Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

noodler · 11-02-2009 11:44AM

So? He clearly isn't injured-thats the point.

jaykay74 · 11-02-2009 11:45AM

kida wrote: »

Just saw spanish squad - shocked that Torres is in it. what was point of not playing him last weekend then?

He was on a break

PiE · 11-02-2009 11:48AM

kida wrote: »

Just saw spanish squad - shocked that Torres is in it. what was point of not playing him last weekend then?

Wait - let me get this clear - are we bashing Rafa for protecting/resting Torres again?

colly10 · 11-02-2009 11:58AM

PiE wrote: »

Wait - let me get this clear - are we bashing Rafa for protecting/resting Torres again?

It's fine to rest Torres, if your going to do that though why sell Keane?
We end up playing Ngog instead who has been septic anytime i've seen him this year, I would actually take back Voronin to play instead of him

mike65 · 11-02-2009 12:02PM

Calm down, I imagine he'll get a late run about for 20-25 mins.

yom 1 · 11-02-2009 12:03PM

colly10 wrote: »

It's fine to rest Torres, if your going to do that though why sell Keane?
We end up playing Ngog instead who has been septic anytime i've seen him this year, I would actually take back Voronin to play instead of him

And round and round we go..............

In Ngog's defense, I thought he had a decent game on Sat considering it was his first start. Wasn't fed an awful lot, but he got stuck in and tried to play some ball when he could.

daithijjj · 11-02-2009 12:11PM

mike65 wrote: »

Calm down, I imagine he'll get a late run about for 20-25 mins.

According to bbc sport he is starting the game.......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7874902.stm

noodler · 11-02-2009 12:15PM

Good. Hopefully he will get even sharper and build more match fitness.

colly10 · 11-02-2009 12:17PM

john47832 wrote: »

No, I’m talking about those nasty Rafa bashers who are just so plain boring, boring, boring..

Someone doesn't agree with you, so is obviously boring, I find your rant and the whole in rafa we trust thing boring but that's irrelevant

john47832 wrote: »

The headlines told us how on Keanes return to Tottenham he ‘stuck the boot in’. The strongest term he used was that it was ‘baffling’. Another cheap headline to grab attention, and another distortion of the truth.

Thats the papers, they write ****, if ye read tabloids looking for opinions then thats what your going to get. This is not the opinion of any fan

john47832 wrote: »

Fans can be gullible and when they hear an ex-favourite such as Rushie speak they are going to listen – even when he is talking tripe. So let’s analyse what Rushie told us. When it came to team selection he told us that when he was in Italy he played in a game where he scored four goals. He was then taken off when he felt if he had stayed on he would have scored a couple more.

Noone said anything about Rush, I along with others base my opinion on what I see, not what I hear from the tabloids, the commentators etc.. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean that my opinion is any less valid or that I got it from reading the papers.
You get alot of fans who back Rafa and believe they know it all, this is bull**** imo, from my perspective some of them are looking with Rose tinted glasses, but I still don't look at their opinions as less valid than my own (although many of them would look at mine as invalid)

john47832 wrote: »

Keane was sold for economic reasons – that’s the way life is at Anfield.

True, so I assume that you can see that selling him is a gamble which may or may not pay off and can understand why some fans think it was a bad decision?

john47832 wrote: »

as long as the Reds have the great man at the helm, they have hope.
Benitez, take a bow. And shame on you who run from the truth of his greatness

This is the sensationalist bul**** that you accuse others of, you put the success down to the manager, I put it down to the players and feel we are doing well in spite of the manager, again its opinion but unlike you I don't confuse mine with being a fact

mike65 · 11-02-2009 12:19PM

re Torres

Oh dear, not too happy about that. The ref better be paying attention.

LuckyLloyd · 11-02-2009 12:26PM

Really, there isn't much point in worrying about an individual game because 'zomg he could get hurt'. If he is fully fit at the moment it is correct for him to be selected for his country. There is no reason to believe that he is more likely to get a knock or injury in this game than any run of the mill premiership game. He'll be grand.

daithijjj · 11-02-2009 12:27PM

mike65 wrote: »

re Torres

Oh dear, not too happy about that. The ref better be paying attention.

Well i hope his eyes are on ferdinand at least..;)........you never know what demons could shine through in his treatment of torres.

Iang87 · 11-02-2009 12:40PM

genuinely do think ferdinand will try do him later on

mark renton · 11-02-2009 12:44PM

colly10 wrote: »

1. Someone doesn't agree with you, so is obviously boring, I find your rant and the whole in rafa we trust thing boring but that's irrelevant

2. Thats the papers, they write ****, if ye read tabloids looking for opinions then thats what your going to get. This is not the opinion of any fan

3. Noone said anything about Rush

4. True, so I assume that you can see that selling him is a gamble which may or may not pay off and can understand why some fans think it was a bad decision?

5. This is the sensationalist bul**** that you accuse others of, you put the success down to the manager, I put it down to the players and feel we are doing well in spite of the manager, again its opinion but unlike you I don't confuse mine with being a fact

Youve completely lost me here

a bit like trying to guess what Rafa will do next
This article was written by Pat Dolan which I totally disagree with and made that point.

