Learn Gaelic

MIN2511 · 04-03-2009 01:46AM #1

Am i mad or what....

I want to learn Gaelic(Irish)...

Serious about this.... I often wonder why most people don't use it

Forgot to mention, classes must be free as too broke to pay for anything

Disease Ridden · 04-03-2009 01:49AM

I'l say it first!

The language more commonly called Irish or the sport of Gaelic Football!?

latenia · 04-03-2009 01:49AM

Lesson 1: The only people who say Gaelic are Americans.

MIN2511 · 04-03-2009 01:56AM

I forgot to mentione i am not Irish

R0ot · 04-03-2009 01:59AM

I wish I had the head for irish, always feel so ashamed not knowing my countrys language =\

Rb · 04-03-2009 02:02AM

Aren't there free lectures/classes in Trinity or UCD?

Pride Fighter · 04-03-2009 02:04AM

MIN2511 wrote: »

Am i mad or what....

I want to learn Gaelic...

Serious about this.... I often wonder why most people don't use it

Forgot to mention, classes must be free as too broke to pay for anything

You are allowed pick the ball up, catch, kick, batter your opponent. Gaelic Football is a great sport. Its easy to learn.

Shaniev · 04-03-2009 02:05AM

MIN2511 wrote: »

Am i mad or what....

I want to learn Gaelic...

Serious about this.... I often wonder why most people don't use it

Forgot to mention, classes must be free as too broke to pay for anything

All you need is a round ball and a side of a house its free. Also you will have a local team that train id say you will have to pay membership in but it should be ok!

Thirdfox · 04-03-2009 02:07AM

R0ot wrote:

I wish I had the head for irish, always feel so ashamed not knowing my countrys language =\

English is an official language of this country.

Adiboo · 04-03-2009 09:24AM

Thirdfox wrote: »

English is an official language of this country.

Unfortunately.

MagicMarker · 04-03-2009 09:29AM

Only gay people speak Irish.

biko · 04-03-2009 09:29AM

Check out the classes in Arus na nGael on Dominic Street

underflowers · 04-03-2009 09:39AM

This might be something to aim towards http://www.teg.ie/index.htm

humanji · 04-03-2009 09:53AM

Why not learn a useful language like French or Klingon?

Wibbs · 04-03-2009 10:34AM

I say fair play to you(and my take on gov spending on the language and the languages itself is clear in the other thread hereabouts). Jeez the "it's not gaelic" types. :rolleyes: Says it all.

acontadino · 04-03-2009 10:49AM

you definetly should.

Gran Hermano · 04-03-2009 11:00AM

http://www.gael-linn.ie/glinn/LearnIrish.aspx

https://cnag.ie/index.php?action=dublin&page=course

Either of the above links should get you the classes you're looking for - not free though.

And Min2511, you're not unusual in wanting to learn Irish. 90% of the people who ask me about language classes in Irish for adults are not Irish.

Bricriu · 04-03-2009 11:27AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Jeez the "it's not gaelic" types. :rolleyes: Says it all.

Well, Wibbs, in fact 'it does say it all' and you can roll your eyes all you like at the bits of reality you don't like.

As a general rule, linguists call the native language of Ireland 'Irish'. It is generally recognised by sociolinguists that people who call it 'Gaelic' usually have an anti-Irish language or anti-Irish agenda, or don't know much about it historically.

As said before here, 'Gaelic' is used for native Irish culture and traditions, and (now) for native sports.

Thirdfox · 04-03-2009 11:46AM

Adiboo wrote: »

Unfortunately.

I'd argue fortunately actually, being a small open economy and all that...

Wibbs · 04-03-2009 11:59AM

Bricriu wrote: »

Well, Wibbs, in fact 'it does say it all' and you can roll your eyes all you like at the bits of reality you don't like.

Reality? Muhahahhah Jesus.:rolleyes:

As a general rule, linguists call the native language of Ireland 'Irish'. It is generally recognised by sociolinguists that people who call it 'Gaelic' usually have an anti-Irish language or anti-Irish agenda, or don't know much about it historically.

As said before here, 'Gaelic' is used for native Irish culture and traditions, and (now) for native sports.

No shít sherlock. But, if for just a moment, people engaged whatever grey matter they possess and looked at the "reality" that a non Irish person wanted to learn the language and not put said person off with narrow minded and frankly stupid responses, they might find that more would try to learn the language.

