Goodbye!!

Davidius · 06-02-2009 07:37PM

jester77 wrote: »

Why are people emigrating to the furthest away countries possible when they are not even guaranteed work and by the sounds of it, it's not too good down under either

Because they have drink, what else? :pac:

jester77 · 06-02-2009 07:40PM

Davidius wrote: »

Because they have drink, what else? :pac:

Eh, I think you'll find some of the worlds best beers on the continent... and for a hell of a lot cheaper!

IHATELIBERTAS · 06-02-2009 07:42PM

i think moving to australia/canada is very un-european imo

holly1 · 06-02-2009 07:46PM

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

Why the hell is your son in Iraq ? What company brought him out there

Selling cars to American soilders and air force.I cant rember the name of the company but they are American.They advertise in Irish papers every six months or so.

Davidius · 06-02-2009 07:47PM

jester77 wrote: »

Eh, I think you'll find some of the worlds best beers on the continent... and for a hell of a lot cheaper!

Eh, I think you'll find there's a difference between really tasty, affordable beer and 'drink'.

*I've never tasted beer, roflz

holly1 · 06-02-2009 07:48PM

jester77 wrote: »

Eh, I think you'll find some of the worlds best beers on the continent... and for a hell of a lot cheaper!

No drink in Iraq:D

Red Sleeping Beauty · 06-02-2009 07:50PM

IHATELIBERTAS wrote: »

i think moving to australia/canada is very un-european imo

I wouldn't have guessed from your username that that would be your opinion on the matter.

Blush_01 · 06-02-2009 08:10PM

Lots of people I went to school with have gone, lots of my cousins are over there... I was contemplating it myself, if I'm honest.

Apparently Oz is crying out for hairdressers. Their home-grown ones are apparently crap and very expensive (basic haircut starts at AUS$85 or something ridiculous).

4zn76tysfajdxp · 06-02-2009 08:14PM

IHATELIBERTAS wrote: »

i think moving to australia/canada is very un-european imo

What if you're a convict?

Red Sleeping Beauty · 06-02-2009 08:14PM

Being a convict is anti-European

jester77 · 06-02-2009 08:15PM

holly1 wrote: »

No drink in Iraq:D

Must be saving a fortune

Highsider · 06-02-2009 08:27PM

I've heard one or two horror stories about people going to Australia in the last few months (unskilled and skilled) and not finding any jobs to be had and returning home. At least you get the dole here.

propertypin.com · 06-02-2009 09:00PM

Highsider wrote: »

I've heard one or two horror stories about people going to Australia in the last few months (unskilled and skilled) and not finding any jobs to be had and returning home. At least you get the dole here.

Some people not all are in for a very deep shock going to Aus, you know the people lets call them shepple who make up a good percentage of people going, they will go with friends on a whv to sydney perth or melbourne, live with other Irish people in places like Bondi and wear there GAA jerseys go to Irish pubs full of other Irish people and bascially just go to Aus to gett drunk, these people will find it very hard to get work as they wont travel to look for work just travel to the cities and they will be snobish about what jobs they get. Now for the other good percentage of Irish people who will go to Aus they will have a easier time getting work as they will take any job and will travel outside the cities to look for work, it will still be hard but they have a far greater chance of getting work. I would expect thousands of the first crowd to be ringing there mommys and daddys back home looking for money and eventually returing home. You see there are 2 types of people those who are true travellers and those that were never made to travel. Now the true travelers have great perservenance and will tough it out until the end, the other crowd have never lived trough a recession before and think Aus is another version of the celtic tiger, but they will soon be forced to grow up very fast.

