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Who is/was the best free kick taker

  • 15-02-2009 10:18PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭


    redout wrote: »
    Shouldnt be much of an argument as Becks has scored about 60 in his pro career and the other two probably couldnt muster more than 20 between them.

    Ronaldinho has scored a lot, over 50 I'd say.Pirlo, I'd say around 20

    Best free kick taker ever. 101 votes

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    Chilavert
    35%
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    Hagi
    1%
    SpossA Primal Nut 2 votes
    Hassler
    0%
    Juninho Pernambucano
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    citytillidie 1 vote
    Ronald Koeman
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    Le Tissier
    1%
    Guy:IncognitoDubliner28 2 votes
    Lorimer
    0%
    Maradona
    1%
    Kingp35Latchy 2 votes
    Mihajlovic
    2%
    iregkK-9eagle eye 3 votes
    Nakamura
    11%
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    Platini
    1%
    premierstonebmcgov86 2 votes
    Ronaldinho
    0%
    patmac 1 vote
    Stoichkov
    0%
    Fratton Fred 1 vote
    Van Hooijdonk
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    Woan
    1%
    inforfungrenache 2 votes
    Zico
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    kinaldo 1 vote
    Zidane
    1%
    ulluQuint 2 votes
    Del Piero
    2%
    Jazzycallaway92Carroller 3 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭besty


    Ronald Koeman
    titan18 wrote: »
    Ronaldinho has scored a lot, over 50 I'd say.Pirlo, I'd say around 20
    I wonder how many Juninho of Lyon has scored in that case...

    Edit: According to Wikipedia, he's scored 42 direct free kicks for Lyon as of 1/2/2009


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Nakamura
    besty wrote: »
    I wonder how many Juninho of Lyon has scored in that case...

    42 for Lyon, according to Wiki.So with his other clubs and with Brazil, I'm saying over 70


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,904 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Chilavert
    Poor game. Milan are dreadful.

    wat

    This game has been fantastic!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Chilavert
    titan18 wrote: »
    Ronaldinho has scored a lot, over 50 I'd say.Pirlo, I'd say around 20

    Not a chance there brother. Absolutely nowhere near 50 for that chap.

    Inzaghi is still class aint that right lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,904 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Chilavert
    redout wrote: »
    Not a chance there brother. Absolutely nowhere near 50 for that chap.

    I'd love to see some actual stats on any of the players discussed. Tis all speculation without them...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Nakamura
    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    I'd love to see some actual stats on any of the players discussed. Tis all speculation without them...

    So would I, I've got this stuff off Wiki and YahooAnswers.Juninho at 42 for Lyon, Becham has 54, and Ronaldinho has 55.But I can guarantee that Ronaldinho and Pirlo have more than 20 between them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Chilavert
    titan18 wrote: »
    So would I, I've got this stuff off Wiki and YahooAnswers.Juninho at 42 for Lyon, Becham has 54, and Ronaldinho has 55.But I can guarantee that Ronaldinho and Pirlo have more than 20 between them.

    but Ronny only has about 130 career goals... would nearly 1 out of every 2 goals he scores be from a freekick?

    Beckham would demolish them all in terms of assists from set pieces though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Nakamura
    but Ronny only has about 130 career goals... would nearly 1 out of every 2 goals he scores be from a freekick?

    Beckham would demolish them all in terms of assists from set pieces though.

    And Beckham has even less career goals.Its hard to find the goals from free kicks so there's no point speculating on the assists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Chilavert
    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    I'd love to see some actual stats on any of the players discussed. Tis all speculation without them...

    Becks aint speculation. Was a discussion on here before Xmas and we worked out that he had at least over 50 for Man Utd, Real Madrid and LA Galaxy. I know Ronaldinho has nowhere near 50 as he is not even prolific !Where did Ronaldinho score all these free-kicks as I can tell you now he didnt score a huge amount for Barca.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Chilavert
    titan18 wrote: »
    And Beckham has even less career goals.Its hard to find the goals from free kicks so there's no point speculating on the assists

    What you are saying is bollox. As the other poster above said no way has nearly 1 in 2 of all his goals been free-kicks absolutely not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Nakamura
    redout wrote: »
    What you are saying is bollox. As the other poster above said no way has nearly 1 in 2 of all his goals been free-kicks absolutely not.

    What, its true that Beckham has less goals than Ronaldinho, and its true that Ronaldinho and Pirlo have more than 20 goals between them, which was your first stupid statement.

    You're saying that Ronaldinho can't have nearly 1 in 2 goals scored being free kicks and Beckham has more than 1 in 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    Chilavert
    Beckham according to stats has 114 goals and we know he has more than 50 free-kicks. Where does your Ronaldinho 50 odd free kicks come from ? Your talking bollox, go prove it ? There is a video on youtube of Beckham scoring 50 something different free kicks for Utd, Madrid, Galaxy and England claiming to be all his free kicks up to about about a year ago. Now since then we know he scored another for AC Milan about two weeks ago and most likely a couple for the Galaxy in the past year no doubt. I watch Barca every bloody week and have done so the past 3-4 years and your talking through your hoop brother because he probably averaged about 3-4 free kicks a season and no more. He is not even prolific at then ffs and has an over-hyped rep like Roberto Carlos did after scoring some crackers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Nakamura


    Laughable to call Ronaldinho not prolific at free kicks. Impeccable technique.



