Error or some kind of Dole fraud?

老大 · 26-02-2009 08:39PM #1

Live on my own at the moment and havnt rented out to any non friends in the past,
but last week got a letter (brown envelope / strip of sticky tape on the back) addressed to a non-national at my address. I didnt open it but it was locally postmarked and reminded me and im almost sure it was from the dole office (as my friend years ago got one and i got one same years ago)

I just put a strike through the name and address and wrote return to sender on it person does not live here, and An Post can look after it. (not sure if its legal to open post myself??)

Again today, get another letter (different name) but you can clearly see through the address label where it says Health Service Executive, and holding it up to the light you can make out supplementary welfare something, but there is a ref number and i can make out an address where it came from.

PArt of me thinks its just an error but is anyone else getting these letters addressed to other people at their homes??
Im deffo going to write to the HSE in case someone is trying to use my address as some kind of fraud or something.

Anyone know who best to report this to ??

thks

Abi · 26-02-2009 08:44PM

Id have taken both to the local social welfare officer. Sounds like a scam to me.

turgon · 26-02-2009 08:51PM

Be a devil. Keep the money, its what the Taoiseach would do

Sharpshooter · 26-02-2009 08:51PM

I agree with Abigayle, get the feckers in trouble.
We can't afford to be carrying anyone now.

Saibh · 26-02-2009 09:02PM

I would ring the HSE instead of writing to them - open the letters.

Gummy Panda · 26-02-2009 09:04PM

one way to solve this OP..

BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!!

老大 · 27-02-2009 11:37PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

one way to solve this OP..

BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!!

haha yeah, good idea ! :P

Ok opened it, and it was indeed from a walfare officer about someones claim for rent relief and supplementary welfare [wont go into detail too much]

Anyway i've wrote to the welfare officer enclosing the letter explaining that the person(s) dont live here and that my address isnt rented out and I didnt want my home to be in some way used to defruad the state :eek:

Case closed... for now :cool:

banshee_bones · 28-02-2009 12:14AM

that sounds seriously scketchy! :eek:

keep us posted!!

ownknee · 28-02-2009 12:25AM

turgon wrote: »

Be a devil. Keep the money, its what the Taoiseach would do

Ha ha ha...
Not sure if this one would get away with that but certainly our previous Taoiseach might have thought about it...

dvpower · 28-02-2009 12:30AM

Its those non nationals ripping off our social welfare system again...

... or maybe just an address mix up.

ownknee · 28-02-2009 01:41AM

dvpower wrote: »

Its those non nationals ripping off our social welfare system again...

... or maybe just an address mix up.

Oh for Gods sake...if I hear another person giving out about non nationals again I might just get sick.
While I have no doubt there are a number of non nationals scamming, I find it very hard to assume they are ALL scamming.
No one batted an eyelid when these non nationals were doing work Irish people didn't want to do when times were good. But now the sh*t has hit the fan the non nationals are to blame for scamming the welfare system.
I worked with non nationals & I have to say they would put us to shame, as much as we hate to hear it, it is actually true.
Also I might add that there are enough Irish people who are scamming the welfare system even when you couldn't turn in the street but you would get hit with a job offer.
Instead of concentrating your energy into discriminating against non nationals, why don't you ask why there isn't someone going around checking out people who are signing on & still working either full time or part time?
And don't tell me it's not happening, it has probably never been as rampant as it is now.

AnonoBoy · 28-02-2009 02:19AM

No no - their scam has worked perfectly.

They used to live at your address and legitimately claimed social welfare. But then they left and moved out of Ireland to another country. And now due to a clerical error, some paper work is still being sent to them at their old address.

What a scam!!!!!

Those geniuses.

Sorry - Those Geniui!!!!!!

You can never compete with these masterminds of welfare fraud. No way, no how!

jhegarty · 28-02-2009 02:41AM

ownknee wrote: »

Oh for Gods sake...if I hear another person

They need to scam sometimes, can't have Swan for dinner every night.

dvpower · 28-02-2009 08:55PM

ownknee wrote: »

Instead of concentrating your energy into discriminating against non nationals ...

I didn't think my post needed the inclusion of a sarcasm tag. Looks like I was wrong.

Abi · 28-02-2009 09:00PM

Here we go again.

/can of worms opened

CreepingDeath · 28-02-2009 09:03PM

Abigayle wrote: »

/can of worms opened

They're eating our worms as well ?

dvpower · 28-02-2009 09:06PM

老大 wrote: »

Live on my own at the moment and havnt rented out to any non friends in the past

Ok OP. So you've established that the people that the letters were addressed to didn't live at your address.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

They used to live at your address ...

OP. You were wrong. They did live at your address. See.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

...and legitimately claimed social welfare.

How do you know this s**t?

