BSG 2003 S4E19: "Daybreak,Part 1" SPOILERS

MisterAnarchy · 14-03-2009 02:57AM #1

The final chapters of "Battlestar Galactica" are at hand.
"Daybreak, Part 1", is the first part of the series’ two-week/three-hour series finale.

Synopsis: With Galactica on the verge of falling apart, Admiral Adama readies the ship for what could be its final mission, as Baltar’s Six warns that humanity’s final chapter is near.

Overheal · 14-03-2009 04:24AM

! I missed it 2 weeks in a row! :eek:

I blame this cool new fcuking desk I got - has me away from the TV, doing stuffs. Grr!

edit: caught up now - my, we're all set up for an explosive finale now arent we?

Sherifu · 14-03-2009 12:08PM

It did a good job of setting up next week.

Leprachaun · 14-03-2009 12:42PM

Was pretty good and yeah it did a good job of setting up parts 2 and 3 of the finale. I really thought Baltar was going to volunteer though.

Sherifu · 14-03-2009 01:14PM

Leprachaun wrote: »

I really thought Baltar was going to volunteer though.

Thought so too. He may still at the last minute...

Volvagia · 14-03-2009 02:21PM

I loved it! One more week then its all over. Flashback scenes were great. I'm wondering about the guy Bill was talking to at the start, was he informing bill that the galactica was going to be decommissioned maybe?

And I always thought Baltar was lying the whole time he was talking about his working class upbringing. (Really thought he was going to volunteer to help Caprica 6.

bazz26 · 14-03-2009 03:00PM

Good build up episode indeed.

Some of the flashbacks were a bit bizzare, thought I was watching an episode of Beverly Hills 90210 for a second. :eek:

Thought Baltar's old man was brillant, reminded me of Steptoe and Son.

The Corinthian · 14-03-2009 04:46PM

Volvagia wrote: »

I loved it! One more week then its all over. Flashback scenes were great. I'm wondering about the guy Bill was talking to at the start, was he informing bill that the galactica was going to be decommissioned maybe?

My guess is that Adama was being told that he needed to go through some medical procedure or he would die. Naturally he never did, has secretly realised he's terminal and goes on a suicide mission, thus fulfilling the prophecy of the dying leader never getting to the promised land, that we were led to believe was Roslin, all along.

And I always thought Baltar was lying the whole time he was talking about his working class upbringing. (Really thought he was going to volunteer to help Caprica 6.

Baltar is going to make an ultimate sacrifice, at a critical, last, moment, so as to redeem his character - all very Tale of Two Cities, to the point of cliché, TBH.

bobbbb · 14-03-2009 05:43PM

They must be leaving all the good stuf til the last 2 episodes, because they sure as hell havent been including it in the last few episodes including this one. Marginally better than the last few weeks but still crap.

What a nosedive for a previously good show.

Vokes · 14-03-2009 05:46PM

The Corinthian wrote: »

My guess is that Adama was being told that he needed to go through some medical procedure or he would die. Naturally he never did, has secretly realised he's terminal and goes on a suicide mission, thus fulfilling the prophecy of the dying leader never getting to the promised land, that we were led to believe was Roslin, all along.

Baltar is going to make an ultimate sacrifice, at a critical, last, moment, so as to redeem his character - all very Tale of Two Cities, to the point of cliché, TBH.

Good calls on both. Adama's doc prob caught some signs of cancer early on.

That singularity to be the first in aseries of wormholes to the Promised Land mebbe?

degrassinoel · 14-03-2009 08:19PM

Volvagia wrote: »

I loved it! One more week then its all over. Flashback scenes were great. I'm wondering about the guy Bill was talking to at the start, was he informing bill that the galactica was going to be decommissioned maybe?

And I always thought Baltar was lying the whole time he was talking about his working class upbringing. (Really thought he was going to volunteer to help Caprica 6.

i got the impression it was a shrink he was talking to, and yeah i though baltar was going to volunteer too, by the looks of things, it'll be a raptorstrike, there werent to many volunteers at the end, great episode though.

Metacortex · 14-03-2009 08:59PM

I really enjoyed it, but I think they have left too much unanswered at this stage and I'm afraid its going to look sloppy when they try and answer all the questions (if indeed they do) next week.

Anyways, really good episode, im going to cry a river when its over. Loved the scenes with Gaius and his father and Adama at the end in the hanger.

