Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Ardscoil Ris · 13-02-2009 06:54PM

eagle eye wrote: »

^^^ Thats a shocking list, Peter Beardsley in the 40's although the excuse for leaving him so low is funny.

But Carragher in the top 10 is a joke.

And Roger Hunt ahead of Ian Rush seems wrong to me, I know how good Hunt was, but Rush was the most clinical striker after Alan Shearer that I have ever seen. I think he is getting that rating on a World Cup winners medal and not just all that he did for Liverpool.

For me the three famous no. 7's, Dalglish, Keegan and Beardsley are all top ten. Of Liverpool players that I've seen play my top ten would be:
1. Kenny Dalglish
2. Kevin Keegan
3. Ian Rush
4. Steven Gerard
5. Graeme Souness
6. Peter Beardsley
7. John Barnes
8. Alan Hansen
9. Ronnie Whelan
10. Robbie Fowler

Missing the legendary Alan Kennedy. Scored the winning goal in 2 Champions League finals. Only British player to do so.

Karmafaerie · 13-02-2009 07:03PM

I know that most of ye are listing your top ten from your living memory, but no Liverpool all time top ten can exist without Billy Liddell.

Simple as that.

daithijjj · 13-02-2009 07:05PM

Even as a red of 25 years there is no way carragher is even in the top 10 centrebacks, let alone the top 10 overall.........id nearly go so far as to say he and torres should swap positions on that list.

raven136 · 13-02-2009 08:58PM

Karmafaerie wrote: »

I know that most of ye are listing your top ten from your living memory, but no Liverpool all time top ten can exist without Billy Liddell.

Simple as that.

Liddell has to be top 3 simple as.Everything i have read or seen about him is amazing.Even when Liverpool got relegated its widely regarded as a given that they would have dropped again were it not for him.
534 appearnaces 238 goals.Liddellpool.

Not a bad list i reckon,and Tony Evans is a great writer.Anyone who hears him on the game podcast knows just how biased he is.

redout · 13-02-2009 09:10PM

Ardscoil Ris wrote: »

Missing the legendary Alan Kennedy. Scored the winning goal in 2 Champions League finals. Only British player to do so.

Quiz time ! Can anyone name the only two players to score 2 goals in a Champions league final.

Clue: Both have a relevance to Liverpool.

missingtime · 13-02-2009 09:53PM

Inzagi the ****

Malice · 13-02-2009 10:11PM

daithijjj wrote: »

Even as a red of 25 years there is no way carragher is even in the top 10 centrebacks, let alone the top 10 overall.........

While I agree that he shouldn't be in the top 10, I think you're being a bit harsh saying he's not in the top 10 centre backs.
He certainly beats virtually every centre back I saw lining out for Liverpool during the 90's for a start! Neil Ruddock, Torben Piechnik, Bjorn Kvarme, Phil Babb etc. *shudder*

mike65 · 13-02-2009 10:22PM

Alan Kennedy never played in the Champions League (pesky kids)

HashSlinging · 13-02-2009 10:28PM

Of course he did, its only re badged European Cup. He won it for liverpool.

redout · 13-02-2009 10:28PM

mike65 wrote: »

Alan Kennedy never played in the Champions League (pesky kids)

Aye, thats true. My question is only relevant to the Champions league. Think I made that clear when I put it in bold.

zing · 13-02-2009 10:36PM

missingtime wrote: »

Inzagi the ****

and Crespo

redout · 13-02-2009 10:42PM

zing wrote: »

and Crespo

Wrong.

This is two goals in the one final btw as Raul has two but in seperate finals.

whatawaster · 13-02-2009 11:25PM

Crespo and Riedle

mayordenis · 13-02-2009 11:32PM

Riedle what a hero

daithijjj · 13-02-2009 11:58PM

malice_ wrote: »

While I agree that he shouldn't be in the top 10, I think you're being a bit harsh saying he's not in the top 10 centre backs.
He certainly beats virtually every centre back I saw lining out for Liverpool during the 90's for a start! Neil Ruddock, Torben Piechnik, Bjorn Kvarme, Phil Babb etc. *shudder*

Ah come on now, i never said he was rubbish.............the names you have mentioned barely even deserve the tag 'football players'. You know who im talking about, i wont patronise anyone by making a list but i have done so before on another lfc forum just to get my point across.............its fair to say they are all from the late 60s through to the 80s.

redout · 14-02-2009 12:01AM

whatawaster wrote: »

Crespo and Riedle

The answer is Riedle and Inzaghi. When did Crespo ever score two in a final ? I know he scored one but not two.

zing · 14-02-2009 12:06AM

redout wrote:

Wrong.

Right actually

redout wrote: »

When did Crespo ever score two in a final ? I know he scored one but not two.