    Not sure how reliable wiki answers is, but it has Ronaldinho on 55 free kicks scored, and Beckham on 54 after the one against Genoa. And considering Ronnie is 5 years younger, I think we can rubbish the argument that Ronaldinho was anywhere NEAR as overhyped as Roberto fcuking Carlos from free kicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Nakamura
    redout wrote: »
    Beckham according to stats has 114 goals and we know he has more than 50 free-kicks. Where does your Ronaldinho 50 odd free kicks come from ? Your talking bollox, go prove it ? There is a video on youtube of Beckham scoring 50 something different free kicks for Utd, Madrid, Galaxy and England claiming to be all his free kicks up to about about a year ago. Now since then we know he scored another for AC Milan about two weeks ago and most likely a couple for the Galaxy in the past year no doubt. I watch Barca every bloody week and have done so the past 3-4 years and your talking through your hoop brother because he probably averaged about 3-4 free kicks a season and no more. He is not even prolific at then ffs and has an over-hyped rep like Roberto Carlos did after scoring some crackers.

    Where did you get that Pirlo and Ronaldinho havent scored 20 free kicks between them.Stupidest comment I've ever read(may not be true).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Zico
    In fairness R. Carlos scored over 70 goals for Madrid alone, and I'd say over half of them were free kicks. He must be an underrated free kick taker because everyone thinks he's overrated, only because he used to blast the wall so often and try the outrageous, while English commentators would only ever mention the goal against France. I've followed Madrid closely since before his time there and I'm sure he averaged at least 4 a season, which ain't bad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,762 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mihajlovic
    I was reading another thread and this started to take over the discussion.

    Rather than keep it going there I thought it better to start a new thread.

    We all know how classy a free kick taker David Beckham is.

    I remember Ronaldinho being very prolific at Barcelona from them.

    Zizou was another excellent free kick taker although he didn't take them too often as he had Del Piero or Beckham with him for a lot of his club career.

    Del Piero was also a magnificent free kick specialist but I don't think he has been as good as he was for quite some time.

    You also have Pirlo at Milan who has been their no.1 free kick expert for many years now.

    Juninho Pernambucano is considered by many as the greatest free kick taker of them all.

    Mijailovic is another who must be considered.

    For me personally Maradona is no. 1.

    Whats your thoughts?

    I could start a poll but we'll see who should be in it first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,762 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mihajlovic
    I couldn't fiind any stats for this argument, but I started a thread on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,075 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Nakamura
    Well, if we're going all time, Mihalhjovic and Ronald Koeman are the two I'd say are the best.Platini would be worth a shout too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,827 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Nakamura
    D-Becks from around 98-2002 was untouchable, seemed like every time he stepped up to the plate he put it away. Perhaps what was more impressive was the range of kick he had, keepers were always left guessing as to which way he would go, whether he would smack it or bend it etc.

    However, if there was one man who over the length of his career could top D-Becks, it would be Siniša Mihajlović . He literally perfected the art of free kick taking, and won games single handily with them.

    Anyone who says Roberto Carlos should be shot immediately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    How could you not mention Dinis!!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 23,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Chilavert
    id probably be most worried about Beckham lining up to hit a free kick just outside the box against a side i supported.

    this thread needs this imo (esp for Charlie)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Nakamura
    Mihajlović was the best free kicker ever to live. Ever. Fact. Thread over. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    Take your pick from Juninho, Ronaldinho, Irwin-inho (:pac:), Becks, stoichkov, Del Piero, Nakamura.....probably more.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭eZe^


    Nakamura
    No seriously guys, Mihajlović. You can ACTUALLY lock the thread now. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Maradona
    Peter Lorimer ( leeds utd) had the record as the fastest and strongest free kicker of his generation . Would not have liked to have being in a wall when he was shooting :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,674 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    Ronald Koeman
    id probably be most worried about Beckham lining up to hit a free kick just outside the box against a side i supported.

    this thread needs this imo (esp for Charlie)


    That goal was out of this world but he seemed to think he could do it every time after that, and I think everyone was expecting a repeat for years after.
    But no it was a one off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,762 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mihajlovic
    Ok so lets say we put up a list for the pole. Who else would people like to see in it?

    Beckham
    Chilavert
    Hagi
    Hassler
    Juninho Pernambucano
    Ronald Koeman
    Le Tissier
    Lorimer
    Maradona
    Mihajlovic
    Nakamura
    Platini
    Ronaldinho
    Stoichkov
    Van Hooijdonk
    Zico
    Zidane


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Maradona
    Kevin Sheedy ( Sheeds )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,147 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Jose Luis Chilavert :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,762 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mihajlovic
    latchyco wrote: »
    Kevin Sheedy ( Sheeds )
    Well you can start another one for best Irish, I don't think so for this pole but you just reminded me the best Irish free taker who would be Ian Harte imo.


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