Get ready for traffic chaos, all out Dublin Bus strike

FlutterinBantam · 18-02-2009 09:45PM

Thats what this is PFB, some union heads trying to make a name for themselves.

Don't worry wiser heads will prevail, it will not happen.

colly10 · 18-02-2009 09:48PM

arse..biscuits wrote: »

I support the bus drivers on this. Fair f**ks to them for standing up

What do ye mean fair ****s to them, it doesn't take guts to stand up, this **** is happening to everyone, thats the way it is
All their doing is ****ing people over, I probably won't keep my job either but im not going to strike about it, its the same for everyone.

They will loose 100m this year if they don't make cuts, what company would accept a loss like that. People are getting the bullet from profitable companies so what would you expect?

My name is Mud · 18-02-2009 11:12PM

colly10 wrote: »

What do ye mean fair ****s to them, it doesn't take guts to stand up, this **** is happening to everyone, thats the way it is
All their doing is ****ing people over, I probably won't keep my job either but im not going to strike about it, its the same for everyone.

They will loose 100m this year if they don't make cuts, what company would accept a loss like that. People are getting the bullet from profitable companies so what would you expect?

Deloitte had a few recommendations on Dublin Bus...

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0126/breaking75.htm

As did the *ahem* Greens

http://www.greenparty.ie/news/latest_news/bus_service_reform_not_cuts_the_way_forward_for_dublin_bus

Personally, I think in recession times public transport should be improved. Its the key to keeping an economy buoyant. Move people around fast and efficiently.

RoundTower · 18-02-2009 11:23PM

Biggins wrote: »

Legally, the drivers would be breaking their employment contract and their subsequent incorporated expected duties.

By sticking with more legal methods, they make their protest.

the guards were able to claim they were "sick" so they could take a few days paid leave make a protest. The bus drivers could all claim "my coin machine is broken" for a day.

pebbles21 · 19-02-2009 12:18AM

Bring in the army and let the cnuts live off their strike pay !

wonder how long it would be then before they come crawling back!

The guy · 19-02-2009 12:20AM

brennaldo wrote: »

this is gona be some pain in the a-hole, i use the bus alot

You're not the only one, I hope it doesn't last long.

bobbiw · 19-02-2009 12:35AM

It makes me sick, people at Waterford crystal get laid off so they dont leave the lobby.

Taxi drivers moaning that there isint enough work.

Now the bus drivers are told that they are going to lay off a few people so they all go on strike.

Who is supposed to keep funding Dublin Bus, the tax payer?,

Well when unemployment is 10-15% there will be no money to pay the dole, so tax increases are certain.

Dublin Bus needs to stand its ground, see how many will be out on strike when they dont get paid for a month. They should be harder and just fire double what they said they would.

they could also say that anyone who strikes will be fired and will not receive any severance.

mikemac · 19-02-2009 12:39AM

Huh, first I read about 3 days of strikes and then tonight I hear "open-ended" which seems to be code for strike until someone backs down.
Make up your mind and communicate clearly!

Someone mentioned strike pay?
Not in a union myself so I don't know what that is

Will the union be supporting all the striking staff, not full wages but a few quid every week?
Because if not and this drags on then who realy can be afford be without pay for weeks & weeks? Some can, many can't!

CreepingDeath · 19-02-2009 01:32AM

Well, at least the bus strike will help the governments target of getting people to use bicycles.

punchdrunk · 19-02-2009 01:40AM

I live in swords,and i don't drive...
how the fcuk will i get to work?

partyatmygaff · 19-02-2009 01:54AM

punchdrunk wrote: »

I live in swords,and i don't drive...
how the fcuk will i get to work?

More likely than not, you aswell as a good few other thousand will not get to work for a few days until you get some form of transport sorted out. so thats another blow to the economy.
All thanks to some bastards in SIPTU :mad:

book smarts · 19-02-2009 02:48AM

Get a bicycle

Dragan · 19-02-2009 10:43AM

I love it. Every bus driver from now till then is being asked "Are you looking forward to the strike? I am. Yeah, i won't have to go to work, because i won't be able to get there. Awesome, right? Rescession on and here are you guys, largely unwilling to face up to the same reality that we all have to, less jobs and less money in the country right now, you may have heard about it, so your solution is to strike and as a result will most likely cost a lot of people there jobs. It must be nice to have a Union that really works solely for your interests as oppossed to accepting the truth and working out early retirement and voluntary redundancies,job share options and stuff like that. You know, the proper way to deal with things to actual benefit this ailing country. Also, when are you gonna jack up the prices again? I mean, we must be due an increase by now...right? Yeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!".

It's all written out on a card i keep in my wallet, so it's not different each time i say it.

