Daily Mail article On Ireland - Food For Thought!

Nodin · 23-01-2009 03:16PM

We should really just find out where she lives, and run up and down past her front windows whens shes there, flailing limbs spasmodically and dragging legs etc.

K-9 · 23-01-2009 03:17PM

Nodin wrote: »

We should really just find out where she lives, and run up and down past her front windows whens shes there, flailing limbs spasmodically and dragging legs etc.

Awwwhhhhh

Genghiz Cohen · 23-01-2009 03:17PM

Some nice fiction to start my day, thanks OP.

maxwell smart · 23-01-2009 03:19PM

The Mail is well know for both its anti-Irish stance and its anti-Europe stance. Mary Ellen is some sort of half Irish half Yank with the strange idea that she knows the Irish "condition".

I remember hearing her on the radio giving out about President Mary McAleese, saying that as she was from the North she British and should not be the President of the Republic

I often wonder about people like her who write for newspapers and appear on radio and TV......do they actually believe the crap they spout? Or is it "just a job"???

asdasd · 23-01-2009 03:21PM

Iceland mismanaged theirs by not joining it. How we and them fecked our economies has nothing to do with the Euro.

With real interest rates being negative for the last 7 years the Irish consumer had a huge incentive to borrow, and none to save. Result: misery.

Biggins · 23-01-2009 03:21PM

monosharp wrote: »

At least if you go to somewhere like the states they have a decent police force and at least when corruption sees the light of day it actually matters! Here the more corrupt a politician is, the more popular he is.

I agree with most of your points but just the last one I'd like to point out that their police is open too for abuse - i.e. the Scientology crowd alone hiring them to do goon work very often but there is loads of other instances...

As for politicians there, the more famous they get, the more there get away with too! Look at Kennedy for example having an affair with M. Monroe then passing her along to his brother, Clinton getting "Monica jobs" done in the cupboard, the list goes on and not just with the presidents alone...

It all matters in the states, for a day or two, week or two... then they just get out the PR machine!

deadhead13 · 23-01-2009 03:22PM

Best thing to do to Mary Ellen Synon is just ignore her and she'll disappear up her own backside.

Squiggle · 23-01-2009 03:23PM

Dudess wrote: »

Well the Times did employ another professional sh1t-stirrer - Kevin Myers.

Dudess wrote: »

Mary Ellen Synon is a professional controversialist - she is paid to outrage people, so don't get outraged. The language she uses is so laughably OTT it couldn't be more obvious that she's just stirring up sh1t.

+10000000000000 Wouldn't read stuff from either of the two of them tbh.

K-9 · 23-01-2009 03:26PM

asdasd wrote: »

With real interest rates being negative for the last 7 years the Irish consumer had a huge incentive to borrow, and none to save. Result: misery.

YEP, sure €10,000 credit limits are targets on Credit Cards and I must have that 08 4*4.

Then when things go tits up, blame the Govt. who forced me to sign the agreement.

Wreck · 23-01-2009 04:21PM

Mary Ellen Synon is just a nut job with a newspaper column tbh. Her views and opinions are basically worthless. Ireland and the condition we are in is a fcucking disgrace, but her explanations are so far removed from reality it's laughable.

ejmaztec · 23-01-2009 04:30PM

A newspaper that specialises in criticising 85 year-old celebrities for having sagging tits and fat arses is best left ignored.

Dudess · 23-01-2009 04:32PM

Or else it gloats at younger, beautiful celebrities (specifically women) if they've a bit of sagginess, cellulite etc... just to make the self-hating female readers feel that bit better about themselves.

DublinWriter wrote: »

her disgraceful comments regarding the Special Olympics

To be honest, what I was getting from that piece wasn't "oh disabled people are so hideous, they shouldn't be allowed take part in spectator sports"... it seemed more like she was saying they're put on display for our entertainment like circus freaks, they're patronised with this notion that they're as capable as able-bodied/non-disabled people, they're effectively further marginalised and it just reinforces the notion of them as being "abnormal".
Not saying I agree with that, and generally I think she's a serious sh1t-stirrer, but I do think that's an example of a case where she was misunderstood and people preferred to take things at face value and get outraged ("oh she's insulting and belittling disabled people!") rather than reading a little further into things.

