Should RTE axe Tubridy and Gerry Ryan?

hurdehur · 09-03-2009 01:23AM

Feathers wrote: »

That's where RTÉ made the mistake in the first place - if you're going to pay someone a huge amount based purely on ad revenue, why not link the amount they earn to the amount brought in?

It's the exact same situation as the NTR & the M50 - the government claim that they didn't realise how many cars would pass through & so how much the contract was actually worth - surely it should have been 'til you make X amount or X number of years, whichever comes first'?

With Tubridy et al - RTÉ should have them doing the most menial job that their contract allows - out collecting the coffee or something. Like football managers when a player refuses to be transferred- have them 'on the bench' - no air time at all. & tell them that their contracts won't be renewed by RTÉ when lapsed & let them see how popular they'd be with BBC etc, in 5 years time without any publicity behind them.

Ah, someone got there before me! Definitely, definitely agree with this suggestion. Put G Ryan working in the canteen or cleaning the offices. Maybe give him a blog on the RTE website if needs be to fullfil his contract. That'll teach the unpatriotic, arrogant, bad-example-giving, greedy, selfish git. You just know most people in the country would only be too delighted to have that smug attitude taken down a peg or two with the state the country's in. Egg and chips, please, Gerry. Do I get a free coffee with that? HA!

deadhead13 · 09-03-2009 01:38AM

Terry wrote: »

Whether or not you have the morals to take a pay cut to save jobs is an entirely different story.

Yes, but its the story of this thread

Karlusss · 09-03-2009 01:56AM

The argument is that Gerry Ryan makes so much money for RTE that he deserves his pay. It's not fair to tie him to lower-paid workers in RTE, because if he wasn't there at all, RTE would clearly lose money rather than save it.

deadhead13 · 09-03-2009 02:04AM

Karlusss wrote: »

The argument is that Gerry Ryan makes so much money for RTE that he deserves his pay. It's not fair to tie him to lower-paid workers in RTE, because if he wasn't there at all, RTE would clearly lose money rather than save it.

The fact is, the revenue for his show is down 35%, by that logic so should his salary

If he was no longer there, whose to say his replacement won't maintain or even increase listernership and revenue. And you would have the added bonus of paying them far less.

Capt'n Midnight · 09-03-2009 02:15AM

deadhead13 wrote: »

The fact is, the revenue for his show is down 35%, by that logic so should his salary

If he was no longer there, whose to say his replacement won't maintain or even increase listernership and revenue. And you would have the added bonus of paying them far less.

Oh no, not 35%

If revenue is down 35% you still have to pay fixed costs and overheads so the amount you can give to the muppets is down by a lot more than 35%

deadhead13 · 09-03-2009 02:18AM

I agree - but I doubt "the muppets" would.

anonymous_joe · 09-03-2009 02:54AM

It's not just linked to how much he brings in - supply and demand is crucial too.

Gerry Ryan for better or worse (worse imo) is one of the most successful radio dj types in this country. He's always going to get listeners. Always. That's why he's paid a fortune, because if RTE don't pay him a fortune, then someone else will.

His contract was signed long before any fiscal trouble was anticipated, and he's totally within his rights to want his contract honoured. That might not be noble of him, but it's certainly not illegal or immoral.

phasers · 09-03-2009 07:34AM

JUST DON'T WATCH OR LISTEN TO THEM

fatboypee · 09-03-2009 10:38AM

phasers wrote: »

JUST DON'T WATCH OR LISTEN TO THEM

Errrm, isn't it the point that our licence fee is PAYING for them ? Ergo, if they're reeely reeeely crap, why can't we REPLACE them rather than just turning them off ??

FBP.

Dennis the Stone · 09-03-2009 11:29AM

anonymous_joe wrote: »

That's why he's paid a fortune, because if RTE don't pay him a fortune, then someone else will.

I don't buy that though. I doubt Today FM or Newstalk could afford to pay him what he is earning now. Or TV3 for that matter. Furthermore, there's no chance of him heading to British radio; Gerry Ryan/Chris Moyles types are ten a penny over there

Degsy · 09-03-2009 11:41AM

Tago Mago wrote: »

I don't buy that though. I doubt Today FM or Newstalk could afford to pay him what he is earning now. Or TV3 for that matter. Furthermore, there's no chance of him heading to British radio; Gerry Ryan/Chris Moyles types are ten a penny over there

They're ten a penny over here too..its just RTE is determined to flog the same tiny "talent" pool to death for decades.

Raiser · 09-03-2009 11:46AM

Ryan Tubridy was heinously horrified on Friday morn last when his chamber calm was deviously defiled by a wandering wench - see below (quote is from here)

Irish independent wrote:

The pressure on Tubridy to accept a reduction in his pay reached fever pitch last Friday morning, when a reporter from RTE's Morning Ireland programme arrived into his radio studio in an attempt to interview him on the matter as he prepared to go on air.

Mr Tubridy is understood to have been taken completely by surprise by reporter Eleanor Burnhill's approach to him just after 8.35am.