AnonoBoy wrote: »

But then they left and moved out of Ireland to another country.

Do you happen to have a forwarding address? Can you give it to the OP to forward on the mail to.

Abi · 28-02-2009 09:08PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

They're eating our worms as well ?

Ye. They use worm meat and various árse burning spices to make their own sausages.

We'll be left with nothing.

tolosenc · 28-02-2009 09:19PM

You don't happen to live at 123 Fake St., do you OP?

Daroxtar · 28-02-2009 10:44PM

ownknee wrote: »

I worked with non nationals & I have to say they would put us to shame, as much as we hate to hear it, it is actually true.

I'm absolutley sick to death of tripe like that. Put us to shame??
No they would not.They might put you to shame but the vast majority i worked with spent most of their time with a phone in one hand and a fag in the other waiting beside a corner so they could spot the foreman coming and pretend they were doing something. Any culchie working on a site would and regularly did in my experience sh1te from a height on them.

They might shame you in attendance rates, turning up every single day, some still out of their minds with drink or drugs. But when their mates all make sure they can get a couple of hours kip in a locked room while they cover for them then i suppose that makes it ok. To hell with health and safety when there's easy money to be made, right?

All i hear is "Oh the molvanians are so much better than us". ARE THEY BOLL O X. Thats submissive defeatism and its pathetic.

To repeat a famous line Where's your fkn pride?

Thank you, end of rant.

Gummy Panda · 28-02-2009 10:48PM

Daroxtar wrote: »

Any culchie working on a site would and regularly did in my experience sh1te from a height on them.

Are you trying to say that culchie builders are better then Dublin builders?

/leaves thread with spoon in hand

Daroxtar · 28-02-2009 10:51PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Are you trying to say that culchie builders are better then Dublin builders?

/leaves thread with spoon in hand

Of course we are. We built dublin. If the dubs hadn't kept slowing us down and robbing our tools we'd never have needed foreigners in the first place.

dvpower · 28-02-2009 11:21PM

Daroxtar wrote: »

Of course we are. We built dublin.

I always suspected that culchies were to blame for the state of the place.

Daroxtar · 28-02-2009 11:49PM

dvpower wrote: »

I always suspected that culchies were to blame for the state of the place.

We might have built the kip but we're not daft enough to live there

dvpower · 01-03-2009 12:37AM

@Daroxtar Location: Meath, but from Sligo
Bit of an immigrant yourself by the look of it.?

Terry · 01-03-2009 12:43AM

dvpower wrote: »

@Daroxtar Location: Meath, but from Sligo
Bit of an immigrant yourself by the look of it.?

Damn Connaught people.
Cromwell should have sent them all to hell.

Daroxtar · 01-03-2009 01:20AM

dvpower wrote: »

@Daroxtar Location: Meath, but from Sligo
Bit of an immigrant yourself by the look of it.?

Damn Connaught people.
Cromwell should have sent them all to hell.

I'm a native migrant. Not a flag waving colonist who missed the boat home circa 1922.

Agent Smith · 01-03-2009 01:43AM

Terry wrote: »

Damn Connaught people.
Cromwell should have sent them all to hell.

wait.... whats Connaught then?

ownknee · 02-03-2009 11:34AM

Daroxtar wrote: »

I'm absolutley sick to death of tripe like that. Put us to shame??
No they would not.They might put you to shame but the vast majority i worked with spent most of their time with a phone in one hand and a fag in the other waiting beside a corner so they could spot the foreman coming and pretend they were doing something. Any culchie working on a site would and regularly did in my experience sh1te from a height on them.

They might shame you in attendance rates, turning up every single day, some still out of their minds with drink or drugs. But when their mates all make sure they can get a couple of hours kip in a locked room while they cover for them then i suppose that makes it ok. To hell with health and safety when there's easy money to be made, right?

All i hear is "Oh the molvanians are so much better than us". ARE THEY
BOLL O X. Thats submissive defeatism and its pathetic.

To repeat a famous line Where's your fkn pride?

Thank you, end of rant.

My pride is very much in tact, thank you for asking. I expressed an opinion, my opinion from my experiences working with nationals & non nationals & what I wrote is not sugar coated for the benefit of my rant, it is indeed true.
While I accept you had a different experience & therefore a different opinion, I don't accept your lack of manners by cursing in YOUR rant. By all means post your opinion but you're only showing your own ignorance by using that kind of language in that context.

Turd Ferguson · 02-03-2009 12:08PM

Wait...what was this thread about again?

AnonoBoy · 02-03-2009 12:19PM

dvpower wrote: »

How do you know this s**t?

Because I am the evil genius immigrant! Muuhhhahaahhaaaa!!!

I was just putting it out there dvpower - most likely explanation really.

Error or some kind of Dole fraud?

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