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Anti-Taxi protest protest

  • 20-03-2009 02:16PM
    #1
    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭


    Ok, Who is with me? Plan is anytime there is a taxi protest, the still to be set up lobby group, Drivers Against Taxi Protests, DATP, will park in Taxi ranks, Block Taxi's into the ranks so they are unable to carryout their work. General delaying techniques, like not letting them pull out at junctions, Blocking htem when they park with their hazards on etc.

    It's time the ordinary Joe Public stood up to these people who just block public roads when they want and have no remorse to the rest of us.

    I post the e-mails below in the commuting section, and you can see the response they have for the general public....

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055516755&page=4

    Can you please explain why the ordinary worker has to endure another protest by Taxi drivers? Holding a protest during rush hour traffic is not going to help your case, it will turn public support, IMO very little public support, further against taxi drivers.

    As a private sector worker who commutes 80 miles a day to and from work, I find your protest irresponsible to all other road users. So much in fact I am going to look into starting a lobby against all taxi drivers. Ideas I have are to park in taxi ranks, refuse to let taxi’s pull out at junctions. In fact anything that is legal to make the working day harder and more stressful to all taxi drivers just as they do to myself and other innocent motorists.

    Regard's,

    Dear Sir,
    You sound very stressed witch I will put down to your long commute.
    You are welcome to park at taxi rank if you can get on one you might have to drive round for an hour or so and then q with rest of taxis for at least an hour.
    You could always take a job along with the other illegal drivers

    Regards

    Sir/Madam,

    My only stress is when Taxi’s decide to block the general public with their protests. The actions of your group mean that I will need to leave my home 1 hour earlier than normal to get to my workplace on time. This then causes other problems, like getting the kids to the childminders within a reasonable hour.

    I do certainly believe that your organisation do not have a clue or understand the general public feeling about these type of protests.

    Also “Which” is the correct spelling, not witch, as I do not use a broomstick.

    If anyone has any suggestion, please post here....


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Comments

  • #2
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    IMO more suited to after hours than motors ...hence moved there


  • #3
    Shiny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    Not me, I feel sorry for them.

    Would hate to be "competing" with 20 other people(taxi's) for a
    single fare, which is the way it has looked to me the last
    few times I got a Taxi.

    (Bus user btw, hence less angry:), for now)


  • #4
    CreepingDeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Blocking them in would be illegal.

    But... sticking out your arm randomly to hail them and then walking off would be perfectly legal. :pac::pac::pac:

    We could have a "fake hail a taxi protest day".

    As well as refusing to tip them.


  • #5
    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    CreepingDeath wrote: »
    Blocking them in would be illegal.

    So is blocking a public road.....


  • #6
    Hail 2 Da Chimp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    Or ring them up and send them to your neighbours house, when they arrive - ring them back up and explain that this is being done as a form of protest. Sit back and watch them beat up your neighbour!

    2 birds with 1 stone!


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  • #7
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    peasant wrote: »
    IMO more suited to after hours than motors ...hence moved there

    Gee....

    thanks....


  • #8
    javaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    dr.sucks.bollocko wrote: »
    Gee

    Willy :pac:


  • #9
    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    Shiny wrote: »
    Not me, I feel sorry for them.

    Would hate to be "competing" with 20 other people(taxi's) for a
    single fare, which is the way it has looked to me the last
    few times I got a Taxi.

    (Bus user btw, hence less angry:), for now)

    Ok, you took the right approach to becoming a taxi driver, you researched. The people that didn't are now, to put it bluntly, holding everyone trying to get in to and carry out their own work to ransom. "Give us what we want or we will stop traffic". I remember the one around 1992-ish. Go slow drive all the way into the city centre, guess what the wanted then, regulation.....Hmmm.

    If you read the response from "Taxis for Change" you will see that they do not give a flying f*** about anyone else but themselves. Infact the even advise illegal action ;)


  • #10
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    javaboy wrote: »
    Willy :pac:

    I'll just drop this here.


  • #11
    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    dr.sucks.bollocko wrote: »
    I'll just drop this here.

    Ok this is going to go waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy off topic...:D


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  • #12
    Lu Tze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    Shiny wrote: »
    Not me, I feel sorry for them.

    Would hate to be "competing" with 20 other people(taxi's) for a
    single fare, which is the way it has looked to me the last
    few times I got a Taxi.

    (Bus user btw, hence less angry:), for now)

    Last time i was out and missed the last luas on a saturday, i was waiting in the queue for a taxi for two hours. If some of the drivers went and worked at the busiest period of the week instead of during the middle of the day when everybody is at work then i am sure they would make a more than decent hourly rate


  • #13
    Hail 2 Da Chimp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    dr.sucks.bollocko wrote: »
    Gee....
    .

    Post reported!

    Also I find your name offensive, so I've reported all of your other posts!!!


