry. If the statement is inaccurate or ill-thought, it's better to point out why.

I don't disagree with the taxi drivers right to protest but I don't think they should be doing it and think the current system should remain.

as is your right .
and you have made some good points [only a few but good none the least] in the threads you posted on.
look at this this way [from my point of view ] .
everyone should agree that this government has fecked up the whole country from boom to bust in what must be a record for world ecomonics .
their policies an example ill use here [the installing of the quangos ] to deflect the sh1t from their doorsteps .
the taxi regulator is one such quango .
part of why taxi drivers are protesting is the policies of the office of the taxi regulator .
im not going to go over all the other issues we have .yet again !.
to have some muppet then post a reply
"taxi drivers are just a shower of lazy whinging sh1ts "
for someone to start a thread "should there be a levy put on every taxi driver who protests "[how intelligent is that ]
these threads have run their course at this stage
the taxi drivers will protest and it will interfere with some peoples lives .
thats what living in a democracy is all about .
so some will disagree, and some will agree .
that life folks

signman12 · 22-03-2009 07:24PM

naaa theres more life left in this thread,
like how does the taxi industry work

Calina · 22-03-2009 08:04PM

Hi.

friendly mod note:

non-constructive posts will be removed and posters of same may and have been banned or infracted.

As you were.

Calina

Taxipete29 · 22-03-2009 11:23PM

signman12 wrote: »

naaa theres more life left in this thread,
like how does the taxi industry work

Taxis are a generic product, there is very little way for a single operator to set themselves apart from the thousands of other drivers out there ( exception maybe guys with 6/7/8 seaters).

I could be giving discounts to all my customers and providing excellent customer service, but at the end of the day I will almost never get repeat business as a result. According to your theory doing the above should help me survive in a free market, but im pointing out it doesnt hold in an industry where one car and driver is the same as the next when your flagging them down on the street. You cannot ask for a specific driver when you phone a company, so it doesnt apply there either and poaching regular customers from the firm your working with will result in your radio being taken off you.

The above reasons are why free-market economics dont apply as readily in the taxi industry as they do in other industries and this is the bit nobody except people in the industry seem to understand.

signman12 · 22-03-2009 11:50PM

Taxipete29 wrote: »

Taxis are a generic product, there is very little way for a single operator to set themselves apart from the thousands of other drivers out there ( exception maybe guys with 6/7/8 seaters).

I could be giving discounts to all my customers and providing excellent customer service, but at the end of the day I will almost never get repeat business as a result. According to your theory doing the above should help me survive in a free market, but im pointing out it doesnt hold in an industry where one car and driver is the same as the next when your flagging them down on the street. You cannot ask for a specific driver when you phone a company, so it doesnt apply there either and poaching regular customers from the firm your working with will result in your radio being taken off you.

The above reasons are why free-market economics dont apply as readily in the taxi industry as they do in other industries and this is the bit nobody except people in the industry seem to understand.

thanks for your explanation pete, I can see your dilemma.

I hope I won't get banned for asking for an explanation.

but how is protesting in the city & making life hell for all the other road users going to solve this?

when I get taxi's in wicklow I always specify the driver when making a booking & there seems to be no problem in doing this, when I used to live in dublin I did the same.

i'm lovely! · 22-03-2009 11:57PM

to solve the amount of new licences coming into the taxi industry. it seems a clear solution for this is that any new taxi coming in should be no older than 5 years and them have to be replaced after 10 years. this way there would not be an overcrowding of taxis and us, the people, would not have to sit in old dirty taxis.

Taxipete29 · 23-03-2009 12:07AM

signman12 wrote: »

when I get taxi's in wicklow I always specify the driver when making a booking & there seems to be no problem in doing this, when I used to live in dublin I did the same.

Not sure about Wicklow, but I have worked for alot of firms in Dublin and have yet to find one its allowed in

Taxipete29 · 23-03-2009 12:15AM

signman12 wrote: »

but how is protesting in the city & making life hell for all the other road users going to solve this?

Its about making the Government and Minister Dempsey in particular sit up and take notice. Unfortunatly the public being disrupted is a necessary evil.