Richard Dower · 14-03-2009 09:01PM

Twas good...BUT, i utterly detest the producers tryna sneek in Caprica...i'm telling you now, we'll get NO answers next week. Wait and see, more Caprica flashbacks settings things up for ther final scenes that confuse the hell outta you, and boom....fade to black, "watch Caprica coming November for all the answers"

Swear to the gods!!

Richard Dower · 14-03-2009 09:02PM

Metacortex wrote: »

I really enjoyed it, but I think they have left too much unanswered at this stage and I'm afraid its going to look sloppy when they try and answer all the questions (if indeed they do) next week.

Anyways, really good episode, im going to cry a river when its over. Loved the scenes with Gaius and his father and Adama at the end in the hanger.

THEY WON'T ANSWER SQUAT :mad:
They'll pull a fast one on fans to get them to watch Caprica!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Metacortex · 14-03-2009 09:03PM

Just remembered something, Did anyone notice at the start when it showed the ships going through the wormhole like thing when the word 'home' came up next to it? Might be interesting.

Metacortex · 14-03-2009 09:04PM

Richard Dower wrote: »

THEY WON'T ANSWER SQUAT :mad:
They'll pull a fast one on fans to get them to watch Caprica!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

The thought had crossed my mind, I will be horribly disappointed if they do try to tie it in with Caprica.

Cina · 14-03-2009 09:22PM

Thought it was quite poor to be honest. The flashbacks seemed needless and even though it was the second last episodes, they were giving more questions than answers.

I've been disappointed, these final episodes have been a huge fall from grace for a previously brilliant show.

ghouldaddy07 · 14-03-2009 09:51PM

Richard Dower wrote: »

THEY WON'T ANSWER SQUAT :mad:
They'll pull a fast one on fans to get them to watch Caprica!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I read in some interview with Ronald D Moore, that their would be no loose ends from this show tied up in caprica.

Not gona judge this episode till next week since its a two parter, I did like the flashbacks though and it was good to see Balter being an arsehole as opposed to relgious Balter.

spooydermot · 14-03-2009 09:53PM

Metacortex wrote: »

Just remembered something, Did anyone notice at the start when it showed the ships going through the wormhole like thing when the word 'home' came up next to it? Might be interesting.

I'm not 100% sure - but I think that has appeared before, and was changed from 'Earth' to 'Home' after they discovered Earth was uninhabitable.

5uspect · 14-03-2009 10:09PM

That's a scene from the pilot where the Fleet resupplied at a derelict supply base on a nebula and were attacked by the Cylons on the way out.

Biggins · 14-03-2009 10:41PM

Richard Dower wrote: »

Twas good...BUT, i utterly detest the producers tryna sneek in Caprica...i'm telling you now, we'll get NO answers next week. Wait and see, more Caprica flashbacks settings things up for ther final scenes that confuse the hell outta you, and boom....fade to black, "watch Caprica coming November for all the answers"

Swear to the gods!!

Yep, I agree.

I suspect they will NOT answer all the questions that we are looking for answers to.

Between Caprica the series and the film too for release, they will keep the already watching viewers coming back for more or at least try to.
Between an already built up base of viewers (from BSG) and possibly newer ones when the new series starts, they will have a ready made semblance of viewers seeking answers and/or looking to view a new series (not many new series can say that).
Seems like a good way to start off a new series.
What's that phrase that so often said... "leave them wanting more!" That's sticking in my mind as well.

Back to this episode. I thought it was average to be honest. Good but not great. If there is going to be answers given - looks like some of them are going to come thick and fast given the time we have to catch them all.
(Not two full hour episodes - two hours that normally have at least three advert breaks for each hour - so 18 minutes approx' cut out already from a "two hour episode" already?)
I'll prob' be doing a repeat viewing to be able to get all the answers, in case I failed to grasp one!

What I don't expect, is answers to ALL the questions.

DeepBlue · 14-03-2009 10:42PM

Volvagia wrote: »

I loved it! One more week then its all over. Flashback scenes were great. I'm wondering about the guy Bill was talking to at the start, was he informing bill that the galactica was going to be decommissioned maybe?

Well, in the miniseries the Galactica was about to turned into a museum and was already a pretty old ship. I imagine being commander of a battlestar that was about to be decomissioned would mean that Adama wasn't high up on the chain of command and it would probably have been a pretty crap assignment. Quite probably most of the high flyer commanders would be in charge of larger, more up-to-date battlestars like the Pegasus.

