PLEASE HELP, HEALER NEEDED

ruxpin82 wrote: »

christian raised, not that that has anything to do with it, (if there was a god there would probably be no religion).
Im not a religious person, im just looking to be fixed.

i think that GP's wouldn't be able to help and would only refer me to other people and a long drawn out process involving x-rays, specialist,more referals, months of waiting and money would result. the way the health service is run does'nt inspire me with confidence.
I know im looking for an easy fix, but if half a day given over to see one of these guys got a result, wouldn't it be worth it??

i accept that chiropracter/physio is one route which i should explore and probably will, but they're not cheap either, i just want to give myself some options.

thanks for your replys.

taram wrote: »

The HSE can be useless, but the people in it are excellent. Your GP is there to assess your pain, then offer a solution, it's unlikely you'd be waiting for a physio/chiro appointment more than a week. It might be something ridicously easy to sort out, more than likely some physio appointments and medical gel rather than spinal operations If you have health insurance you could probably go to a private physio (my dad got next day appointment) and have it mostly paid for by it.

I admit I am hugely skeptical of healers, so that colours my comments, but I wouldn't risk my health in the hands of someone with no medical experience, you say a GP visit is a waste, but they have the knowledge of what could be wrong, the links to the medical community to cure you (if not something straight forward), and the ability if you have something seriously wrong that they can get you treated, saving you pain in the future. Seriously, what can a healer offer you?

dorothygale wrote: »

I used to have horrible back pain, I couldn't walk some days. I went to a healer and he solved it. This was after years of goign to doctors and chiropractors who would heal me but hten It would come back every few months. I have never had that problem again, he didn't even charge me. I wish I could remember his name or where he lived exactly. I was driving with my boss on the road to Dublin from Mayo (don't work for him anymore), but I believe it was in another county... I remember he was on an oxygen tank... My boss told me he was the real deal and that he cured a lady with cancer a few years ago.

I am an athiest, but he prayed over my back and did the sign of the cross. When I left, it stil hurt but 30 minutes later no pain and it hasn't come back.

I dunno about healers, all i know is my back hasn't hurt since.

mdebets wrote: »

Sorry to disappoint you, but that's not true.
An estimate 200 Mio. people have visited Lourdes. Of them 67 have been healed (accepted healings by the Catholic Church). That's 0.0000335%.
I think even with a placebo effect the rate should have been higher.

mdebets wrote: »

Sorella, could you please make up your mind.
First you said



then you said



What is it, are these healings frequently authenticated or not?



Let's have a look at the figures again and do another conservative estimate.
Let's assume that the number was totally overestimate and only 1% of these people were really there. That would make 2Mio visitors. Now assume that for every genuine sick person 9 non-sick person were there. Now we have 200.000 sick people having visited Lourdes. Now do your maths, still only 0.03 %.
Let's ask a doctor here, how this numbers relate to healing in hospitals? I would say they are much higher.
Now you're going to say, that not all healings are recorded or acknowledged by the Church. You have to think however that the Church has a vested interest in Lourdes. Do you honestly think, that they would undercount healings? No, they are going to count as much healings as possible. Therefore it is more likely that there were actually less then 67 healings.



Statistics are not meaningless. A absence of a statistic says quite a lot.
If there were so many healing, as you claim, there would have been a statistic long ago, showing exactly this, the many many people that were healed. That this statistic doesn't exist tells you that the healings don't exist.

Another thing you should ask yourself is, why does Lourdes needs a hospital, if the people could just be healed?

Healers and Healing places have existed since antiquity. But they never removed the need for conventional doctors. Surely at least one of them should have been so good that there was no need for doctors anymore.

Another question is as to why none of the many healers ever did a publicity act, like going to the local hospital and healing all the people in there, his success afterwards would be immense.

At the very least, why does non of these healers did a large study, to show that their patients were really healed. After all, that would be very easy to have a before and after examination by an independent doctor.

On a personal note, I must really say I'm disappointed when a Christian (especcially a nun) falls for this sort of mambo-jambo, as I really think it cheapens the Christian faith (and I'm saying this as a Christian).
Do I believe God heals: yes; does he need a human medium or a place for it: no, why would he; would I ever advice someone to go and see a faith healer: never, but I would pray that he would be healed, by a doctor or God, but not by a healer