Collie D · 19-02-2009 10:53AM

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

I imagine the traffic will flower more freely in Dublin than it has in years as a result of this strike.

Not a hope in hell. I remember the last bus strike in 2000. Left my house in Coolock just after seven to be in work at eight and arrived in city centre at around ten. Mayhem!

The last industrial action the drivers took was only a couple of years ago and instead of going on strike they did just refuse to take fares from the passengers. Why not do that this time around? It makes their point to management without inconveniencing the general public. Can't be bad for garnering public support either.

markpb · 19-02-2009 10:58AM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Well, at least the bus strike will help the governments target of getting people to use bicycles.

Except that they're likely to suspend the bus lanes so everyone can use them which means the cycle lanes will be full of car drivers making it more unsafe than ever.

John Mason · 19-02-2009 11:03AM

Collie D wrote: »

The last industrial action the drivers took was only a couple of years ago and instead of going on strike they did just refuse to take fares from the passengers. Why not do that this time around? It makes their point to management without inconveniencing the general public. Can't be bad for garnering public support either.

because they are just lazy bastards who dont want to work in the first place, this is just an excuse for a extra days off work

markpb · 19-02-2009 11:06AM

pink fluffy bunny wrote: »

because they are just lazy bastards who dont want to work in the first place, this is just an excuse for a extra days off work

That's an idiotic comment. Apart from any support they receive from their union, their strike day will be unpaid.

Rb · 19-02-2009 11:06AM

pink fluffy bunny wrote: »

because they are just lazy bastards who dont want to work in the first place, this is just an excuse for a extra days off work

Exactly.

Contrary to what people would like to believe, buses aren't late due to traffic (their timetables are drawn aligned with the "traffic schedule"), it's because they're lazy f*cks who spent too long reading the paper at the terminal.

Now they're looking for some time off and in the hope that it saves jobs?

F*ck 'em.

Curlypinkie · 19-02-2009 11:18AM

Hold on,
Why all these negative reactions??
What has the recession to do with Dublin bus? At all... AT ALL????
They increased fares, they "invested" in new buses (can anyone see the difference??) and now they're using the r-word as an excuse to keep the very likely high salaries their bosses are being kept with and sack the low paid drivers and reduce an already sh*te route coverage?

It will be difficult for me to get to work but I support them 100%.
If a lot more of Irish people protested when was needed, we wouldn't have the severe economical situation we do at the moment.

People- CAR POOL is a word that's well known in other parts of Europe, I've used it here as well to the confusion of my co-workers at the time. So no, it's not something exotic.

GO Dublin bus drivers!!!

beth-lou · 19-02-2009 11:22AM

Collie D wrote: »

Not a hope in hell. I remember the last bus strike in 2000. Left my house in Coolock just after seven to be in work at eight and arrived in city centre at around ten. Mayhem!

You would have walked that in an hour, or you could have walked to the dart station in Raheny in half an hour.

It will be tough, but if you can, walk or cycle or car pool with your neighbour.

As far as the strike goes, well no one wants to lose their job, but it is an unfortunate reality of the the times we are in. Every industry is suffering, everyone is touched by it in some way. I don't understand why the public sector think that they should be immune while the rest of us get with the programme as uncomfortable as that my be.
In the next few days I am going to hear whether my job is safe or not. Most likely I will go on three day week, at best. My other half is working but is in construction and his job is not secure. This is what most of us are living with. Why should the public sector go untouched? Because the Unions say so. Unions have their place, but sometimes they do more harm than good. And who pays the public sectors wages? We do with our taxes. Less people working means less tax revenue, which means less money to pay public sector workers and more people becoming dependent on the state.

The public sector have to take a hit as well. We all do, until someone has a brainwave and can pull usout of this **** storm. It's time to get real and get with the programme.

Noopti · 19-02-2009 11:26AM

Curlypinkie wrote: »

People- CAR POOL is a word that's well known in other parts of Europe, I've used it here as well to the confusion of my co-workers at the time. So no, it's not something exotic.

GO Dublin bus drivers!!!

Many many many Dublin City Centre office blocks have very limited cars spaces, our office has 6 I think for any office of 60 people. So car pooling, while possible for some offices....isn't for a lot of others.

Slow Motion · 19-02-2009 11:38AM

Curlypinkie wrote: »

Hold on,
Why all these negative reactions??
What has the recession to do with Dublin bus? At all... AT ALL????
They increased fares, they "invested" in new buses (can anyone see the difference??) and now they're using the r-word as an excuse to keep the very likely high salaries their bosses are being kept with and sack the low paid drivers and reduce an already sh*te route coverage?

It will be difficult for me to get to work but I support them 100%.
If a lot more of Irish people protested when was needed, we wouldn't have the severe economical situation we do at the moment.