Fozzie Bear · 23-01-2009 04:37PM

Whats the problem with this? It is 100% correct in my eyes. Granted it's in the Daily Oirish Mail (English version) and written by a bitter ould hag but can anyone actually disprove the points she has made?

"Ireland Co Ltd is no longer a going concern. All that was built up has been squandered by an immoral and lazy Government, by a corrupt business class."

Spot on. The Celtic Tiger was hunted down, slaughtered and skinned by the bloated fat developers, builders, estate agents and banks of this country. They were helped in this by their lobby groups like the CFI, corrupt councilors, the FF tent at the Galway races etc and peoples greed, stupidity and unwillingness to listen to those who voiced concern and advocated caution such as David McWilliams.

"This is a sick, diseased, wretched and immoral corner of Europe."

Charlie Haughey. Padraig Flynn. Beverly Cooper Flynn. Bertie Ahern. Liam Lawlor. Sean Fitzpatrick. Frank Dunlop. Ray Burke. George Redmond. Michael Lowry. Tom Gilmartin and no doubt the countless more names that have yet to float to the surface of our little scum cover stagnant pond in which lies a tigers carcass......

" Self-government for the Irish is merely an excuse to thieve, to lie, to indulge in corruption, to destroy everything that is precious and beautiful."

Refer to list of names above. In fact just substitute the entire FF party instead.

"The most enchanting landscapes in Ireland have been covered in bungalows."

Take a drive out into any once rural country side and look at all the empty holiday homes. Or the countless sprawling housing estates in many cases left unfinished with management companies in charge of them charging huge maintenance fees to already financially stretched families with negative equitity and years of struggle ahead.

"This is a land without any values."

We have values it's just that the government and those in charge don't give a toss for them and we the public up until now did not give a toss either as long as we had the fancy house, 4x4 and 2 or 3 holidays a year.

Dudess · 23-01-2009 04:41PM

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Whats the problem with this? It is 100% correct in my eyes. Granted it's in the Daily Oirish Mail (English version) and written by a bitter ould hag but can anyone actually disprove the points she has made?

The problem is, Ireland is virtually spotless compared to some countries.

"This is a sick, diseased, wretched and immoral corner of Europe."

Charlie Haughey. Padraig Flynn. Beverly Cooper Flynn. Bertie Ahern. Liam Lawlor. Sean Fitzpatrick. Frank Dunlop. Ray Burke. George Redmond. Michael Lowry. Tom Gilmartin and no doubt the countless more names that have yet to float to the surface of our little scum cover stagnant pond in which lies a tigers carcass......

Italy - makes Ireland look as pure as snow.

"The most enchanting landscapes in Ireland have been covered in bungalows."

Take a drive out into any once rural country side and look at all the empty holiday homes. Or the countless sprawling housing estates in many cases left unfinished with management companies in charge of them charging huge maintenance fees.

To a limited extent. Hardly the case in the rural midlands. A better example of nearly every bit of green being concreted over - England.

"This is a land without any values."
We have values it's just that the government and those in charge don't give a toss for them and we the public up until now did not give a toss either as long as we had the fancy house, 4x4 and 2 or 3 holidays a year.

I refuse to be held accountable for my fellow Irishmen/women simply because I share the same nationality as them. I wish people would stop thinking along those lines.

asdasd · 23-01-2009 04:41PM

Refer to list of names above. In fact just substitute the entire FF party instead.

I agree with the sentiment to a certain extent but in terms of damage Sean Fitzpatick leaves everybody else in the dust - and I think there is more of that to come from non-political actors in Ireland : bankers, solicitors ( wasnt there a solicitor involved in some property scam?), developers etc. Not all are politicans, not all in FF.

asdasd · 23-01-2009 04:44PM

A better example of nearly every bit of green being concreted over - England.

Not true. Remember the UK has 60 million people which is more people than Canada, Australia, and New Zealand combined but it does look rural in it's rural areas - the cotswolds are totally protected, and Cornwall has very few bungalows.

In part this is because the countryside in England, historically richer, is snobby anyway. Not building more housing preserves the exclusivity.

vandermeyde · 23-01-2009 04:45PM

" Self-government for the Irish is merely an excuse to thieve, to lie, to indulge in corruption, to destroy everything that is precious and beautiful."