It sounded to me that he was being told that his next commission after Galactic was equally crappy and signalled that his career was pretty much over and he was protesting that assignment.

Overall I thought it was an improvement on recent episodes. I'd be wary about introducing new storylines in the penultimate episode as it would indicate that there won't be much room to tie up existing questions in the final episode. However I did like the flashbacks even though Roslin's one seemed a tad random.

The finale could go either way - it could be crap or it could be excellent. Here's hoping for the latter

.

mrak · 14-03-2009 11:31PM

The last few weeks were well below par but this is a return to form. At last there's a sense of direction again and a reduction in the god-stuff and we're heading towards a viper fight. Predictable but needed. The flashbacks are also needed to to add some more material to mix things up a bit and give some spice and a twist. Most plot lines had been flogged around a bit too much by this stage and we needed something new. Interested in what happens with Zack.. why was Lee chasing that bird.. quite odd!

J-blk · 14-03-2009 11:54PM

Yep, solid enough in setting things up but not an outstanding episode in itself - I thought most of the Caprica flashbacks were a bit odd and other than to give us a glimpse of life on the original Caprica (and nice views of the city), I don't see the point to them.

I also don't expect a lot of things to be answered by the very end but it better not be a raptor strike on the colony - I want to see the Galactica go out in a blaze of glory, not reduced to spare parts...

Orizio · 15-03-2009 01:04AM

Why do the ignorant hicks in this program have to have Irish accents?

Jim · 15-03-2009 01:29AM

Orizio wrote: »

Why do the ignorant hicks in this program have to have Irish accents?

Heh, I especially loved the way Baltar changed his accent to English because he was ashamed of his natural Irish one.

Regarding Adama's interview it sounds like its to do with him being the one who has to decommission Gallactica. After he starts going on about how much he's done the other guy says "Its one hour of your day. There are somethings you gotta do".

The only thing is if that's the case why was he wearing a suit rather than his military uniform? Odd.

I don't think the scenes on Caprica were strange. Its the end of the show, the end of an era. They were just giving us a glimpse at how it all began. I think its a build up to the next TV feature length The Plan.

I doubt they'll leave anything, or much unexplained at the end (not anything important anyway). A couple of things might be left to be explained in The Plan, but with regards to Caprica I think its a total spinoff with nothing really to do with the main story line of BSG.

Talisman · 15-03-2009 01:39AM

It's hard to judge given that this is part 1 of 3 parts and we have to wait a week for the other 2 parts.

In the last few episodes, the story has been character driven - to me it would seem that the writers have chosen the route based on what Ronald D Moore said about the Sopranos finale and Edward James Olmos comment that at the end of the series "we end up with almost nothing". Tricia Helfer and Katee Sackhoff also made comments in interviews about the finale being a WTF ending.

The almost Lost like flashbacks it would seem are showing us where the main characters of the show have come from. I'm guessing that the WTF bit is do you judge the show based on where/how it ends or the journey it took you on since the mini series began in 2003? If you're going to judge it based on the ending then prepare to be disappointed.

The Opera House vision ends with Caprica (Cylon) and Baltar (Human) taking Hera (the symbol of their union). That's exactly what the final mission of the Galactica is and was in a Hera dream/vision in a recent episode, if I remember correctly she was sitting on the tactical display board and dropped a Galactica model on top of two Basestars - if they hook Anders up to the FTL drive he'll jump them exactly to where they need to.

Vokes · 15-03-2009 01:40AM

Jim wrote: »

Heh, I especially loved the way Baltar changed his accent to English because he was ashamed of his natural Irish one.

Eh...its clearly a Yorkshire accent, not Irish!

Orizio · 15-03-2009 01:46AM

Vokes wrote: »

Eh...its clearly a Yorkshire accent, not Irish!

Baltar's father's accent was very much Irish.

Was I the only one geniunely offended?

Overheal · 15-03-2009 01:46AM

Leprachaun wrote: »

Was pretty good and yeah it did a good job of setting up parts 2 and 3 of the finale. I really thought Baltar was going to volunteer though.

Expect him to do something unexpected in the finale. Unexpected and sacrificial. Oh how typical

Goodshape · 15-03-2009 02:22AM

Now that was a good character episode

5/5 - can't wait for next week.

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