  • #14
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »
    Post reported!

    Also I find your name offensive, so I've reported all of your other posts!!!

    PM CulT. It's his fault.
    Join the fight to get my name back.


  • #15
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    javaboy wrote: »
    Willy :pac:

    probably not...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #16
    Shiny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    OldmanMondeo wrote: »
    Ok, you took the right approach to becoming a taxi driver, you researched. The people that didn't are now, to put it bluntly, holding everyone trying to get in to and carry out their own work to ransom. "Give us what we want or we will stop traffic". I remember the one around 1992-ish. Go slow drive all the way into the city centre, guess what the wanted then, regulation.....Hmmm.

    If you read the response from "Taxis for Change" you will see that they do not give a flying f*** about anyone else but themselves. Infact the even advise illegal action ;)

    Although I feel sorry for them, I don't actually know what their protest
    can actually achieve....?

    "Remove" 10,000 taxi's from the system?


  • #17
    Degsy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    To those moaning about no taxis at night..dont give them your money..take the nitelink.


  • #18
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Shiny wrote: »
    Not me, I feel sorry for them.

    Would hate to be "competing" with 20 other people(taxi's) for a
    single fare

    You clearly weren't around before deregulation when it was 20 other fares competing for a single taxi.

    I didn't see any of the twats out protesting then.


  • #19
    RATM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭RATM


    Would Ireland be the only country in the world where a private entrepreneur ( i.e. a taxi driver ) can see the sense in going on strike ?

    Applications for new licenses has been dropping month on month for the last while so the market has nearly reached equilibrium. But these tossers don't want equilibrium, they want us queuing at the ranks begging to be dropped home just like the old days. Feck 'em I say.


  • #20
    consultech
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Wont be protesting against them any time soon. I feel sorry for them. They are only trying to put pressure on the greedy shower of fucks in our government to stop taking the piss with their industry, just like half of the people on this board did when protesting the public sector issues recently. It is simple, pure, and unadulterated greed that has them doling out the hundreds of new taxi plates every week.

    Taxis need to be regulated, as it's simply not fair to have guys that have been doing it for 20 years reduced to having no way to earn a living when you have part-timers working their regular jobs all week, then throwing the roof sign on for Friday and Saturday nights.

    Not to mention the majority of foreign national drivers - 50% of which had someone sit the "test" for them, cant speak a word of English, and dont have a fuckin clue where they are going. I have refused to pay three fares in the last 2 months for the above reason. One of which attempted to bring me from Pearse street to Ballsbridge, via Drumcondra. I Shit u not.


  • #21
    Shiny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    stovelid wrote: »
    You clearly weren't around before deregulation when it was 20 other fares competing for a single taxi.

    I didn't see any of the twats out protesting then.

    I wasn't around then and am not justifying that situation one bit.

    I just think it has gone a bit too far in the other direction.


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  • #22
    oisindoyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Its a protest get over it .It is not against the law to protest .120,000 people protested last month and blocked up the city ,wheres the thread on that ?
    At the end of the month there is going to be another huge protest organised by Unions ,will people be argueing against that as well ? or is it only when taxi drivers protest ,


  • #23
    DonJose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭DonJose


    I'd support a taxi driver silent protest :D


  • #24
    Shiny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    oisindoyle wrote: »
    .......120,000 people protested last month and blocked up the city ,wheres the thread on that ?.......

    Seriously?


  • #25
    blackbox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭blackbox


    consultech wrote: »
    Wont be protesting against them any time soon. I feel sorry for them. They are only trying to put pressure on the greedy shower of fucks in our government to stop taking the piss with their industry, just like half of the people on this board did when protesting the public sector issues recently. It is simple, pure, and unadulterated greed that has them doling out the hundreds of new taxi plates every week.

    Taxis need to be regulated, as it's simply not fair to have guys that have been doing it for 20 years reduced to having no way to earn a living when you have part-timers working their regular jobs all week, then throwing the roof sign on for Friday and Saturday nights.

    Not to mention the majority of foreign national drivers - 50% of which had someone sit the "test" for them, cant speak a word of English, and dont have a fuckin clue where they are going. I have refused to pay three fares in the last 2 months for the above reason. One of which attempted to bring me from Pearse street to Ballsbridge, via Drumcondra. I Shit u not.

    Getting someone else to sit the test is a separate issue - it is due to failure of the regulation system rather than absence of the total number being regulated.

    What about plumbers and electricians - should there be regulations controlling how many people can work in these trades? What about shopkeepers and farmers?


  • #26
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Shiny wrote: »
    I wasn't around then and am not justifying that situation one bit.

    I just think it has gone a bit too far in the other direction.

    The protests are just the continuing death-rattle of the taxi monopoly.