1. I didnt write the article, took it from an earlier post
2. I made that point - its a point from a "second rate manager"
3. Read again...
4. I believe in gambling, this is not a gamble, selling any proven goalscorer when we are second in league is insanity, add that to the fact we only have 1 real goalscorer... more stubborn I reckon
5. Again - I didnt write the article, was rather commenting on the rubbish that was in it... Partly my fault for not indicating sufficiently

kida · 11-02-2009 12:47PM

Iang87 wrote: »

genuinely do think ferdinand will try do him later on

correct me if I am wrong but are all Torres injuries in the last few years self inflicted

monkey9 · 11-02-2009 12:49PM

kida wrote: »

correct me if I am wrong but are all Torres injuries in the last few years self inflicted

Yes

shotamoose · 11-02-2009 12:52PM

John Nicholson wrote:

everyone else who has spent 20 million on a striker would play him every game

No they wouldn't. And they don't. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

colly10 · 11-02-2009 12:53PM

john47832 wrote: »

Youve completely lost me here a bit like trying to guess what Rafa will do next
This article was written by Pat Dolan which I totally disagree with and made that point.

1. I didnt write the article, took it from an earlier post
2. I made that point - its a point from a "second rate manager"
3. Read again...
4. I believe in gambling, this is not a gamble, selling any proven goalscorer when we are second in league is insanity, add that to the fact we only have 1 real goalscorer... more stubborn I reckon
5. Again - I didnt write the article, was rather commenting on the rubbish that was in it... Partly my fault for not indicating sufficiently

Sorry, I took everything I quoted to be your opinion, didn't realise you were quoting someone else

mark renton · 11-02-2009 12:54PM

shotamoose wrote: »

No they wouldn't. And they don't. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Well he would play 90% of the time

Handsome Bob · 11-02-2009 01:08PM

I am concerned about Ferdinand on Torres. It may be cynical, it may be childish but I don't care. I don't trust him to play a fair game against Torres.

Spud83 · 11-02-2009 01:26PM

Ah lads I don't remember Ferdinand ever making a cynical tackle. With Aston Villa up your holes maybe you should be worried about Barry taking out Alonso, or Torres.

mike65 · 11-02-2009 01:30PM

Cancel teh game!

daithijjj · 11-02-2009 01:31PM

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Ah lads I don't remember Ferdinand ever making a cynical tackle. With Aston Villa up your holes maybe you should be worried about Barry taking out Alonso, or Torres.

i think we are just a little bit overly worried about the thought of dirk on his own up there..:D

and why would barry injure one of his teamates for 09/10 season?:P

Cyrus · 11-02-2009 01:32PM

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Ah lads I don't remember Ferdinand ever making a cynical tackle. With Aston Villa up your holes maybe you should be worried about Barry taking out Alonso, or Torres.

why would he take out his future team mates?? :pac:

ferdinand is filthy, dont trust him :mad:

monkey9 · 11-02-2009 01:39PM

daithijjj wrote: »

and why would barry injure one of his teamates for 09/10 season?:P

Cyrus wrote: »

why would he take out his future team mates?? :pac:

Lads, the Villa fans are starting to get a bit cocky as it is. Don't make it so easy for them, cos you just know one of them would come in saying "well you can't blame Torres for wanting to join Villa. He wants to win things!!!

Thanx 4 The Fish · 11-02-2009 01:59PM

They can be as cocky as they want.

They will win nothing.

eagle eye · 11-02-2009 02:11PM

Wow over 11,000 posts. Cliff note time.

How will we do in the league
The signing of Robbie Keane was a masterstroke by Benitez, perfect partner for Torres.
We will do better this season.
Hubba Hubba we are off to a great start.
Benitez is the king.
Hope them American gits sell the club soon.
New stadium officially off.
Rafa is not a good manager
Rafa hasn't signed a new contract yet
How have you the cheek to say that
Gerard did nothing, I wasn't there but I know he did nothing.
Rafa made that tv appearance to take the heat off of Gerard
Rafa still hasn't signed a new contract
All these draws are wreckin' my head
Rafa is a terrible manager
No he's not
Yes he is
Rafa still hasn't signed a contract
No he's not
Yes he is
Keane had to go, Rafa never wanted him anyways
Rafa proves he is the king again.
Rafa still hasn't signed a new contract.

I think that covers most of it.

It dwarfs the United thread with a meezly 6.2k posts so far.

What do Liverpool fans expect for the rest of the season?
What would you be satisfied with as a minimum at the end of the season?

daithijjj · 11-02-2009 02:11PM

monkey9 wrote: »

Lads, the Villa fans are starting to get a bit cocky as it is. Don't make it so easy for them, cos you just know one of them would come in saying "well you can't blame Torres for wanting to join Villa. He wants to win things!!!

MONKEY9..........twas just a playfull comment.........o'neill has 6 players in the squad, hes defo no ferguson when it comes to pulling players out of squads due to 'picking up knocks'.

zing · 11-02-2009 02:18PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Wow over 11,000 posts. Cliff note time.
[ .... ]
What do Liverpool fans expect for the rest of the season?

Another 11,000 posts in here

What would you be satisfied with as a minimum at the end of the season?

Maybe 10,000 more posts

:p

raven136 · 11-02-2009 02:20PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Wow over 11,000 posts. Cliff note time.

What do Liverpool fans expect for the rest of the season?
What would you be satisfied with as a minimum at the end of the season?

i expect Liverpool to win ten of the last 13 games and to beat Madrid.

I was hoping to be there or thereabouts at the start of the season and to have a decent champions league run.

Im the odd one out here,a fairly contented Liverpool fan:D

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