Sources at the station said that Mr Tubridy politely refused to answer Ms Burnhill's questions, while staff on his show ushered her from the studio.

It is understood, however, that the presenter was appalled to find himself confronted while he was engaged in preparations for his show, which was due to go on air within the following 25 minutes.

It is understood the presenter lodged an official complaint, which RTE Director General Cathal Goan will consider.

- Surprisingly his convenient legal problems somehow unbelievably evaporated the next day and he indicated he'd love a pay-cut.

This analyst has concluded that although the revulsion of the Country was unimportant to R. Tubs - when faced with the disrespect and abhorrence of his peers he immediately crumbled.

Eleanor Burnhill - if your rompability is on par with your journalistical prowess then you are welcome to PM me

[Interestingly a google image search on Eleanor gives you either a Mulhall sister or a Holly Golightly lookalike which is as worrying as it is confusing - just who is this new Heroine of the people???]

- RTE Chiefs are today planning to provoke a similar crumbling today by goading Gee Ryan with a size 13 Italian calf leather slip-on shoe filled with duck paté and topped with whipped double cream.

BnA · 09-03-2009 12:20PM

RE Tubridy
I would say keep him there. Maybe I am nieve, but I believe him. He is possibly tied into contracts of his own with management companies or the like that he had to look into first. He never refused to take a cut, he just said that he needed to consider it. Either way, he has now agreed to take a cut. Maybe I am being easier on him because I actually like him. I wouldn't watch his TV show much because I'm not really into that Z List Celibrity Chat Show type thing, But I would listen to some or all of his Radio Show most mornings and I do enjoy it. He has a good way with people and is good to get the best out of them in an interview.

RE Gerry Ryan
AXE HIM AXE HIM AXE HIM AXE HIM

CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP

I DETEST HIM. The very sight of his smug blubbery head makes me sick. His Radio Show is simply appaling. It is lazily slapped together with pretty much zero content. If you ever try listening to him. He ususally manages to get to about 10 o clock every morning, lazily idling through the papers, playing one or two crappy records and generally farting his own opinion out over the airwaves. In the same time over on Radio one, Tubridy will have gone through at least 2 different guests. I know it is a primetime slot but Gerry Ryan slipped into the comfort zone with it about 10 years ago and he has only been barely punching it in since. Someone in RTE needs to take the brave decision to Axe him and put in some fresh talent there.

TEDDYBEAR90 · 09-03-2009 12:22PM

Well what i think is really odd is the difference in salaries between these presenters? shouldnt they be on similar salaries?
And someone said here that the researchers only get 50,000 euro and presenter GR gets 500,000? seems a bit strange that the researchers salary is nowhere in the region of the main presenter.??? and the researcher does a lot of the hard work. why don't they have someone to regulate salaries of these media types. there should be a special board like the taxi regulators to make sure that they are paid equally and fairly!

Agamemnon · 09-03-2009 12:44PM

I would love to see Gerry Ryan quit RTE in a fit of pique and try his luck with the BBC. I can picture him waddling into an interview and launching into a pompous spiel about how wonderful he is, how he's the best thing to happen to radio since Marconi and how he deserves to be paid even more than he was in Ireland.

This would be followed by a good forty minutes of the interviewers roaring laughter into his pudgy, bewildered face before showing him the door. Might make a good reality tv show, "The Fall Of Gerry Ryan". What d'ya reckon, RTE? I'll host it for half of Ryan's salary.

thelordofcheese · 09-03-2009 12:57PM

I don't know how anyone can say that gerry ryan or ryan tubridy aren't entertaining.

Their antics have spawned 166 posts of the most comically inept attempts at outrage i've ever witnessed.

Frankly, they're worth every penny just for the way people have tried to cram as much abuse about Ryans physical appearance into their posts as possible.

Let it never be said that AH is petty when it comes to complaining about people.

Tim Robbins · 09-03-2009 01:01PM

There's no way anyone in RTE should be getting more than 100K as if RTE they'd find it very hard to get that.

At best they'd get work as a senior journalist in a paper which would be about that salary. I see no reason why they should get anymore.

Kork Boy · 09-03-2009 01:06PM

I don't like either but don't think they should be axed, the fact is that quite alot of people like them for some reason. That said I agree that they are paid far too much.

Biggins · 09-03-2009 01:07PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

I don't know how anyone can say that gerry ryan or ryan tubridy aren't entertaining.

Their antics have spawned 166 posts of the most comically inept attempts at outrage i've ever witnessed.

Frankly, they're worth every penny just for the way people have tried to cram as much abuse about Ryans physical appearance into their posts as possible.

Let it never be said that AH is petty when it comes to complaining about people.

Correction - the posts might be entertaining but that don't make the overpaid egotistical twats so!
(There's no direct relationship connecting from one to the other and/or having influence to either)

You might have great TV to look at but that don't make those displayed on it, any better or worse.
How they are judged is by their own actions, words and attitudes that comes across the screen and airwaves!

upmeath · 09-03-2009 01:13PM

Should RTE axe Tubridy and Gerry Ryan? No.