    Before deregulation, they were operating within a ludicrous monopoly where they could pick and choose fares while punters were freezing on the streets and having to walk halfway home. It was such a beano that they were willing to punt the price of a (then) average mortgage on a taxi plate.

    I have a ton of sympathy for any worker who is worried and feeling the pinch - I happen to be one of them myself, but I'm not about to go and protest that a vital public service be constricted just to satisfy the labour interests of a taxi union.

    I would like to see some kind of mandatory training and city 'knowledge' (like London) for drivers though.


  • #27
    jim o doom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    consultech wrote: »
    Wont be protesting against them any time soon. I feel sorry for them. They are only trying to put pressure on the greedy shower of fucks in our government to stop taking the piss with their industry, just like half of the people on this board did when protesting the public sector issues recently. It is simple, pure, and unadulterated greed that has them doling out the hundreds of new taxi plates every week.

    Taxis need to be regulated, as it's simply not fair to have guys that have been doing it for 20 years reduced to having no way to earn a living when you have part-timers working their regular jobs all week, then throwing the roof sign on for Friday and Saturday nights.

    Not to mention the majority of foreign national drivers - 50% of which had someone sit the "test" for them, cant speak a word of English, and dont have a fuckin clue where they are going. I have refused to pay three fares in the last 2 months for the above reason. One of which attempted to bring me from Pearse street to Ballsbridge, via Drumcondra. I Shit u not.

    hmm. at the start I thought you were just being straight there - but the racist rant at the end makes me think you are a taxi driver. every white driven taxi Ive been in recently has had a racist rant remarkably similar to what you just posted in fact.

    And yet I get taxis driven by white dudes, black dudes or chinese dudes and they ALL manage to get me home ok, regardless of race.
    A friend got driven to deepest darkest tallaght by a chinese man who got him directly to his front door with no directions needed other than the address.

    All this BS about foreign drivers being unable to get you where you need to be is a pile of racist CRAP and anyone who listens to it or believes it - or especially who espouses it should really take a long look hard deep inside and realise what a bitter twisted indiviual they must be to feel that way about people - just because they are foreign.


  • #28
    Volvoboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    jim o doom wrote: »
    hmm. at the start I thought you were just being straight there - but the racist rant at the end makes me think you are a taxi driver. every white driven taxi Ive been in recently has had a racist rant remarkably similar to what you just posted in fact.

    And yet I get taxis driven by white dudes, black dudes or chinese dudes and they ALL manage to get me home ok, regardless of race.
    A friend got driven to deepest darkest tallaght by a chinese man who got him directly to his front door with no directions needed other than the address.

    All this BS about foreign drivers being unable to get you where you need to be is a pile of racist CRAP and anyone who listens to it or believes it - or especially who espouses it should really take a long look hard deep inside and realise what a bitter twisted indiviual they must be to feel that way about people - just because they are foreign.


    I agree with ya there, it lets down the side.

    Dosent matter if your black white chinese, you could get into a bogey white taxi persons taxi just as you would a forigners taxi.

    Race and creed dosent come into it.


  • #29
    Hail 2 Da Chimp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    jim o doom wrote: »
    All this BS about foreign drivers being unable to get you where you need to be is a pile of racist CRAP and anyone who listens to it or believes it - or especially who espouses it should really take a long look hard deep inside and realise what a bitter twisted indiviual they must be to feel that way about people - just because they are foreign.

    I have to say, it has happened to me too. Got into a taxi - African lad driving it, I asked him to drop me off at a well known pub / street. I don't know my way around town that well or the traffic system but it took him a good 5 minutes of driving before he admitted he didn't know where the pub was.
    After I rang my mates and got directions I realised this guy was going in the wrong direction altogether.
    I don't consider myself racist, it's just a fact. These guys don't know where they're going and will expect full payment when / if they get there.

    This has happened on at least 2 occasions BTW...

    Edit: Just to point out, it could as easily been an Irish guy trying to rip me off, just replying to show that it's not just a rumor spread by racist / bitter taxi drivers...


  • #30
    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,008 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    Just to try and keep on topic, this is about the protests and the service that is or is not provided. As volvoboy points out this is not about race or creed or any personal issues people have with Taxi drivers.


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  • #31
    jim o doom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »
    This has happened on at least 2 occasions BTW...

    so something happening on 2 occasions constitutes a fact and also means all foreign drivers don't know their way around ??? I think you mean "in your own very limited personal experience of foreign drivers, they have not known where to go"..

    Personally - I've NEVER once been lead in a wrong direction by a foreign driver - they like the Irish drivers always get me where I am going.. so my own personal experience is the polar opposite of yours.
    this should mean clearly that you can't possibly state they don't know where theyre going - just because you have had bad luck 2 or 3 times - don't tar them all with the same racist brush.

    I always get in to a taxi regardless of the race of the driver - he probably has a family to feed the same as anyone else.


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