People- CAR POOL is a word that's well known in other parts of Europe, I've used it here as well to the confusion of my co-workers at the time. So no, it's not something exotic.

GO Dublin bus drivers!!!

I'm sorry but that's just bollocks! If they wan't to protest there are other ways of doing it but they just couldn't be arsed, as has been said they are in the same boat as everyone else but expect special treatment! The country is going down the pan and leaking money worse than a Russian warship leaks oil, and their contribution to getting the economy back on it's feet is causing the loss of more millions of euro due to people not being able to get to work and lost man hours!

seamus · 19-02-2009 11:42AM

Collie D wrote: »

Not a hope in hell. I remember the last bus strike in 2000. Left my house in Coolock just after seven to be in work at eight and arrived in city centre at around ten. Mayhem!

That's a 7.5km distance. You'd walk it in just over an hour and cycle it in about 20 minutes.

Seriously, WTF are you using a car for at all?

There are a very small number of people who are without an alternative if the busses go on strike. If you live 5-6km from work, the walk will do you good and you won't break a sweat. If you live 6-10km from work, a nice leisurely cycle will do it.
Instead of bitching and moaning, why don't we show the busses (and ourselves) that we can't be held to ransom because we're not too lazy to work around their protests?

Madou · 19-02-2009 11:43AM

15 mins from Templeogue on a bike into town evry morning; 40 mins on the bus - just sayin....

Strike = bike

Curlypinkie · 19-02-2009 11:45AM

Slow Motion wrote: »

I'm sorry but that's just bollocks! If they wan't to protest there are other ways of doing it but they just couldn't be arsed, as has been said they are in the same boat as everyone else but expect special treatment! The country is going down the pan and leaking money worse than a Russian warship leaks oil, and their contribution to getting the economy back on it's feet is causing the loss of more millions of euro due to people not being able to get to work and lost man hours!

So in your opinion everyone should just sit tight on their a*se and be happy and bow with a hat in their hand to the powers that be how fabulous everything is that yez don't have to eat grass yet and go back to living in mud huts yet

Wake up people. If it's going to get worse, are yez using your civil rights to protest against the unfairness?

Why should everyone just sit tight and accept that this is the way it's going to be now? Better late than never I say.

I think everyone should go out and protest and stand a vigil outside the Dail, it's their fault... so why should everyone just be silent?

book smarts · 19-02-2009 11:45AM

They've increased fares, yet they still run at a loss. There's a better public transport system in the Third World, seriously.

Fukc the Unions. We need a Thatcher style character to destroy them once and for all.

Collie D · 19-02-2009 11:47AM

seamus wrote: »

That's a 7.5km distance. You'd walk it in just over an hour and cycle it in about 20 minutes.

Seriously, WTF are you using a car for at all?

Jesus, wasn't expecting the stick. :pac:

Maybe I should have expanded. I usually take bus but on this day took a taxi thinking it wouldn't take more than half an hour. If I'd had a bike I'd have cycled. If I'd have know what the traffic was going to be like I'd have walked. As for next week, depends on the weather. Don't fancy walking but if I have to I will. If it's raining I'll try to blag a lift to the DART and try to squeeze on an already crammed train with the thousands of others.

_blank_ · 19-02-2009 11:52AM

Fúck the unions.

But people.

How many of you actually work on a Sunday?

The 1st March is a Sunday.

They are striking on a Sunday.

Big-fúcking-whoop, I'll just stay in bed.

Still though, Unions are bastards.

Slow Motion · 19-02-2009 11:54AM

Curlypinkie wrote: »

So in your opinion everyone should just sit tight on their a*se and be happy and bow with a hat in their hand to the powers that be how fabulous everything is that yez don't have to eat grass yet and go back to living in mud huts yet

Re-read my post rather than using it to make up your own, I said quite clearly that there are other ways to protest, would you be of the same opinion if the Gards or Nurses went for an all out strike? "Well yes people are dying but we have the right to protest!":rolleyes: Lives may not be at stake here but livelyhoods certainly are!

wyndham · 19-02-2009 11:55AM

The army have been used before to break bus strikes in Dublin and they can be used again to provide a skeleton service. I remember during the last strike people gathered at the bus stop anyway, some of them were not even aware of the strike and a lot of people passing in cars would stop and offer lifts.

WTF do the drivers expect? The taxpayer to continue to pump money into the company at a time when usage is decreasing dramatically? To be paid to drive empty/virtually empty buses around the city?

It is time they got a grip. I hope they have all saved a few months mortgage payments,etc because they company can't back down, they don't have the money.

Get ready for traffic chaos, all out Dublin Bus strike

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