Should RTE axe Gerry Ryan? Yes. To quote the man who stormed onto the set of the Late Late Show and heckled Pat Kenny "he's an inthufferable arthhole"

Should RTE axe Tubridy? No. He's about the only young, hip and entertaining presenter they have.

Quint · 09-03-2009 01:13PM

But how can poor G-ryan afford his lifestyle if he takes a paycut?
From his book review in the indo:

"My canteen is the restaurant of the Four Seasons Hotel," he writes in a chapter headed Fine Dining. "I have all my meetings in that restaurant. I know Louis Walsh does the same thing."

Shortly after that, he is talking about wine: "I think Irish people still need to wake up to the joys of sommeliers... My favourite sommelier was Pascal in Dromoland."

Or here's Gerry in a chapter called The Front of the Plane: "I go first class with Aer Lingus to JFK.

"There's a big seat, everyone's attentive and nice," he goes on. "I have a few drinks, and when I'm with my family, I see them enjoying the fruits of my labour .... Then we get to New York and there's a limousine waiting to take us to Manhattan.

"We check into Fitzpatrick's and go upstairs to one of the suites, or as we did last year, to the penthouse ... And the path is always greased. Maybe U2 are playing in Giants Stadium, and the backstage passes will be waiting for us in the Rockefeller ....

"I defy anyone to say that's not a good way to travel."

And there's more, much more, of this sort of tedious, self-admiring guff. "My favourite tipple is Jameson twelve-year-old. I like Gold Reserve ... "

Yes, indeed, Gerry loves the finer things in life: "These days, Paris for me is staying at the Hotel Meurice up at the Jardins des Tuileries.

"You can't even get in there unless you've got a grand in your sock..." And he goes on to tell us a story about how he ordered a €2,000 Petrus thinking it was a €200 bottle.

thelordofcheese · 09-03-2009 01:22PM

Biggins wrote: »

Correction - the posts might be entertaining but that don't make the overpaid egotistical twats so!

Without Ryan and Tubridy you'd have nothing to bitch about, therefore i'd have nothing to laugh at.

They are essentially well payed trolls (especially ryan) and if they rankle you so badly you should probably stop feeding them.

Degsy · 09-03-2009 01:24PM

Quint wrote: »

But how can poor G-ryan afford his lifestyle if he takes a paycut?
From his book review in the indo:

Here's the whole review..the fat slug.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/books/how-gerry-ryan-turned-into-mr-smug-1499629.html

javaboy · 09-03-2009 01:26PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

They are essentially well payed trolls (especially ryan) and if they rankle you so badly you should probably stop feeding them.

That's exactly what Gerry Ryan is. Which makes it even funnier when people get so wound up about him. I mean how could you read that passage about his travel and eating habits without realising he's trolling?

Degsy · 09-03-2009 01:37PM

javaboy wrote: »

That's exactly what Gerry Ryan is. Which makes it even funnier when people get so wound up about him. I mean how could you read that passage about his travel and eating habits without realising he's trolling?

There's no such thing as trolling in the "real world"..its an internet forum expression that doesnt translate anywhere else.
What he's doing is pontificating.
He actually,genuinley believes that people want to read the minutae of his life and prostrate themselves before his impeccable taste and ample funds.
His arrogance is quite astounding.

09-03-2009 01:41PM

Degsy wrote: »

There's no such thing as trolling in the "real world"..its an internet forum expression that doesnt translate anywhere else.
What he's doing is pontificating.
He actually,genuinley believes that people want to read the minutae of his life and prostrate themselves before his impeccable taste and ample funds.
His arrogance is quite astounding.

Id say his arrogance is quite outstanding !

Biggins · 09-03-2009 01:42PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

They are essentially well payed trolls (especially ryan) and if they rankle you so badly you should probably stop feeding them.

Won't disagree with the first part but if someone can come up with a way to remove part of my licence and the bit in it, I pay in relation to the part that goes to Gerry's wages, I'd gladly stop feeding them.

As long as RTE is grabbing our money, we are all feeding them.
(...and if we feed them, then by god that at least gives us the right to have views on them - or I would have thought anyway!)

javaboy · 09-03-2009 01:42PM

Degsy wrote: »

There's no such thing as trolling in the "real world"..its an internet forum expression that doesnt translate anywhere else.

Well he ticks every single box for being a troll bar the one about being on the internet. So if there was a real life equivalent for a troll, he'd be one. Fair enough?

He actually,genuinley believes that people want to read the minutae of his life and prostrate themselves before his impeccable taste and ample funds.

The only way you could say that for sure is if you were Gerry Ryan.

kinetic · 09-03-2009 01:47PM

They shouldnt axe these two because of their stance on paycuts,they should axe them because they are f.....ng DIRE.The only thing worse that these 2 are the clowns that sit every week in Tubridys tv audience.
Ryans book was a massive flop,does that not tell RTE something?

Axe them now and bring in some new blood not the RTE cronyism that gave tubridy a job.

akaredtop · 09-03-2009 01:51PM

Tubridy is only there because he came out of the correct hole.

Should RTE axe Tubridy and Gerry Ryan?

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