Professional Soccer versus Club Gaa Team at Gaelic football: who would win??

Orizio · 20-02-2009 05:52PM

chalad07 wrote: »

Techdiver - soccer players are wimps? Come on, say that to John Terry, or Drogba, or Essien!!

Wimp is pretty much the perfect word for Drogba. And I like Essien but their is more then a touch of cowardice about some of his tackles.

chalad07 · 20-02-2009 06:31PM

Orizio wrote: »

Wimp is pretty much the perfect word for Drogba. And I like Essien but their is more then a touch of cowardice about some of his tackles.

Drogba is not a wimp - he dives, and cheats, and bitches and is generally a <snip>, but you have to admit he's as strong as an ox, and can hold people off the ball pretty well.

The Minstrel · 20-02-2009 06:41PM

A good football player is nearly always good at gaelic - same can't be said the other way around. Alot of gaelic, and rugby players, when pressed will admit that they were crap at football. It's a actually quite a common reason when some of them play gaelic.

Orizio · 20-02-2009 07:12PM

The Minstrel wrote: »

A good football player is nearly always good at gaelic - same can't be said the other way around. Alot of gaelic, and rugby players, when pressed will admit that they were crap at football. It's a actually quite a common reason when some of them play gaelic.

Tell that to my local Gaelic Football team, half of whom play club soccer.

Yavvy · 20-02-2009 07:45PM

in relation to the poster that said this was a pointless thread.. I couldnt disagree more. I think its a great conversation and if you only have conversations that can have definitive outcomes (which of course you know before hand) then you have my deepest smypathys.

After a bit more thought Im thinking that an all time Irish soccer squad could take on an intercounty Gaa team. they Might loose but What a match !!

1. Dean Kiely
2. Finnan
3. Packie Bonner
4. Stan
5. John Giles
6. Roy Keane
7. Denis Irwin
8. Niall Quinn
9. Kevin Moran
10. Liam Brady
11. Stephen Hunt
12. John O Shea
13. Frank Stapleton
14. Shay Given ( Thats right )
15. Don Givens

Subs
Paul Mcgrath (perhaps should be in the first team but didnt show up for training)
Noel Hunt
Kenny Cunningham
Gary Kelly
Mark Kinsella
Liam Miller

chalad07 · 20-02-2009 08:03PM

Alany wrote: »

Paul Mcgrath (perhaps should be in the first team but didnt show up for training)

Ha!

smashey · 20-02-2009 11:15PM

Alany wrote: »

14. Shay Given ( Thats right )

Shay played in goals for my club at underage level.

Daysha · 21-02-2009 04:10AM

Orizio wrote: »

Chelsea by a mile. You could teach the 'skills' of Gaelic Football to a chimp in an hour for christ sakes...

Orizio · 21-02-2009 03:19PM

Don't act like you don't agreement with me Deise...:p

ceegee · 21-02-2009 04:06PM

you could throw martin o'neill into that team too. From the north but sure that doesn't really count in a gaa match

UpTheSlashers · 22-02-2009 04:16PM

Soccer team would foul the ball so much eg. clean pick-up, throwing ball, over-carrying. Even with a months training, its just not natural to them
Also physicality, I am well aware that proffessional soccer players are unbelievably fit and strong but would not be comfortable with the tackling etc.
in my opinion, out of all the Senior clubs in Ireland, The Gaa clubs would win 90%, just my opinion!
Also, I would love to see a good GAA-style brawl between Mcmenamin & Co. versus Drogba and the boys

HeLlDoItHeCrAzY · 22-02-2009 07:06PM

id say the soccer boys would be startin a brawl over anything!!... couldnt imagine anelka puttin all his weight into a barrage of jostles on rio ferdinand for a throw in could you!??

HeLlDoItHeCrAzY · 22-02-2009 07:12PM

one jostle and they'd think the gaa lad was startin on him, or tryin to injure him on purpose cause he supports a rival club!!!

Utopia Parkway · 23-02-2009 12:50AM

The GAA team easily. I can't actually believe some people think Chelsea would win after 2 weeks training. For God's sake I've heard it all now. What next? The New York Yankees would beat Kilkenny after 2 weeks hurling training.

Whatever Chelsea learned in 2 weeks would go straight out the door in a match situation with actual opponents in front of them. They would forget the actual rules for a start, they would forget how to tackle, how to solo the ball, etc, etc. All the basics would go straight out the window under pressure. The basics would be completely unnatural to them even after 2 weeks training. Granted they would be very fit but it would be a 60 or 70 minute game of Gaelic football not 90 minutes of soccer so the advantage of being trained to play 90 minutes would be of no use to them.