The OP, a non native Irish person(who for all you know doesn't have English as their first language), comes here looking for help with a genuine interest in learning the language. Cool and fair play. But to be met with somewhat belligerent responses over her semantics, is hardly a good reflection on the respondies, or indeed the attitude to the language.

The well worn chestnut of "I don't mind Christianity, its Christians I take issue with" springs to mind here. I have a similar problem with Irish. It's not the language I have any issue with, more the types of people it can attract and their oft moronic, insular and defensive attitudes. If that is truly a reflection of my culture, it can go take a flying leap.

thelordofcheese · 04-03-2009 12:04PM

MIN2511 wrote: »

Serious about this.... I often wonder why most people don't use it

because it's pretty damn useless. But i suppose it's more useful than whittling away the hours on AH, if only just.

onemorechance · 04-03-2009 12:12PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

because it's pretty damn useless. But i suppose it's more useful than whittling away the hours on AH, if only just.

It is used for communication, therefore it is very useful.

acontadino · 04-03-2009 12:15PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Reality? Muhahahhah Jesus.:rolleyes:

The well worn chestnut of "I don't mind Christianity, its Christians I take issue with" springs to mind here. I have a similar problem with Irish. It's not the language I have any issue with, more the types of people it can attract and their oft moronic, insular and defensive attitudes. If that is truly a reflection of my culture, it can go take a flying leap.

madness. when you see the begrudgery that people have for the language its not really their fault we may be defensive.

Executive Steve · 04-03-2009 12:16PM

Wibbs wrote: »

The well worn chestnut of "I don't mind Christianity, its Christians I take issue with" springs to mind here. I have a similar problem with Irish. It's not the language I have any issue with, more the types of people it can attract and their oft moronic, insular and defensive attitudes. If that is truly a reflection of my culture, it can go take a flying leap.

i thought that too before i started learning it... you're right to say "the sort of people it can attract" but they're still only a small subset of the people it does attract! (fortunately!)

thelordofcheese · 04-03-2009 12:19PM

onemorechance wrote: »

It is used for communication, therefore it is very useful.

With whom?
And more to the point how many people can only communicate via irish.

It's a curiosity, nothing more. Learn it if you want to, just don't expect to find a pratical application for it.

04-03-2009 12:23PM

I have been doing a lot of self teaching of Irish recently, but there are of course huge gaps in my knowledge of gaeilge (book Irish).

Unfortunately, I have found it difficult to stay motivated as there are many who "put down" my attempts to learn as a waste of time.

Don't give up!

There are a couple of links in my sig that may be useful..

Sútalún · 04-03-2009 12:24PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I say fair play to you(and my take on gov spending on the language and the languages itself is clear in the other thread hereabouts). Jeez the "it's not gaelic" types. :rolleyes: Says it all.

But it's nooooot!

Fair play OP, even though they all seem to be hidden away there are a good few resources out there for people wanting to learn Irish.

Executive Steve · 04-03-2009 12:27PM

well i only started learning it after i was offered a slot on an irish language radio station so it was highly practical for me; granted i don't use it much in a social context apart from murmuring sweet nothings to my girlfriend whose fluency far eclipses mine, but i do think that no irish man is a true irish man save that he at least be able to mutter the occasional mystical invocation in highly broken irish...

Thirdfox · 04-03-2009 12:30PM

thelordofcheese wrote: »

With whom?
And more to the point how many people can only communicate via irish.

It's a curiosity, nothing more. Learn it if you want to, just don't expect to find a pratical application for it.

It does help in your application to join the public sector - bonus points for being interviewed in Irish.

Until recently, lawyers had to know Irish before being allowed to practise. University lecturers too. People working in consulates - our ambassadors are all fluent in the language it seems. Though "knowing" Irish is quite different for job requirements than being able to speak it from what I've seen.

May not be a practical "application" but certainly a requirement that some need to be aware of depending on what jobs people have/want to have.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 04-03-2009 12:34PM

Irish is essential for certain jobs here. Who communicates it? Quite a lot, mainly on the west coast. Do you need it to live every day life here? More than you need french or italian here...

stovelid · 04-03-2009 12:39PM

I'm not sure about this. It starts with the language, but before you know it, you're busking and wearing ethnic knitwear. And you end up like Liam O Maonlai.

Learn French or Spanish. Less risky.

Learn Gaelic

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