He scored 2 in Istanbul. Maldini opened the scoring and Crespo added another 2 before the break

mayordenis · 14-02-2009 12:26AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A9phane_Henchoz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_Hyypi%C3%A4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wright_(footballer_born_1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hansen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lawrenson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Thompson

sadly I think there are 2 better centre backs at the club currently, and obviously many more before my time.
I'm sure I'll be murdered for saying that.

ziggy · 14-02-2009 12:37AM

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Davei141 · 14-02-2009 12:54AM

Who would win in a fight, Benayoun or alonso?

eagle eye · 14-02-2009 01:33AM

mayordenis wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A9phane_Henchoz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_Hyypi%C3%A4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wright_(footballer_born_1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hansen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lawrenson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Thompson

sadly I think there are 2 better centre backs at the club currently, and obviously many more before my time.
I'm sure I'll be murdered for saying that.

I don't think Stephane Henchoz deserves a place on Liverpool's best defenders list or Centre halves for that matter. I liked the guy, he played for us before Liverpool. But you have left out so many stars. Now maybe before your time, but legends of Liverpool. Emlyn Hughes and Tommy Smith come to mind immediately.
There were others who did not spend as long at Liverpool but great defenders nontheless like Larry Lloyd and Glenn Hysen. Steve Nicol was a great centreback too although he spent a lot of time at full back due to Hansen and Lawrenson being there. I just know I'm forgetting players now that I shoudl mention but I'd say Carragher finds it tough to make their top ten centre halves.

redout · 14-02-2009 01:35AM

zing wrote: »

He scored 2 in Istanbul. Maldini opened the scoring and Crespo added another 2 before the break

Apologies brother. So then there were three and not two. Riedle, Inzaghi and Crespo. Amazing how the only 3 players to score two in the final all had a relevance of some sort to Liverpool.

mayordenis · 14-02-2009 01:44AM

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't think Stephane Henchoz deserves a place on Liverpool's best defenders list or Centre halves for that matter. I liked the guy, he played for us before Liverpool. But you have left out so many stars. Now maybe before your time, but legends of Liverpool. Emlyn Hughes and Tommy Smith come to mind immediately.
There were others who did not spend as long at Liverpool but great defenders nontheless like Larry Lloyd and Glenn Hysen. Steve Nicol was a great centreback too although he spent a lot of time at full back due to Hansen and Lawrenson being there. I just know I'm forgetting players now that I shoudl mention but I'd say Carragher finds it tough to make their top ten centre halves.

talking more my time and at least the times I've had some semblence of knowledge bout bar names - I'm only a fairweather fan after all.

Rockee · 14-02-2009 02:18AM

I like this American girl..:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er5YYMmke8A&feature=subscription

eagle eye · 14-02-2009 09:28AM

Rockee wrote: »

I like this American girl..:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er5YYMmke8A&feature=subscription

Very good video. I'm the total opposite of that I'm afraid to say. Not a Liverpool and I rate American Football the greatest game on earth. I call it football.

Dub13 · 14-02-2009 10:31AM

eagle eye wrote: »

Very good video. I'm the total opposite of that I'm afraid to say. Not a Liverpool and I rate American Football the greatest game on earth. I call it football.

I like a bit of American Football but no way is it the greatest game on earth not even close.

mike65 · 14-02-2009 10:38AM

That is a bannable comment.

daithijjj · 14-02-2009 11:23AM

mayordenis wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A9phane_Henchoz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_Hyypi%C3%A4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wright_(footballer_born_1963)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hansen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lawrenson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Thompson

sadly I think there are 2 better centre backs at the club currently, and obviously many more before my time.
I'm sure I'll be murdered for saying that.

I agree with you there m8..........we all know the virtues that carra posesses, however, there is talent and there is blind loyalty......if sami was scouse can you just imagine how he would be revered. The same can be applied to ray kennedy etc.........i would also include steve nicol who played everywhere except striker and left midfield. In the fullness of time, i believe agger has everything in the locker to be another gracefull ray kennedy.

jesus_thats_gre · 14-02-2009 12:06PM

I think Nascar is the greatest sport in the world...

Malice · 14-02-2009 12:15PM

daithijjj wrote: »

Ah come on now, i never said he was rubbish.............the names you have mentioned barely even deserve the tag 'football players'. You know who im talking about, i wont patronise anyone by making a list but i have done so before on another lfc forum just to get my point across.............its fair to say they are all from the late 60s through to the 80s.

I never said that you said he was rubbish. It's just that once you get through the usual names of Hansen, Lawrenson, Thompson, Smith and Yeats you're left with guys like Gary Gillespie who, good as he was, isn't in Carragher's class in my opinion. Then you're into the modern era where we skip quickly through the years until we get to Mark Wright who again I think Carragher is better than and Hyypia and Henchoz. I would rate Carragher above Henchoz but below Hyypia.

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