Orizio · 23-02-2009 01:12AM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The GAA team easily. I can't actually believe some people think Chelsea would win after 2 weeks training. For God's sake I've heard it all now. What next? The New York Yankees would beat Kilkenny after 2 weeks hurling training.

Whatever Chelsea learned in 2 weeks would go straight out the door in a match situation with actual opponents in front of them. They would forget the actual rules for a start, they would forget how to tackle, how to solo the ball, etc, etc. All the basics would go straight out the window under pressure. The basics would be completely unnatural to them even after 2 weeks training. Granted they would be very fit but it would be a 60 or 70 minute game of Gaelic football not 90 minutes of soccer so the advantage of being trained to play 90 minutes would be of no use to them.

Completely different sports now. One highly specialised...one not.

smashey · 23-02-2009 01:16AM

Just a thought here.

While a lot has been made of the soccer team learning the rules, there isn't anything to stop them from playing the game as they would a soccer game. They don't have to pick the ball up and solo it.

shiibata · 23-02-2009 10:30AM

smashey wrote: »

Shay played in goals for my club at underage level.

Would have got plenty practice there for sure:P

Have a video of him playing u-12 gaelic for his local club and he is midfield, well to be honest he played all over the pitch as it was only him and another lad who were any use.
Ye would not think though that scrawny lad though would end up being one of the top goalkeepers in the world

smashey · 23-02-2009 11:07AM

shiibata wrote: »

Would have got plenty practice there for sure:P

Careful now.

shiibata wrote: »

Have a video of him playing u-12 gaelic for his local club and he is midfield, well to be honest he played all over the pitch as it was only him and another lad who were any use.
Ye would not think though that scrawny though lad would end up being one of the top goalkeepers in the world

That team is still the only team from our club to win a county title at any age group. :eek:

HeLlDoItHeCrAzY · 23-02-2009 02:35PM

ha... play soccer on the footall pitch. i think you may keep your thoughts to yourself! I doubt if you were allowed to pick up the ball in the premiership, they would stay playin it along the ground!!

sdevine89 · 23-02-2009 02:41PM

a professional rugby team would definetly win

they would have the bulk,fitness and handling skills required

smashey · 23-02-2009 02:50PM

HeLlDoItHeCrAzY wrote: »

ha... play soccer on the footall pitch. i think you may keep your thoughts to yourself! I doubt if you were allowed to pick up the ball in the premiership, they would stay playin it along the ground!!

Really?

Carpaydiem · 23-02-2009 03:20PM

I cant believe there is even an argument.

Lets take one of my local teams, Erins Isle, or Na Fianna.

They would trounce Chelsea so bad.

Fitness is one thing, playing the sport for years and not being a pansy would easily defeat a pro soccer team.

They would be battered all around the pitch. Any soccer team would (apart from maybe Wimbledon of the late 80's / early 90's lol)

ccosgrave · 23-02-2009 04:23PM

Perhaps it's not the same kind of situation, but I do imagine that a team like Chelsea would struggle to get to grips with the normal rules of Gaelic football and style of play. As an example of this, look at the International Rules matches from 2008, where it was first introduced the idea of having to solo the ball after bouncing it. The Aussies were absolutely dreadful at soloing, they just couldn't do it, and I imagine that had around two weeks to pick up on that kind of skill before the match. In a normal match of Gaelic football, someone soloing like that would get absolutely blown away.

I imagine that the soccer players, having better footwork than the Aussies, might not have as much trouble with it, but I'm just using it as an example of the kind of thing that they might have trouble adapting to.

chalad07 · 23-02-2009 04:52PM

ccosgrave wrote: »

Perhaps it's not the same kind of situation, but I do imagine that a team like Chelsea would struggle to get to grips with the normal rules of Gaelic football and style of play. As an example of this, look at the International Rules matches from 2008, where it was first introduced the idea of having to solo the ball after bouncing it. The Aussies were absolutely dreadful at soloing, they just couldn't do it, and I imagine that had around two weeks to pick up on that kind of skill before the match. In a normal match of Gaelic football, someone soloing like that would get absolutely blown away.

I imagine that the soccer players, having better footwork than the Aussies, might not have as much trouble with it, but I'm just using it as an example of the kind of thing that they might have trouble adapting to.

