Fallout 3

uberpixie · 23-01-2009 04:46PM

Climate Expert wrote: »

Thats because very few people cared about all the content in Oblivion, most of which was fairly tedious. Thankfully Bethesda have ignored the diehards and put their effort into making a great game.

+1

Would much rather have a shorter game with more detailed characters, interesting quests, interesting locations with plenty of detail rather that a gigantic map where all the areas/quests/characters feel copy and pasted in again and again as with oblivion.....

Depends on what you think an RPG SHOULD be.

Some people like hours and hours of mindless grind,some like games where the main character is an effeminate lady boy with big hair and lots of random battles, some people like an interesting game with interesting quests with multiple endings and lots of dialogue and moral choices, some like D&D style hack and slash party games.

It really comes down to personal taste.

Creature · 23-01-2009 04:50PM

noodler wrote: »

I am on the ps3 version (fine btw!).

I am just leaving Rivert city, very disappointed with the city, theres no one there except a trader and a big boat I can't yet access. If it weren't for the you know what in the Lincoln memorial then it would be a pointless are. Is there more to do here?

Also at what stage of the game's main story am I at if I am leaving Rivet now?????????????

Big boat? You mean the huge aircraft carrier? That is Rivet City. When you say trader I assume you one of those guys who hangs around outside a city/town entrance with a brahmin and a guard?

You have to go up the ramps in that small building across from the ship and use the intercom to get them to send the bridge across.

Jazzy · 23-01-2009 05:28PM

noodler wrote: »

I am on the ps3 version (fine btw!).

I am just leaving Rivert city, very disappointed with the city, theres no one there except a trader and a big boat I can't yet access. If it weren't for the you know what in the Lincoln memorial then it would be a pointless are. Is there more to do here?

Also at what stage of the game's main story am I at if I am leaving Rivet now?????????????

ill be honest here dude, thats just bad gaming

norrie rugger · 23-01-2009 05:31PM

Creature wrote: »

Big boat? You mean the huge aircraft carrier? That is Rivet City. When you say trader I assume you one of those guys who hangs around outside a city/town entrance with a brahmin and a guard?

You have to go up the ramps in that small building across from the ship and use the intercom to get them to send the bridge across.

I'm thinking tha he has walked across the bridge to Pinkerton's lab, which is well bloody locked

LOL, ROFL and etc:D

noodler · 23-01-2009 05:41PM

You are all absolutely hilarious. I saw that moocher at the top of the metal thing who wanted my purified water but I missed the intercom.

Great stuff. I knew there had to be more to it!

Strange I was still able to progress by simply going to the nearby Lincoln memorial.
Maybe there was a further clue in Rivet about heading over there.

norrie rugger · 23-01-2009 05:45PM

noodler wrote: »

You are all absolutely hilarious. I saw that moocher at the top of the metal thing who wanted my purified water but I missed the intercom.

Great stuff. I knew there had to be more to it!

Strange I was still able to progress by simply going to the nearby Lincoln memorial.
Maybe there was a further clue in Rivet about heading over there.

you are on

a side quest there

noodler · 23-01-2009 05:47PM

Cool. Cos all I have done so far is the Megaton Bomb and Rielly's Rangers in terms of optional ones.

norrie rugger · 23-01-2009 05:49PM

noodler wrote: »

Cool. Cos all I have done so far is the Megaton Bomb and Rielly's Rangers in terms of optional ones.

Are you in the Lincon or Jefferson?

The Lincon is not that close.

Also, there are loads of side quests. You should visit

Underworld in the History Museum, the Supply Shop in Megaton for two ones that will get you exploring the map a bit more

MOH · 23-01-2009 05:50PM

Sarky wrote: »

That may be true, but you're forgetting that Oblivion was rubbish.

Fallout 3 might be smaller, but there's still a metric f*ckton of stuff to do, and apart from the main quest being far too short, it's all good. It's immersive, it's funny, it's beautiful.

If you really think it's too small, pick the Explorer perk once you hit level 20 to see what you missed. I don't care how obsessive-compulsive you are, I guarantee you missed something interesting.

The problem with the Explorer perk is that it's a bit too late, given that you can't continue after you finish the main quest.

noodler · 23-01-2009 05:51PM

Yeah it is Jefferson isn't it? Where you get the audio taps of .........

norrie rugger · 23-01-2009 05:54PM

noodler wrote: »

Yeah it is Jefferson isn't it? Where you get the audio taps of .........

ok main quest but missing a lot of info that you need

pablomakaveli · 23-01-2009 07:38PM

MOH wrote: »

The problem with the Explorer perk is that it's a bit too late, given that you can't continue after you finish the main quest.