Maybe we should let the Brits have a go, they'd probably do a much better job :rolleyes:

Dudess · 23-01-2009 04:47PM

Actually when someone ****s up in Britain and gets caught, they resign immediately.

Dempsey · 23-01-2009 04:50PM

I know the Mail is not the best reporting in the world but I came across a writers views in it on Ireland.
Its certainly interesting reading - if not an eye opener!

One quote!

'Ireland Co Ltd is no longer a going concern. All that was built up has been squandered by an immoral and lazy Government, by a corrupt business class. This is a sick, diseased, wretched and immoral corner of Europe. Self-government for the Irish is merely an excuse to thieve, to lie, to indulge in corruption, to destroy everything that is precious and beautiful. The most enchanting landscapes in Ireland have been covered in bungalows. This is a land without any values.'

Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...eed--Euro.html

I DON'T agree with a lot of her opinions. Right now with the above quote in my mind, I want to slap her for SOME of her too broad generalisations!

The bolded is OTT but she has a valid point about the government and the business class of Ireland. National treasures have been turned into roads and houses instead of being protected.

Alot of greed and indifference happened in the celtic tiger era when we should have been protecting things in the national interest

Dudess · 23-01-2009 04:52PM

But she's so inconsistent that she'd also be whingeing about the Hill of Tara protestors for standing in the way of progress - and I'm very sure she has done. So really, she is not to be paid any heed to.

BnA · 23-01-2009 04:56PM

Daily Mail.... Food for thought..... I think not...

Daily Mail.... Liner for Dog Basket.... Yes

grumpytrousers · 23-01-2009 05:02PM

y'all appear to be taking this out of context. The OPs posting is NOT Synons opinion.

here's the last few paragraphs from her article, lifted from the mail

Here is just part of what he wrote: 'You live in Brussels, so you don't see the empty restaurants, the deserted shopping centres, the departing Poles. You don't catch the fear in people's voices.

'Ireland Co Ltd is no longer a going concern. All that was built up has been squandered by an immoral and lazy Government, by a corrupt business class. This is a sick, diseased, wretched and immoral corner of Europe. Self-government for the Irish is merely an excuse to thieve, to lie, to indulge in corruption, to destroy everything that is precious and beautiful. The most enchanting landscapes in Ireland have been covered in bungalows. This is a land without any values.'

Look again at Britain, or at least what's left of it. And be grateful.

See that? Here is what HE wrote. She's quoting somebody else. There's a single quote mark before 'Ireland Co Ltd' and another at the end of the paragraph.

I'm not saying she ain't a sh*t stirrer, but that comment apparantly is from an email she recieved thru her blog.

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dSTAR · 23-01-2009 05:18PM

Biggins ~ good job in highlighting this obviously uneducated, racist tabloid trash.

Seems nothing ever changes.

For those of you playing at home Google 'Daily Mail and anti Irish' to see this newspapers track record.

2tel1 · 23-01-2009 06:26PM

togster wrote: »

What she says os kinda true though even if she is a brit

She's actually Irish American. Studied in Dublin. She seems totally insane...like all daily mail journalists

Agamemnon · 23-01-2009 06:46PM

destroyer wrote: »

I use it to clean my ass since money got scarce

The Daily Wail isn't fit for wiping your hole with - I find that the cheap ink they use smears and blackens the buttocks dreadfully, leaving you looking like the badly bruised victim of an almighty ass-pounding.

CtrlSource · 23-01-2009 07:07PM

Question: Daily Mail article On Ireland - Food For Thought?

Answer: Eh, no.

Didn't need to read beyond the caption under the first photo tbh:
"Bleak times: Property developer Sean Dunne and his second wife Gayle Killilea"

Lirange · 23-01-2009 07:54PM

Andrea Roche does have nice legs though. Even if she is a bintbulb.

.boards.ie · 23-01-2009 07:54PM

Don't care who wrote it or where it appeared the sentiment of the piece rings true.

Not that anything will change because that is the Oirish way.

23-01-2009 07:55PM

Dudess wrote: »

Well the Times did employ another professional sh1t-stirrer - Kevin Myers.

aye, I read the columns each day and the sheer drivel he comes out with...

banshee_bones · 23-01-2009 08:02PM

Harsh. Way Harsh....

Daily Mail article On Ireland - Food For Thought!

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