I dont think that the international rules series will shed much light on this question. Bear in mind that the International rules team was comprised of the top footballers in Ireland - what we're talking about her is just your local run of the mill GAA team,

I think a lot of people are missing this point. We're talking about some of the best sportsmen in the world, up against a bunch lads who only play at a local level, and train maybe a couple of times a week and that you'll be drinking with down the pub on a Friday night,

And to be honest, i dont think the soccer players are wimps and the GAA lads would kick their ass argument holds much sway. The soccer players have all been doing weight training for the entire careers, and while they might not be huge lads, you can bet that they'll be strong. I know 'Big Francie' from down the road is a strong lad, but so is John Terry. The only difference is JT has been doing weights and strength training since he was 16.

Rented Mule · 23-02-2009 06:24PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The GAA team easily. I can't actually believe some people think Chelsea would win after 2 weeks training. For God's sake I've heard it all now. What next? The New York Yankees would beat Kilkenny after 2 weeks hurling training.

Soccer and GAA football actually have something in common, so baseball and hurling is a very poor example.

Two weeks preparation would make things interesting, but Chelsea would come out on top in this one.

Yavvy · 23-02-2009 06:46PM

Ice Hockey superstars could get to grips with hurling within a few months..they play a lot of shinny ( which is street hockey with a slithor like ball) .. there are used to a fast paced game.. they are fast and tough, they catch a hockey puck when its moving at 100Kph (even the out fielders)..Oh jebus .. Im getting excited just thinking about it.

its the future of intl rules. !!

HeLlDoItHeCrAzY · 23-02-2009 10:05PM

Alany wrote: »

Ice Hockey superstars could get to grips with hurling within a few months..they play a lot of shinny ( which is street hockey with a slithor like ball) .. there are used to a fast paced game.. they are fast and tough, they catch a hockey puck when its moving at 100Kph (even the out fielders)..Oh jebus .. Im getting excited just thinking about it.

its the future of intl rules. !!

This already exists... in the form of shinty??!!! and even with compromised rules, and the allowed use of there own special shinty sticks, the 'Scottish' team failed to take down a very very very downgraded kilkenny exibhition team.. if the nation of scotlands finest cant take down a county, what makes you think a hockey player could??? absaloutely ludicrous statement and with this forum im beginnning to think people of ireland have very little respect for their own sport?? whats to say kilkenny wouldnt reverse it and be better than the hockey players att their sport!! show some pride for gods sake, and concede that maybe, just maybe, that we are the best in the world at something other than drinking, complaining, and self hating!

and even so, dont you think the professional field hockey players from the likes of sweden and denmark would be better suited to adapting to hurling?

cruiserweight · 23-02-2009 10:19PM

HeLlDoItHeCrAzY wrote: »

This already exists... in the form of shinty??!!! and even with compromised rules, and the allowed use of there own special shinty sticks, the 'Scottish' team failed to take down a very very very downgraded kilkenny exibhition team.. if the nation of scotlands finest cant take down a county, what makes you think a hockey player could??? absaloutely ludicrous statement and with this forum im beginnning to think people of ireland have very little respect for their own sport?? whats to say kilkenny wouldnt reverse it and be better than the hockey players att their sport!! show some pride for gods sake, and concede that maybe, just maybe, that we are the best in the world at something other than drinking, complaining, and self hating!

Scotland have won the last 4 compromise rules games against Ireland AFAIK Although Ireland have placed restrictions on what players can play. Also there are far more hurling players in Ireland than there are shinty players in Scotland.

HeLlDoItHeCrAzY · 23-02-2009 10:30PM

cruiserweight wrote: »

Scotland have won the last 4 compromise rules games against Ireland AFAIK Although Ireland have placed restrictions on what players can play. Also there are far more hurling players in Ireland than there are shinty players in Scotland.

so obviosly you werent watchin when kk bet them back in october?

Utopia Parkway · 23-02-2009 10:34PM

Rented Mule wrote: »

Soccer and GAA football actually have something in common, so baseball and hurling is a very poor example.

Two weeks preparation would make things interesting, but Chelsea would come out on top in this one.

As I said there must be some very naive people around if they think with 2 weeks training Chelsea would be soloing and handpassing the ball up the pitch and kicking points for fun like they were Peter Canavan or Padraig Joyce. You don't pick up any sport in 2 weeks and be able to beat a team that has been playing it all their lives. Amateur players or not. Sure half the time the Chelsea players would be making technical fouls like hopping the ball twice, swapping hands or taking too many steps. Things you cannot iron out after just 2 weeks. The gaelic team would be getting free after free after free.

Professional Soccer versus Club Gaa Team at Gaelic football: who would win??

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