I would'nt have liked to have gotten that too early as there'd be no motivation to explore the Wastelands. There are things like the remains of houses that might have weapons or ammo or holotapes that aren't shown on the map.

Sierra Oscar · 23-01-2009 08:02PM

This months PC Zone have a preview of the upcoming content addition pack for Fallout 3, named Operation Anchorage. It is due for release Jan 27th, and looks very promising.:)

Some screen shots can be found here.

Sarky · 26-01-2009 01:42AM

MOH wrote: »

The problem with the Explorer perk is that it's a bit too late, given that you can't continue after you finish the main quest.

So forget the main quest, it's boring and ends badly in a horribly arbitrary way.

Lethal levels of radiation, eh? And the radiation-immune bastard won't do it? Well, I'll just neck all the Rad-X I have before going in. Now I only suffer 1 rad a second eh? Plenty of time to punch in the code. I get more rads fighting a pack of glowing ghouls. Hang on, why am I suddenly dead? What the hell?

26-01-2009 12:28PM

Is this dlc coming out tonight? anyone know the time?

MOH · 26-01-2009 12:34PM

Sarky wrote: »

So forget the main quest, it's boring and ends badly in a horribly arbitrary way.
Lethal levels of radiation, eh? And the radiation-immune bastard won't do it? Well, I'll just neck all the Rad-X I have before going in. Now I only suffer 1 rad a second eh? Plenty of time to punch in the code. I get more rads fighting a pack of glowing ghouls. Hang on, why am I suddenly dead? What the hell?

Yeah, that was a bit annoying.

Radiation immune moron right there, I'll get him to do it. But "Nope, I won't do it. I could, no problem, and we'd all walk away and you could carry on exploring. But it's, um, your destiny. And I'm lazy. And I never liked you anyway. So go on in there and die". Well, my big green friend, guess who's not getting released next time round.

ShiverinEskimo · 26-01-2009 12:35PM

I'm level 12 on my second playthrough. I haven't done an ounce of the main story and I'm having a laugh. I'm as evil as Hitler and doing loads of side quests and mini quests that I completely missed the first run through. There's so many little things in the game that you could be playing through it ten times and still miss stuff.

pixelburp · 26-01-2009 12:42PM

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Is this dlc coming out tonight? anyone know the time?

Nope; tomorrow, the 27th. I imagine the release will bebased on one of the American time zones *shrug*

Mr Bloat · 26-01-2009 12:53PM

I bought this before Christmas on PC but have only gotten around to really devoting time to it now. Brilliant stuff, I'm concentrating on the side quests at the moment. Just did the Fire Ants one last night and loved it. One thing though - I can't get the songs out of my head! I'm in work now humming "I don't want to set the world on fire" and I drove my wife mad yesterday singing "I’m a mighty, mighty man, I’m young and I’m in my prime".

noodler · 26-01-2009 12:57PM

I will kill if "Hes hacking, hes hacking, hes hacking..OOlllllddd Peat"

Is that actually a 1950s song about a serial killer/cannibal?

Mr Bloat · 26-01-2009 01:05PM

noodler wrote: »

I will kill if "Hes hacking, hes hacking, hes hacking..OOlllllddd Peat"

Is that actually a 1950s song about a serial killer/cannibal?

http://www.last.fm/music/Roy+Brown :eek:

ShiverinEskimo · 26-01-2009 01:06PM

noodler wrote: »

I will kill if "Hes hacking, hes hacking, hes hacking..OOlllllddd Peat"

Is that actually a 1950s song about a serial killer/cannibal?

http://legalgeekery.com/2008/11/08/fallout-3-song-list/ wrote:

Butcher Pete by Roy Brown

Hey everybody, did the news get around
About a guy named Butcher Pete
Oh, Pete just flew into this town
And he’s choppin’ up all the women’s meat

[Chorus]
He’s hackin’ and wackin’ and smackin’
He’s hackin’ and wackin’ and smackin’
He’s hackin’ and wackin’ and smackin’
He just hacks, wacks, choppin’ that meat

Butcher Pete’s got a long sharp knife
He starts choppin’ and don’t know when to stop
All you fellows gotta watch your wifes
‘Cause Pete don’t care who’s meat he chops

[Chorus]

Ever since Peter flew into town
He’s been havin’ a ball
Just cuttin’ and choppin’ for miles around
Single women, married women, old maids and all

[Chorus]

Wakes up in the morning, half past five
Chops from sunrise to sunset
I don’t see how he stays alive
Meat’s gonna be the death of ole Pete, yeah

[Chorus]

The police put Pete in jail
Yes, he finally met his faith
But when they came to pay his bail
They found him choppin’ up his cell mate

[Chorus]

That Butcher Pete is a crazy man
Tries to chop down the wind and the rain
Just hacks on anything he can get
Say, turn this record over, you ain’t heard nothing yet

noodler · 26-01-2009 01:07PM

You don't expect that kind of song from the likes of him?