Redpunto · 06-02-2009 09:21PM

yep - two of my friends have emmigrated in the past week

Highsider · 06-02-2009 10:43PM

propertypin.com wrote: »

Some people not all are in for a very deep shock going to Aus, you know the people lets call them shepple who make up a good percentage of people going, they will go with friends on a whv to sydney perth or melbourne, live with other Irish people in places like Bondi and wear there GAA jerseys go to Irish pubs full of other Irish people and bascially just go to Aus to gett drunk, these people will find it very hard to get work as they wont travel to look for work just travel to the cities and they will be snobish about what jobs they get. Now for the other good percentage of Irish people who will go to Aus they will have a easier time getting work as they will take any job and will travel outside the cities to look for work, it will still be hard but they have a far greater chance of getting work. I would expect thousands of the first crowd to be ringing there mommys and daddys back home looking for money and eventually returing home. You see there are 2 types of people those who are true travellers and those that were never made to travel. Now the true travelers have great perservenance and will tough it out until the end, the other crowd have never lived trough a recession before and think Aus is another version of the celtic tiger, but they will soon be forced to grow up very fast.

Emm the people i'm talking about are in I.T. and finance and are'nt your average lazy GAA shirt wearing Joe's or Jane's who have'nt got the bottle for the fight. The jobs are'nt out there and a hell of a lot of people are in for a very rude awaking when they head down under.

propertypin.com · 06-02-2009 10:53PM

Highsider wrote: »

Emm the people i'm talking about are in I.T. and finance and are'nt your average lazy GAA shirt wearing Joe's or Jane's who have'nt got the bottle for the fight. The jobs are'nt out there and a hell of a lot of people are in for a very rude awaking when they head down under.

There still is loads of jobs there in regional Aus just not in the big cities, maybe they might not be work in I.T or finance but there is work so they need to get over themselves and take whatever job is out there, the world does not owe them a living just because they went to college to study I.T or finance thats half there problem, they need to take anything they can get.

jester77 · 06-02-2009 11:03PM

Highsider wrote: »

Emm the people i'm talking about are in I.T. and finance and are'nt your average lazy GAA shirt wearing Joe's or Jane's who have'nt got the bottle for the fight. The jobs are'nt out there and a hell of a lot of people are in for a very rude awaking when they head down under.

Plenty of IT jobs here in Germany and only a fraction of the distance away, plus no visa required. Seems to be a sheep mentality among people in Ireland!

Electric Sheep · 06-02-2009 11:36PM

There's nothing wrong with emigrating. Most emigrants have a lot of fun, meet a lot of people, and mature a great deal. There's a lot to be said for getting away from your home town for a few years, or even forever.

IHATELIBERTAS · 06-02-2009 11:54PM

jester77 wrote: »

Plenty of IT jobs here in Germany and only a fraction of the distance away, plus no visa required. Seems to be a sheep mentality among people in Ireland!

in fairness though, a lot are just going over on those year visas, and for a thing thats meant to be a bit a of craic the sun and heat of australia wins out over the cold and dreary german winter.

perhaps people should be made aware in Ireland that we have FREE MOVEMENT in EU. personally i think now moving through the EU is MIGRATION rather than emmigration.

Quazzie · 07-02-2009 12:11AM

jester77 wrote: »

Why are people emigrating to the furthest away countries possible when they are not even guaranteed work and by the sounds of it, it's not too good down under either

There are plenty of jobs around Europe, you don't need a work visa and you are covered by the European health insurance card in the beginning until you would be sorted out, plus you are never more than 2 hours away on a flight for the equivalent price of a train from Cork to Dublin.

If I was going anywhere I'd go to Oz for some basic reasons

They drive on the same side of the road as us
The speak English
There is a good few Irish there so there is an Irish community
Its got good weather and in Melbourne in particular its not as drastically hot
They are a country that are fairly independent and not as caught up in other countries economic stability and therefore are probably better served to survive the global recession

Thats just a few off the top of my head. There are more reasons

dSTAR · 07-02-2009 12:25AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

[*]Its got good weather and in Melbourne in particular its not as drastically hot

LOL. Have you been here recently? Today is probably going to be the hottest day on record. Last week it was so hot that the train lines were buckling and the city morgue was taking in an extra 50 or 60 bodies a day as a result of the heat related deaths among the sick and elderly.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/the-sun-rises-on-our-worst-day-in-history-20090206-7zzf.html

jester77 · 07-02-2009 12:34AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

If I was going anywhere I'd go to Oz for some basic reasons
They drive on the same side of the road as us

The speak English

There is a good few Irish there so there is an Irish community

Its got good weather and in Melbourne in particular its not as drastically hot

They are a country that are fairly independent and not as caught up in other countries economic stability and therefore are probably better served to survive the global recession

Thats just a few off the top of my head. There are more reasons

TBH, if you want to drive on the same side of the road, speak English and only hang around with irish people, then why would you consider going anywhere at all?