Taxipete29 · 23-03-2009 12:17AM

i'm lovely! wrote: »

to solve the amount of new licences coming into the taxi industry. it seems a clear solution for this is that any new taxi coming in should be no older than 5 years and them have to be replaced after 10 years. this way there would not be an overcrowding of taxis and us, the people, would not have to sit in old dirty taxis.

Such a regulation is on the way, by 2012 no taxi will be over 9 years old

signman12 · 23-03-2009 08:14AM

Taxipete29 wrote: »

Not sure about Wicklow, but I have worked for alot of firms in Dublin and have yet to find one its allowed in

in crumlin village, the taxi firm there never had a problem in requesting a driver

signman12 · 23-03-2009 08:23AM

Taxipete29 wrote: »

Its about making the Government and Minister Dempsey in particular sit up and take notice. Unfortunatly the public being disrupted is a necessary evil.

but has he taken any notice, did he even know it even happened

Terrontress · 23-03-2009 08:27AM

Does anyone else find the use of the word "hate" towards taxi driving astonishing.

It has started off with taxi drivers on here responding to comments with "you just hate us so we can't take your comments seriously". Then it was confirmed by other posters saying they do "hate" taxi drivers.

To be honest, I try to use taxis as little as possible, due to the cost, but when I do I am always glad to see one.

Taxi drivers on here seem to revel in this hatred.

I'd like to ask the drivers who have accused others of being taxi haters why they think a percentage of the public hate them and what could be done about it.

signman12 · 23-03-2009 08:27AM

Taxipete29 wrote: »

Such a regulation is on the way, by 2012 no taxi will be over 9 years old

"9 years old" :eek:
how old are some of the taxi's at the moment

mikemac · 23-03-2009 12:38PM

There are a lot of battered Toyota Corollas out there. And I mean battered!

I suppose it's the perfect car for a driver, solid and reliable.

But don't be suprised when I skip you in the rank :pac:
As I am perfectly allowed to do.

Regarding the 9 year rule though there are excellent Mercedes out there too, realy well cared for.

I suppose someone will say what does it matter?? It doesn't realy but for a long journey why not go for the best car

Gumbo · 23-03-2009 12:49PM

signman12 wrote: »

in crumlin village, the taxi firm there never had a problem in requesting a driver

im sure if you tried that now, it wont be allowed! imagine you are john and are next on the list to get the job, but somebody rings up and asks for peter who is 12th on the list, i dont think john or the other drivers in between would be happy, or allow it to happen at the moment.

mikemac wrote: »

There are a lot of battered Toyota Corollas out there. And I mean battered!

I suppose it's the perfect car for a driver, solid and reliable.

But don't be suprised when I skip you in the rank :pac:
As I am perfectly allowed to do.

Regarding the 9 year rule though there are excellent Mercedes out there too, realy well cared for.

I suppose someone will say what does it matter?? It doesn't realy but for a long journey why not go for the best car

the nine year rule is not thought out imo

yes there are alot of old camry's and corrolla's that are in bits and fit for the scrap yard, but there are a few that would put new cars to shame, and i think the rule should car to car orientatied, ie a stricter NCT test for taxis that would ensure the well kept cars are kept on the roads.

theres one or two old mercs being uses as taxi's and they are immac, and i got them before and would have no problems using them again.

there are 3 year old cars out there that are in bits, smelly inside, bad condition outside but yet they are legal to use, but the flip side is the is alot of immac 3 year old cars out there too.

amtaxi · 23-03-2009 02:27PM

yes there are alot of old camry's and corrolla's that are in bits and fit for the scrap yard, but there are a few that would put new cars to shame, and i think the rule should car to car orientatied, ie a stricter NCT test for taxis that would ensure the well kept cars are kept on the roads.

theres one or two old mercs being uses as taxi's and they are immac, and i got them before and would have no problems using them again.

there are 3 year old cars out there that are in bits, smelly inside, bad condition outside but yet they are legal to use, but the flip side is the is alot of immac 3 year old cars out there too.[/quote]

A test called a "Suitability Test (vehicle has to be suitable for use as taxi - a car which is not immaculate does not pass)" which is carried out when the car is first licenced should be done annually for licence renewal this would ensure that even a 3 year old car or a 9 year old car would be in top condition.