I mean if that was Marilyn Manson or something people would be in uproar!

Not to mention it gets on my bloody nerves.

silvine · 26-01-2009 06:13PM

Interesting reading and it'd be silly to say Fallout 3 is an FPS! Can't wait for DLC #3 now.

Bethesda Reacts To Three Major ‘Fallout 3′ Criticisms
Posted by Patrick Klepek on 1/26/09 at 10:00 am.

As good as “Fallout 3″ is — I’ve invested more than 65 hours! — it wasn’t a perfect game, a statement even “Fallout 3″ executive producer Todd Howard would agree with, so we lined up three common criticisms gamers have leveled against his post-apocalyptic RPG to find out if he agreed with them.

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“Fallout 3″ was not only big and ambitious, but Bethesda Softworks‘ first time playing with the coveted “Fallout” license. There’s much to love about the studio’s work in “Fallout 3,” but it wasn’t a perfect game. In fact, several criticisms leveled against “Fallout 3″ were pretty universal.

I jotted down three significant criticisms gamers said affected their “Fallout 3″ experience and asked executive producer Todd Howard to evaluate whether gamers’ and critics’ observations were valid.

Before Howard responded, there was some fear he’d take offense, but he dashed those feelings away. “I tend to think all criticism is fair, as putting a game out and charging money for it should cause such things,” he explained.

With that in mind…

Criticism: #1: “Fallout 3″ is just mediocre when judged as a first person shooter

Howard: Agreed.

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Criticism #2: The ending isn’t very satisfying and much shorter than other “Fallout” endings

Howard: Based on the feedback I’ve seen, most people are pissed off that it ends, not the ‘ending’ itself. Maybe that’s one and the same, I don’t know. That’s another thing we’re changing in DLC3 [downloadable content #3, "Broken Steel"]. We really underestimated how many people would want to keep playing, so that’s probably the last time we’ll do something like that.

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Criticism #3: V.A.T.S. is boring once you’re accurate enough to head shot everyone

Howard: Depends on what you find entertaining. I like to blow people’s heads off, so, well, it never got old for me. I agree that the ‘to hit chance’ for head shots is probably too high.

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norrie rugger · 26-01-2009 07:08PM

i think that i am spoiled by grand theft auto but i really wish that there were more songs on the radio

ShiverinEskimo · 26-01-2009 08:02PM

I guess the idea is that they'd have lost an awful lot of whatever music was available when the bombs dropped.

You can always turn the radio off too and listen to the sounds of the wasteland...

pablomakaveli · 26-01-2009 08:14PM

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

I guess the idea is that they'd have lost an awful lot of whatever music was available when the bombs dropped.

You can always turn the radio off too and listen to the sounds of the wasteland...

Or the sound of a Raiders head being seperated from the shoulders caused by a single shot from a hunting rifle from a few hundred yards.:cool:

(My personal favourite by the way.:D)

DarkJager · 26-01-2009 08:33PM

I love the sound when you cut someones head off with the combat knife

I could just spend hours dismembering the residents of tenpenny tower in their bathtubs....

Running Bing · 26-01-2009 09:22PM

Just started playing this.

I was looking very forward to it but I must say Im finding it hard to get into. Im just leaving the town of megaton and Ive got barely any ammo or health packs and things keep bloody attacking me and killing me.

Is it better to just run away or stand toe to toe and fight?

Also everything seems very complicated at the moment, but I suppose thats the nature of the beast......its been a long time since I played an RPG:p

DarkJager · 26-01-2009 09:41PM

Babybing wrote: »

Just started playing this.

I was looking very forward to it but I must say Im finding it hard to get into. Im just leaving the town of megaton and Ive got barely any ammo or health packs and things keep bloody attacking me and killing me.

Is it better to just run away or stand toe to toe and fight?

Also everything seems very complicated at the moment, but I suppose thats the nature of the beast......its been a long time since I played an RPG:p

Its quite a deep game (with tons of stats and skills to adjust to however you want to play it) so you will need to put in some good solid hours of play to get the most out of it. However, you will still be finding new things in the game about a month from now so just take your time and enjoy it.

As for getting killed, you are still quite early in the game so obviously don't have access to good quality weapons or armor yet. Maybe try turning down the difficulty a notch in the options while you're getting used to it? You'll also discover while you play it that certain enemies have certain weakspots that will make them a lot easier to kill (e.g aiming for the face of a mirelurk rather than the body).

Fallout 3

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