Chucky the tree · 07-02-2009 12:35AM

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

If I was going anywhere I'd go to Oz for some basic reasons
They drive on the same side of the road as us

The speak English

There is a good few Irish there so there is an Irish community

Its got good weather and in Melbourne in particular its not as drastically hot

They are a country that are fairly independent and not as caught up in other countries economic stability and therefore are probably better served to survive the global recession

Thats just a few off the top of my head. There are more reasons

That's one of the main reasons to avoid the place.

Rb · 07-02-2009 01:15AM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

That's one of the main reasons to avoid the place.

Indeed,

A load of Irish (including every Tommo, Anto and Deco who can't get their brick laying jobs here anymore) and a shit load of Brits who've given up on the Costa Del Crime and are now selling their scouse shacks and moving down under instead.

If I were emigrating, it would be to get the hell away from the above people, as far as I could and then should I stumble upon some, avoid conversation with them and hope they leave asap.

IHATELIBERTAS · 07-02-2009 01:18AM

i'd rather go and meet the 40,000 odd irish in germany tbh. loads of my cousins moved there in 2000 to work in construction. gaa clubs and everything there. germans really like irish too and are interested in the culture, well this is what my cousins say.

when i went there i played fiddle and the craic was great.

dSTAR · 07-02-2009 01:33AM

Rb wrote: »

If I were emigrating, it would be to get the hell away from the above people, as far as I could and then should I stumble upon some, avoid conversation with them and hope they leave asap.

I must live a sheltered life. Its been nigh on a decade since I sat with a group of Irish people in an Irish pub. The only reason for such an encounter recently was a Melbourne Beers and not your typical paddy fest. Although Whitewashman was wearing an Irish footy jersey

jester77 · 07-02-2009 01:35AM

IHATELIBERTAS wrote: »

i'd rather go and meet the 40,000 odd irish in germany tbh. loads of my cousins moved there in 2000 to work in construction. gaa clubs and everything there. germans really like irish too and are interested in the culture, well this is what my cousins say.

when i went there i played fiddle and the craic was great.

There's actually only 10,040 Irish in Germany at the end of 2005. The genesis destatis site is down, so I don't know if they have more up to date figures. Most of the Irish are in the south, in Hamburg there were less than 300 out of the cities population of 1.77 million.

Rb · 07-02-2009 01:36AM

dSTAR wrote: »

I must live a sheltered life. Its been nigh on a decade since I sat with a group of Irish people in an Irish pub. The only reason for such an encounter recently was a Melbourne Beers and not your typical paddy fest. Although Whitewashman was wearing an Irish footy jersey

Ouch, of all the Irish people to run into over there...very unlucky buddy :pac:

IHATELIBERTAS · 07-02-2009 01:37AM

jester77 wrote: »

There's actually only 10,040 Irish in Germany at the end of 2005. The genesis destatis site is down, so I don't know if they have more up to date figures. Most of the Irish are in the south, in Hamburg there were less than 300 out of the cities population of 1.77 million.

ah my apologies, its 40,000 of irish descent.

ive been told in the north they aspire to be british. dont know if its ijust a cultural joke or not

dSTAR · 07-02-2009 01:41AM

Rb wrote: »

Ouch, of all the Irish people to run into over there...very unlucky buddy :pac:

You are only saying that because WWM is taking a little break from Boards.

He is great value and kept me entertained with his very funny quips and observations.

Goodbye!!

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